What are the keys to being a tank on Hamidon raids?

I've been having fun over the last year or so helping out as a tank on Hamidon raids. I'm typically on the yellow aggro team either with my Stone/Stone or SD/SS tanks. But I've got a few questions still.

I understand that you need to have the taunt power with some range to it, a good amount of kb protection(10+), a self heal is helpful, and a judicious usage of Essence of the Earth, aka EoE inspies can be quite key.

On the Yellow Aggro team:
The strategy for tanks is Taunting the Antibodies at full range with one tank to each mito. Use the EoE's if necessary. Once your mito is down turn off any taunt/taunt aura's and help with the "green" team, etc. What is considered the minimal range on taunt that is "acceptable"? I would think that having +hp, +regen is important. What is the minimal hp/sec that can survive a single Antibodies' attacks? Anything else?

Hamidon Aggro:
Never done it. Want to do it. What are the keys? I would think the need for taunt, 10+ kb protection, and your standard mez protections are a good start. A team with a couple of Emps and Kins so that you can get +regen, CM/Fort? What would you want on your Hami Aggro team for your tank? What are the other keys? How much regen are you wanting to keep?

Beyond my questions is there anything else that would be helpful to know if you're a tank on a Hamidon raid as part of either the Yellow or Hami Aggro teams? What tank would you NOT want to take on a Hami raid, and why not?

For Hami, regen, regen, and then some regen.

And then get some more regen.

Never done the Hami taunt, but I've heard it's also all about Regen and Resist - WP tank, for example. I've seen an uber Stone tank build that would do well, also. EDIT: Want to clarify, I don't think an "uber" build is needed. It's just that I saw one recently on this board that would do well.

Rangle You have seen me tank Hami on my fire/fire tank, I have had either 2 or 3 emps and 1 kin to keep there fort/RA/AM up. the only kind of tank I can think of as to not to tank hami I would guess is the ones that do not have KB prot at 10+. If you have that and good emps, and a kin then you should have minimal problems tanking hami. Also on your first and/second time doing hami you might want a tank on team to help you till u are comfortable to take him on your own. If you do that make sure it is a tank that has been on hami aggro before. Yes EoEs dose help out as well. I would not put on any res on unless it helps with the KB. You just got to know where to stand so u do not interfere with the green team as well.

so a +HP/+regen willpower would do a great tank for hami ?

Can you get away with taunt at stock range for taunting the mitos or taunting hami?

Hami and Mito damage is unresisted damge, so the only toggles needed once in the goo are for mez, regen and KB/KD protection.

+Regen (and lotsa' HPs) and/or fast cycling heal. The Greens have a debuff that can knock your Regen down to 0% and keep it there for some time. Blues terrorize and the lightning slows recharge (I think that's how it works...lol!).

Taunt with the equiv of 2 level 50 IOs in Range, Taunt and Recharge (as I was told when I started my Hami training, I'm sure there is wiggle room, but this works and is a good base line). I've Fankenslotted Faust's Taunt beyond these marks. His Tuant cycles very fast, even faster SB'd). So he holds aggro well. Some raid leaders like to stand closer to Hami to keep the Threat Level up, others stay about mid way in the goo. With the slotting I've done on Faust, he can stand very close to the edge of the goo and still hold aggro (due to the fast Recharge) or I can move him in. I generally start about mid way, but will adjust positioning from round to round and even in the middle of a round depending on Mito positioning and tactical view point (if I can see what's going on or not).

KB protection of at least 10+, on my Fire Tank with Acrobatics I was constantly bounced around the Hive from Yellow Mitos so, Hami would send you further. Faust with KB of 15+ still gets bounced or KD'd if multiple Yellows hit him at the same time as Hami, or if the game thinks he's airborn...

EoEs fill in the gaps when your Heal is recharging and your regen is down, usually when your buffers are recharging or you're debuffed from mitos. EoEs are also good to pop when you first hit the goo. As Hami Tank you'll probably be taking the alpha of Hami and 2-4 Yellows depending on the speed of the Yellow Aggro Team (if they got SB'd/buffed or not and timing of insertion).

