Best Way to get CoV recipes!?


Aggelakis

 

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Hey everyone.
I love this game, but generally end up playing hero side more often than villain side.. the big problem is when I get to that milestone of level 32 I usually go out and try to find some level 35 IOs and start the IO process..

On hero side it's not usually too big a problem (well it's been worse since AE started I guess..) but on villain side it is just flat out horrible.

I don't earn enough merits to piece together my sets at a reasonable rate and the market for everything always seems to have zero in stock..

Is there some other way to find these recipes? I have so many villains that stall around level 32 because I can't find the IO sets i'm looking for..


50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster

 

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For me, I do the following:
1) Plan ahead and wait. For example, you want a pet set for a MM. I place bids with one toon (my crafter or other that I am not currently playing) and then go off with the new MM toon. For the most part but not always, in the time it took me to level to a certain point, I have the recipes/IOs (always remember to check recipes and crafted IOs) I have bid for. With emailing, it has made this much easier.

2) Decide on set bonus vs. IO bonus. It would be nice to have a lvl40 bonus, but if it means giving up the set bonus, I will go with a lvl30 or lvl25 or whatever is available. And like in #1, I can place bids and wait.

3) Craft the ones I get as drops. My corruptors don't really use melee IOs. But my new brute does. If it is a set I know I will want, I will craft and place in SG bin until ready.


 

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Yeah that's kinda what I figure'd I'd have to do.
Crap news is that on this particular server this is my only vill thus far and my sg has one of those, "base level characters can't take anything from the Sg bin."

whoopie...
I wish we could have a "bank" for our own account or something.


50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster

 

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Originally Posted by PennyPA View Post
For me, I do the following:
1) Plan ahead and wait. For example, you want a pet set for a MM. I place bids with one toon (my crafter or other that I am not currently playing) and then go off with the new MM toon. For the most part but not always, in the time it took me to level to a certain point, I have the recipes/IOs (always remember to check recipes and crafted IOs) I have bid for. With emailing, it has made this much easier.

2) Decide on set bonus vs. IO bonus. It would be nice to have a lvl40 bonus, but if it means giving up the set bonus, I will go with a lvl30 or lvl25 or whatever is available. And like in #1, I can place bids and wait.

3) Craft the ones I get as drops. My corruptors don't really use melee IOs. But my new brute does. If it is a set I know I will want, I will craft and place in SG bin until ready.
^^ this. and also consider turning off xp for a bit and running some AE stuff to get tickets and doing random rolls.


 

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I wish we could have a "bank" for our own account or something.
we do. it is called email. came about with i17.


 

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Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint View Post
^^ this. and also consider turning off xp for a bit and running some AE stuff to get tickets and doing random rolls.
Does turning off xp get you more tickets for AE?
That may very well be a possibility.. Is there some kind of breakdown somewhere about what sets are associated with what roll levels?
For example my mastermind isn't looking for LOTG or anything.. I'm simply looking for some blood mandates.. So is that a bronze silver or gold roll?

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Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint View Post
we do. it is called email. came about with i17.
Wow..
That's what I get for not playing coh/v for a month or two.. I had no idea they added such things...
Can you transfer from server to server too?
That's pretty great!


50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster

 

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Originally Posted by JusticeisServed View Post
Yeah that's kinda what I figure'd I'd have to do.
Crap news is that on this particular server this is my only vill thus far and my sg has one of those, "base level characters can't take anything from the Sg bin."

whoopie...
I wish we could have a "bank" for our own account or something.
With the ability to email items to any of your characters on your account, we effectively have account level banks. Create an SG for one of your villains and slog through enough levels to get the prestige to put an enhancement table in it. Now you have your account wide IO bank, at least for villains.

If you have enough free character slots on the server, you can get a friend to invite your alts to get the free prestige for the initial SG members. That can drastically reduce the time needed to get enough prestige for getting the bin.


 

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You can transfer things via E-mail cross server. Things like Recipes, Salvage, and enhancements (Someone correct me if I'm wrong). The only limitation is that heroes can't give to villains and vice-versa.


