Okay, I need an answer...
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BigFish,
Posted on: 2010-06-06 22:49 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Many names used by the developers are blocked off by the developers.
In this case, you are querying specific origins in the game, as well as potential server names.
As far as I'm aware, the developers have made public the criteria for the list of names that they have blocked out for their use and for the game's internal use.
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But they're just the name of the origins. Why can't others use them as a name of a hero/villain?|
Originally Posted by je_saist
Many names used by the developers are blocked off by the developers.
In this case, you are querying specific origins in the game, as well as potential server names. As far as I'm aware, the developers have made public the criteria for the list of names that they have blocked out for their use and for the game's internal use. |
It just seems to be limiting on names for toons, when I don't see the reason to. Or is it a technical reason?
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Magik (Illyana Nikolievna Rasputina - typically anglicized to Rasputin) is a Marvel Comics character, associated with the X-Men. She is the younger sister of the Russian X-Man Colossus.|
Originally Posted by BrandX
...now I'm sure SOMEONE would of snatched up these names awhile ago. But there I was trying to find a name that fit another players toon. So, I thought...hmmm
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Tho I admit I can't think of a reason the other origins are unavailable.
I'd bet this just falls under "we reserve that for us, not you". It may not make sense to us, but I'll bet there's an underlying software reason somewhere.
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I had thought of this. But that starts with a K. And Magic is so broadterm, I doubt it could be an issue.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Magik (Illyana Nikolievna Rasputina - typically anglicized to Rasputin) is a Marvel Comics character, associated with the X-Men. She is the younger sister of the Russian X-Man Colossus.
Tho I admit I can't think of a reason the other origins are unavailable. |
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I can't help wondering if, around the time GR started development, some unsuspecting player found the character they'd named Maelstrom was suddenly generic'd 
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Even if that happened, it would be reversed. I2 saw a player named Frostfire lose his name, only to have it reinstated on appeal because he got it first.
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Originally Posted by NightshadeLegree
I can't help wondering if, around the time GR started development, some unsuspecting player found the character they'd named Maelstrom was suddenly generic'd
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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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I can't name a character Thor either, even though Marvel does NOT have the name copyrighted. They have the character's appearance trademarked, but they can not copyright the name due to it having been in public domain for, oh, 1,200 years or so. |
Originally Posted by BrandX
I had thought of this. But that starts with a K. And Magic is so broadterm, I doubt it could be an issue.
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But when I tried to create Thor as an AE character (I wrote a story about Ragnarok happening in Paraon City), it came up as unavailable because of it's association with Marvel Comics, even though they have zero claim on the name.
Oddly enough, Odin, Loki, Heimdall, Tyr, Baldur, and a number of other Norse gods were available, even though Marvel has versions of all of them.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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I assume it just came up as unavailable. They don't tell you why, do they?|
ClawsandEffect twitches: But when I tried to create Thor as an AE character (I wrote a story about Ragnarok happening in Paraon City), it came up as unavailable because of it's association with Marvel Comics, even though they have zero claim on the name. |
Besides, Thor has a gajillion names, just use one of those others.
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But that has the same spelling.|
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
I can't name a character Thor either, even though Marvel does NOT have the name copyrighted. They have the character's appearance trademarked, but they can not copyright the name due to it having been in public domain for, oh, 1,200 years or so.
But when I tried to create Thor as an AE character (I wrote a story about Ragnarok happening in Paraon City), it came up as unavailable because of it's association with Marvel Comics, even though they have zero claim on the name. Oddly enough, Odin, Loki, Heimdall, Tyr, Baldur, and a number of other Norse gods were available, even though Marvel has versions of all of them. |
Magic and Magik are two different spellings.
You can't make Thor. But you could make Thur or Thore.
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...or a Donar or Thunar
any halfway Germanic tribe LOVED that guy!
There is no such thing as an "innocent bystander"
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Most of the alternately spelled names that have been genericced over the years have probably been blocked so no one else uses them after they get modsmacked. Would probably get annoying to keep having to generic "Ironman" and "Iron-Man" over and over, so they most likely block the name after they nuke it for that reason alone. |
Originally Posted by BrandX
But that has the same spelling.
Magic and Magik are two different spellings. You can't make Thor. But you could make Thur or Thore. |
Also, when blocking a copyrighted name, wouldn't it make sense to block the most obvious alternate spelling as well? Illyana Rasputin is "Magik" in the Marvel universe. What is the FIRST name someone trying to make her is going to try when they find out Magik is blocked?
Actually, the fact that the other origin names are blocked as well is probably more important than the spelling of one particular word.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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The point here is, the name "Thor" is untrademarkable for general purposes, as it's an old Norse God. Marvel can only trademark it as a comic title (see the "Capt. Marvel/Shazam debacle"), not as a name (except when the name refers specifically to the Marvel Thor combined with his visual appearance).|
ClawsandEffect missed it: Most of the alternately spelled names that have been genericced over the years have probably been blocked so no one else uses them after they get modsmacked. Would probably get annoying to keep having to generic "Ironman" and "Iron-Man" over and over, so they most likely block the name after they nuke it for that reason alone. |
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I'm wondering, especially since none of the others of the Norse Gods are blocked, if maybe the devs were saving it for themselves at one point. I mean, there is a Heracles in the game.
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What I was referring to was the possibilty that someone actually created Illyana Rasputin in-game and named her "Magic" because the actual spelling of her name was blocked. In which case, if they got reported and genericced, the spelling "Magic" would end up blocked as well. |
Originally Posted by Decorum
No, as trademarked names are very spelling specific.
I'm wondering, especially since none of the others of the Norse Gods are blocked, if maybe the devs were saving it for themselves at one point. I mean, there is a Heracles in the game. |
I can't imagine they just leave a name open to be used again after they generic it. It just doesn't make sense from a workload standpoint. Having to generic the exact same name over and over would get old really fast.
Still think the fact that the other origin names are blocked as well is more relevant than a particular spelling of a Marvel character's name.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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Because "Magik" isn't "Magic", from this standpoint. "Magic" isn't an alternate spelling of "Magik" as a name, but an entirely separate already existing word. It isn't "Wolferine".|
ClawsandEffect wants specific: What I was referring to was the possibilty that someone actually created Illyana Rasputin in-game and named her "Magic" because the actual spelling of her name was blocked. In which case, if they got reported and genericced, the spelling "Magic" would end up blocked as well. I can't imagine they just leave a name open to be used again after they generic it. |
It's more likely they just made it so you don't use the names of the powers, origins, archetypes or servers that they already did.
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BigFish has it right: ...or a Donar or Thunar any halfway Germanic tribe LOVED that guy! |
Anyone who wants feel free to report it. I don't have the slightest fear of being genericed there.
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...now I'm sure SOMEONE would've snatched up these names awhile ago. But there I was trying to find a name that fit another players toon. So, I thought...hmmm
Magic
.../friend -ed it, and low and behold no one is using the name! I figure what a break. Someone must've just released it.
Double check in the new character screen...UNAVAILABLE!
WHAT THE?!
So I go in and check around, and the name isn't taken by anyone.
And I'm trying to think...why would this be unavailable?
So, I do some more searching...ALL THE ORIGIN names are unavailable!
Magic, Science, Mutation, Technology, Natural AND even Mutant.
Okay, why were these names made unavilable? Sure, if they were available, someone would of beaten me to them for sure. But here are 6 names, I can't for the life of me figure out why they would be unavailable.
Is it a tech issue?
Even Valiant is unavailable.
[edited for rep worthy late night spelling/sentence structure mistakes!]
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