Hami Aggro team composition: (IMO) 2-3 emps (3 is much better), one Kin and you should be good. Any additional buffage is all that much better. A Dark , Bubbler or Cold can help keep KB, mez affects and Blue Mito aggro at bay or lessened, Rads can also help if the team stays close enough for AM. Cold's +HP buff/heal (?, don't recall exactly the math/stats on that one) also helps your regen numbers. Also wanted to add that Therms would work well on Hami Aggro Team too. What you're shooting for is keeping the team alive with AoE Heals, Targeted Heals and buffing to fend off the debuffs/slows/mezs from the Mitos and keeping the Taunters Regen up. I'm sure there are other sets that provide these kind of counters to the debuffing done in the goo. It's just that the Emps and Kins are the better known ones (Power Sets have been around for a long time). I need to make a list for my own use, and I'll shoot you a copy if you want Rangle.

Yellow Mitos hit for 400pts per shot about every 4-5 seconds? I don't recall right off...

Any Self Heal that boosts HPs helps with regen as well (Earth's Embrace, Dull Pain, etc...). Currently Faust's regen (unbuffed) is 40hp per sec. When I'm done with his build he should hit approx 80hp per sec. Hami delivers 500pts per shot with additional DoT of around 60ish(coudl be closer to 80...) for 4 to 6 tics (iircc-haven't been paying attention to the numbers, only my green bar, the last few raids and can't remember right off), every 3-5 seconds (timing of blasts varies a bit, usually it's 5 seconds but, he sneaks an additional one in every now and then). I have a WP Tank that will max at 110hp per sec. I'm looking forward to see how he does as a Hami Taunter (and just to give a range of Regen number on the Taunters I currently have).

All-in-all it is a team effort. I know I owe Faust's success to the players that volunteer/agree to joining the Hami Aggro team.

Let me know if you want to try your hand at lead Hami Tank and I'll let give Faust a break. (Don't worry I'll still lead the raid)

Edit: Hami's doing 522 per shot, with 80pts DoT after

Thanks for detailed response Nuclear, it certainly helps.

Has anyone successfully used either a Dark or a SD tank for Hamidon aggro? If so, how did you make it work?

The ability to fire three rounds a minute in any weather and stand to the enemy and fig...wait, sorry wrong manual.

Here's the basic breakdown:

A hami tank needs 10+ points of kb protection - if the tank has it built into his set, he's gold, otherwise 3 kb IOs or Acro with a kb IO.

Taunt.

A ranged attack helps keep aggro - Nem Staff isn't optimal, but I've seen it work simply by upping the dmg inflicted ups the Threat, but to the best of my knowledge, it doesn't transfer Gauntlet.

A semi-decent buff team of 2-3 emps and a kin. The emps spam +regen on the tank and CM on everyone, the kin spams SB on everyone.

The tank should know a spot where he's going and coordinate with the Green targeter as to which mito they're to going first. Also, if a hami tank is in a place where they're getting hit by 5 greens and not moving (gently) to knock that number down, then you need a backup tank. Also the tank really shouldn't run like a trackstar around in the goo - pick a good spot (not under a green) and stay there. Your support team will not follow you around, figuring it's better to let you die and a competent tank replace you.

For my DA, it was all of the above, except I was probably closer to the Hami than any other tank I use, because its self-heal is an AoE attack.

As for shield Tank, I know a friend on freedom has done it with his SD tank, and I will ask him about it for you when I see him rangle.

hami agro team needs lots of emps and 1 kin, just stay put and let emps RA u and kin SB u. need 1 range and taunt power. should only need 1 eoe per bloom. also must have 11+ KB resist.

hami raid tonight at 10pm est on freedom. if u want i will show u how to tank it.(7/3)

I've seen lots of talk about Regen Aura for the Regen boost for the main tank, but none about Adrenaline Boost. It gives same amount of Regen as the Aura.

When are the Hami raids held on Freedom? It's been years since I have been on one. Returning player here.