Arc ID: 348998 - Becoming a villain
Arc ID: 373341 - To Save a Hero

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Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint View Post
we do. it is called email. came about with i17.
Are you saying keep it all in e-mail? It's a nice idea, however, if they want to bank more than 20 recipies you will not be able to send e-mails out. I have tried to send out an e-mail, and it tells me I have over 20 e-mails and must delete one before I can send one.


 

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Originally Posted by Pimpstress_Bambi View Post
Are you saying keep it all in e-mail? It's a nice idea, however, if they want to bank more than 20 recipies you will not be able to send e-mails out. I have tried to send out an e-mail, and it tells me I have over 20 e-mails and must delete one before I can send one.
True.

But if the OP has slots on that server (or any server really), he could make lvl1's on redside. Send the emails and claim the items, effectively being "mules" until the OP needs the item and can re-email them back to the main toon. A little bit of work but increases the amount he could store and free up emails.

To the OP, yeah, I love red side and prefer it to blue. I have learned some time ago that being patient works wonders.

Good hunting!


 

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Originally Posted by Pimpstress_Bambi View Post
Are you saying keep it all in e-mail? It's a nice idea, however, if they want to bank more than 20 recipies you will not be able to send e-mails out. I have tried to send out an e-mail, and it tells me I have over 20 e-mails and must delete one before I can send one.
I think he's just stating the the new E-mail is the closest we have to an actual bank system. It's limited, yes, but right now I'm glad we have something like it at all.


Arc ID: 348998 - Becoming a villain
Arc ID: 373341 - To Save a Hero

Got Inf?

 

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Thanks guys for that tip.. Time to go evaluate some of my vill 50's across the serves and see what i've got..

any idea on the reward rolls vs recipes you can get?


50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster

 

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Originally Posted by JusticeisServed View Post
Hey everyone.
I love this game, but generally end up playing hero side more often than villain side.. the big problem is when I get to that milestone of level 32 I usually go out and try to find some level 35 IOs and start the IO process..

On hero side it's not usually too big a problem (well it's been worse since AE started I guess..) but on villain side it is just flat out horrible.

I don't earn enough merits to piece together my sets at a reasonable rate and the market for everything always seems to have zero in stock..

Is there some other way to find these recipes? I have so many villains that stall around level 32 because I can't find the IO sets i'm looking for..
Well I am waiting for Going Rogue to switch to where there are recipes.


total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

 

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Originally Posted by SwellGuy View Post
Well I am waiting for Going Rogue to switch to where there are recipes.
this. I prefer red side except for the next to impossible mission of getting IOs to create the builds I want. depending on the mechanics, I know that I will move 2 or 3 from red to blue to stock up on recipes and enhancements and then move back. with a level 50, I should be able to move around 45 - 50 IOs per trip.


 

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Originally Posted by JusticeisServed View Post
Does turning off xp get you more tickets for AE?
I'm not sure. But what it does do is effectively put your level progression on "pause". That way you can keep getting rewards but the enemies stay at the same level, plus you're not building up even more powers and slots to worry about filling. And since AE tickets can be turned in for whatever you're after, you're not stuck with piles of cheap random drops.


 

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Originally Posted by kendo View Post
this. I prefer red side except for the next to impossible mission of getting IOs to create the builds I want. depending on the mechanics, I know that I will move 2 or 3 from red to blue to stock up on recipes and enhancements and then move back. with a level 50, I should be able to move around 45 - 50 IOs per trip.
As long as you've got a hero on blueside with that kind of money. The devs have said (I'm told it was at Pax) that influence and infamy will not be brought across from one side to the other. When you switch you keep any items you've got, but have zero of the new side's inf. However your old side's inf does get put into a kind of holding, so if you switch back it's still there waiting for you. You just can't spend it while you're playing for the other team.


