So I was bored and checking the market...


AgentMountaineer

 

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that is, you've accepted that you aren't going to get the shinies since you don't want to do the irritating things, and you're OK with that. Go you.
If only more players were like that..

I laughed at this until I thought that there were equally deluded people in the real world insisting the same thing. This is a game suffering does not equal "ENTITLEMENT", either here or in the real world. To insist that you should have to participate in portions of the game that are unenjoyable, or just forgo large parts of the game is just plain wrong.

Their response to being irritated by something in the game is as you might expect a little different. Go take a look at the hating the new interface thread for the whinefest.


 

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I did that about a year ago, I believe, and the availability of recipes in general seems to have gone down a great deal since then.
Anything less than level 50, yes.
Supply at level 50 is as vibrant as ever.

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And rising further out of reach - last time I was seriously looking into IOs I was shocked by prices of 10-20 million coupled with rare salvage prices of 1-2 million, now I look at the market and see those recipes going for 60 million+ (when available at all) and the salvage sometimes rising up to 7 million or higher. It's daunting to get into.
Keep in mind that the BUY NAO! prices you're using to make your judgement are substantially higher than what a patient bidder would expect to pay.


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And I find the crafting system to be dull, so I would only be crafting recipes that I'd be personally using.
Why does crafting something you will personally slot rate higher on the entertainment scale than crafting something you can get a big pile of inf for which you can use to buy things to personally slot?

Both lead to the same goal and the second option will get you there much faster.


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Keep in mind that the BUY NAO! prices you're using to make your judgement are substantially higher than what a patient bidder would expect to pay.
The purchase history is all I have to go on for making potentially viable bids. Making low shots in the dark that may never hit their mark and waiting weeks on end to get lucky doesn't appeal to me.

Also, if I'm buying a recipe/salvage it's because I want/need it right then. If I put it off for a week or more, there's a good chance I'll forget exactly what I was up to.

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Why does crafting something you will personally slot rate higher on the entertainment scale than crafting something you can get a big pile of inf for which you can use to buy things to personally slot?

Both lead to the same goal and the second option will get you there much faster.
The former means only crafting something once in order to have the enhancement I want. It's direct, simple, and already entails more time spent dealing with the Market and Crafting than I'd like. If IOs - both basic and sets - weren't so much more desirable to me than the standard enhancements I might not touch the Market or Crafting at all.


Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound

 

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The purchase history is all I have to go on for making potentially viable bids. Making low shots in the dark that may never hit their mark and waiting weeks on end to get lucky doesn't appeal to me.
(in best oily merchant voice)

Excellent, Sir!

For a customer of discerning tastes such as yourself, clearly quality and
timeliness are of paramount importance.

Why indeed should you be made to suffer in long lines of patient, low-ball
bids posted by the masses of poor, under-financed players?

A player of your calibre, influence and wealth deserves only the best!

At FourSpeed Warez, PLLC, we specialize in the finest quality of enhancements
for the elite buyer. Our premier pricing strategies ensure that stock is always
available for our favorite customers, such as yourself, and we'll do our very best
to accomodate any specialty enhancement needs you might have.

By all means, browse the catalog, and if there's anything you need at all,
don't hesitate to ask - FourSpeed Warez exists to serve your needs and we
welcome your business.


Cheers,
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PS> While that's totally tongue-in-cheek of course, (and hopefully understood
as humour), it is the sentence I quoted that makes you my favorite customer (truly).
That's not sarcasm or a knock whatsoever at your approach. You are the guys that
allow us marketeers to achieve fine profit margins, and I'm ecstatic to sell to you
(and 500 or more of your favorite like-minded friends).

Because I typically list below top 5 prices (to get the sale), patient bid-creepers,
who end-up buying near my list price kill my margins. Guys who simply look at the
last 5 sales and bid that are exactly the players I *want* to sell to... So, Thanks!
You *are* my favorite type of customer.


I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.

 

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The purchase history is all I have to go on for making potentially viable bids.
I have the same evidence in hand and yet manage to consistently pay much less than what things are 'worth' when the mood strikes me.

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Making low shots in the dark that may never hit their mark and waiting weeks on end to get lucky doesn't appeal to me.
Thinking a little bit about what to bid is faster and more efficient than taking shots in the dark and then watching them with puppy eyes for 'weeks on end' instead of revising them when it's obvious you were off the mark.


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The former means only crafting something once in order to have the enhancement I want. It's direct, simple, and already entails more time spent dealing with the Market and Crafting than I'd like. If IOs - both basic and sets - weren't so much more desirable to me than the standard enhancements I might not touch the Market or Crafting at all.
making a pile of inf so huge that the price of stuff effectively doesn't matter is much easier than kitting out a character by waiting around for stuff you want to drop.

Fury has made nearly 500 million inf in a few days using tactics available to anyone. I make 100 million every time I step into the MA building. All from taking a few minutes to craft drops. However little you enjoy the process it's clearly the most efficient way to get what you want.


*shrug*


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My City Was Gone

 

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making a pile of inf so huge that the price of stuff effectively doesn't matter is much easier than kitting out a character by waiting around for stuff you want to drop.

Fury has made nearly 500 million inf in a few days using tactics available to anyone. I make 100 million every time I step into the MA building. All from taking a few minutes to craft drops. However little you enjoy the process it's clearly the most efficient way to get what you want.
I'm sure it is unfortunately the most efficient way, but I find the process so mind-numbingly dull that I can't bring myself to delve into it to that extent. If I were interested in efficiency I probably wouldn't be buying crafted basic IOs when I could be crafting them myself.


Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound

 

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Fury's process is blueside. Using about the same tactics does not yield quite the same results redside. Redside has such a massive glut of AE recipes and enh it is not even remotely funny. And if you are using that to pick up other related content to flip from recipe to enh to cash, it simply does not function quite as well. I've tested both sides, and blueside is much much more functional a way to pull inf out of the market into your pocket its not even funny.


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Fury's process is blueside. Using about the same tactics does not yield quite the same results redside. Redside has such a massive glut of AE recipes and enh it is not even remotely funny. And if you are using that to pick up other related content to flip from recipe to enh to cash, it simply does not function quite as well. I've tested both sides, and blueside is much much more functional a way to pull inf out of the market into your pocket its not even funny.
That might be true if Fury's process only involves AE recipes. It doesn't. I regularly bid on and win lowball bids of a number recipes. Given the limited time I have to play, I'd run out of stock quickly if I just used AE generated recipes. In fact, though I haven't calculated to what percentage, recipes I bought off the market represents a significant portion of my earnings.

Blue side does allow you to accumulate wealth faster. That I won't argue with and it's due to volume and traffic. However, the "process" works for both sides. I'm actually tempted to demonstrate this as well on a villain but given the merger, this will might be a stillborn experiment from the get-go.

I will say that I've earned billions on both sides, and the only thing that I do differently is the type of recipes I invest in.