City of Heroes Won't Work with Radeon 7800
By
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Posted on: 2010-06-06 09:26 in Player Questions
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Originally Posted by Mayhem
Alright, I have a Radeon 7800 video card and its a damn well good one. It works for almost every computer game I have except for City of Heroes. When I start up City of Heroes it pops up a box saying "Your card or Driver doesn't support GL_ARB_Multitexture."
Do I need to have a certain setting or something? I the video card just flat out cant play City of Heroes? I give rep if you help  |
ATi never released a Radeon 7800 card.
I think you mean the Mobility FireGL 7800: http://ati.amd.com/products/mobilityfgl7800/index.html
As I expected from the naming schema, this was based off of the Radeon 7500 graphics card: http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=98&pgno=1
The last driver to support these cards was the Catalyst 6.11 release: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownloa...rer300-xp.aspx ... on Nov. 15, 2006
That was before the Catalyst OpenGL rewrite that arrived in 2007, which means your card only runs an OpenGL driver that actually makes Nvidia's driver sets look good.
Unfortantly, this means that CoH is probably not ever going to work on your card again, and it's not likely that the developers will ever implement a fix to make your card playable.
The Radeon 7000 series, and thus the Mobility FireGL 7800, was never supported to begin with.
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There is one trick you could try though. From luminous martini: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=220618
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1. right click on CoH shortcut 2. click on properties 3.click on shortcut tab at top 4. go to target window "C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CohUpdater.exe" 5. after the last " press space once 6. enter the following code exactly -useTexEnvCombine 7. click on apply then ok 8. right click on CoH then click run as admin. |
Which may... or may not work.
Another thing to try, if you have the inclination, is to use modded drivers and see if that helps.
I've done this using LaptopVideo2Go.com for my older Dell D800 lappy and it at least gets me into the game. Other issues prevent anything worthwhile being done unless I run with all settings at lowest range, but that's caused by the laptop's other hardware.
Your laptop may find itself in the same situation after all, but you won't know if you don't try, right? 
HardwareHeaven.com does the same thing for ATI cards.
I'm not going to propose the OmegaDrivers since they don't allow the use of recent drivers modded for older cards. The 7000 series cards were dropped from the Catalyst 6.6 drivers and up.
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Originally Posted by Stalemate
Another thing to try, if you have the inclination, is to use modded drivers and see if that helps.
I've done this using LaptopVideo2Go.com for my older Dell D800 lappy and it at least gets me into the game. Other issues prevent anything worthwhile being done unless I run with all settings at lowest range, but that's caused by the laptop's other hardware. Your laptop may find itself in the same situation after all, but you won't know if you don't try, right? HardwareHeaven.com does the same thing for ATI cards. I'm not going to propose the OmegaDrivers since they don't allow the use of recent drivers modded for older cards. The 7000 series cards were dropped from the Catalyst 6.6 drivers and up. |
A: this card was never actually supported in the pre-Catalyst release. Back then ATi had seperate drivers for FireGL and Radeon cards.
B: this card was never actually supported by the game: The graphics engine introduced in I17 knocked out support for older graphics chips. The game is making calls that are expected in levels of OpenGL that the original Radeon series isn't capable of making, nor was there ever a software driver written to handle non-gpu calls (as there is with the Intel cards with similar levels of support).
Well, don't give up hope yet Mayhem. I was able to get an ATI Xpress 200 on board video running with COH last night, with Win 7 Ult (64).
It took a lot of searching for the right Driver, but I got it working. I'm almost positive your card came out later than the Onboard one I have did.
Mind you, You might have to turn everything waaay down, But at least you can get on.
Stephen
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Originally Posted by Stephen
Well, don't give up hope yet Mayhem. I was able to get an ATI Xpress 200 on board video running with COH last night, with Win 7 Ult (64).
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That's part of the DX9 series of cards that ATi retired in 2009.
I'm actually amazed that you got the the 9-3 Vista driver to install and run under Win7's DX11 platform. Most of the time the Dx11 platform updates cause problems with DX9 cards. Makes me think you are pressing a software rendering mode rather than a hardware accelerated mode.
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The Mobility 7800 was a "workstation" version of the 7500.
The Radeon 7500 launched in 2001 / 2002
The x300 launched in 2004, as well as the Xpress 200.
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Mind you, You might have to turn everything waaay down, But at least you can get on. Stephen |
Based off a DX7 chipset. Retired in 2006. Was not supported to begin with.
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let me make this a little bit more clearer.
I've got a Radeon 7500 AIW
City. Of. Heroes. Is. Not. Compatible. With. The. Original. Radeon. Cards.
This probably includes all variations of the original Radeon series, which includes the 7800.
I can't say that the 7800 won't work at all because:
- A: I don't actually have one
- B: it wasn't ever supported in the original ATi consumer driver release to begin with
- C: it has it's own driver update schedule as part of the FireGL line, so while ATi might have canned the non-commercial chip, the laptop vendor would have been free to continue producing their own updates, and the FireGL team could have also written further updates. Granted, no further updates EXIST... but still.
- D: it was never supported in the unified Catalyst / FireGL driver releases.
My apologies then. I missed the points you had made, as I only skimmed the article.
Ok, so it won't work.
Stephen
PS, Here is what the Catalyst says, Have no clue if it's software or hardware mode.
Driver Packaging Version 8.593.100-100210a-095951E-ATI
Catalyst™ Version 10.2
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 8.01.01.882
2D Driver File Path /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/CLASS/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0000
Direct3D Version 8.14.10.0647
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.8545
Catalyst™ Control Center Version 2010.0210.2339.42455
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Like I said, sorry I missed what you wrote earlier.
Modded drivers worked like a charm on Dell Latitude D610 Radeon x300 Mobility (64mb).
The game runs beautifully with a 1 gig ram chip (already had 512 internal) for a total of 1.5 gig ram.
So, no dice for Radeon 7800, but a smash hit for Radeon x300!
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Alright, I have a Radeon 7800 video card and its a damn well good one. It works for almost every computer game I have except for City of Heroes. When I start up City of Heroes it pops up a box saying "Your card or Driver doesn't support GL_ARB_Multitexture."
Do I need to have a certain setting or something? I the video card just flat out cant play City of Heroes?
I give rep if you help