 

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Originally Posted by Triplash View Post
As long as you've got a hero on blueside with that kind of money. The devs have said (I'm told it was at Pax) that influence and infamy will not be brought across from one side to the other. When you switch you keep any items you've got, but have zero of the new side's inf. However your old side's inf does get put into a kind of holding, so if you switch back it's still there waiting for you. You just can't spend it while you're playing for the other team.
Recipe storage at level 50: 20. +9 for memorization. +5 for 66mo vet.
Enhancement storage at level 50: 10.
Salvage storage at level 50: 50. +20 for memorization/Scrounger. +10 for Vanguard Sack. +5 for 66mo vet.
And +50 salvage for vault (don't know for sure if vault will cross over, since it is not "character based storage", instead being stored off the character - thus why I list it separately from normal on-character salvage storage)

That is a CONSIDERABLE haul if you're willing to go through the morality switch to play the market. And keep in mind the devs have not said it's a quick, easy switch.


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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
Recipe storage at level 50: 20. +9 for memorization. +5 for 66mo vet.
Enhancement storage at level 50: 10.
Salvage storage at level 50: 50. +20 for memorization/Scrounger. +10 for Vanguard Sack. +5 for 66mo vet.
And +50 salvage for vault (don't know for sure if vault will cross over, since it is not "character based storage", instead being stored off the character - thus why I list it separately from normal on-character salvage storage)

That is a CONSIDERABLE haul if you're willing to go through the morality switch to play the market. And keep in mind the devs have not said it's a quick, easy switch.
Plus a second build at 50 could take a lot of supplies over.


total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

 

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Originally Posted by SwellGuy View Post
Plus a second build at 50 could take a lot of supplies over.
I was deliberately leaving out "respeccing out of IOs in my build" because not everyone has ready access to bunches of respecs. What I listed before, every single player can bring over with a small amount of effort.


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Originally Posted by Dispari View Post
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

 

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Originally Posted by Triplash View Post
As long as you've got a hero on blueside with that kind of money. The devs have said (I'm told it was at Pax) that influence and infamy will not be brought across from one side to the other. When you switch you keep any items you've got, but have zero of the new side's inf. However your old side's inf does get put into a kind of holding, so if you switch back it's still there waiting for you. You just can't spend it while you're playing for the other team.
understood, but I don't need to bring anything with me from red side to blue side. just need a way to transport the goods back to the villain side. I have enough $$ on the blue side, if not IO's already sitting in storage, to give my villain turned hero 30 or 40 recipes + enhancements and send him on his way back to his villainous ways.


 

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
That is a CONSIDERABLE haul if you're willing to go through the morality switch to play the market. And keep in mind the devs have not said it's a quick, easy switch.
Absolutely, yes it is a big haul. And if you pick the right items it may even be profitable beyond financing your current needs, allowing you to bring a few things back to sell or pass along to alts and friends.

And no, I'm sure it won't be quick or easy. For starters, in order to access the other faction's market you have to go two steps in the other direction, not just one. For example Rogues can get into Paragon City, but they can't use Wentworths until they turn all the way into Heroes. Then they turn Vigilante and can get back into the Isles, but they won't be able to use the Black Market again until they turn all the way into Villains. At least that's what the last confirmed info from the devs said.

Nobody said a smuggler's life would be easy


 

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Originally Posted by Triplash View Post
I'm not sure. But what it does do is effectively put your level progression on "pause". That way you can keep getting rewards but the enemies stay at the same level, plus you're not building up even more powers and slots to worry about filling. And since AE tickets can be turned in for whatever you're after, you're not stuck with piles of cheap random drops.
I think you are thinking of merits, not AE tickets. one thing you cannot do with AE tickets is pick specific recipes. you can select to random roll bronze, silver or gold level recipes as well as what range level of recipes you want to roll against.

but the BIG caveat is that the recipe you receive will be your level or the maximum level of the recipe, whichever is higher. so if I am a level 48, I could choose to roll for level 35 - 39 bronze tickets. if I were to roll a kinetic combat IO, which has a maximum level of 35, I would get a level 35 recipe. but if a rolled an obliteration, which caps out at level 50, I would get a level 48 recipe.

depending on your plans, normally involving PvP or exemping down to lower levels, you may want recipes at a lower level than their maximum cap. I usually keep 1 character level locked at 32, so recipes I get are no higher than 32. that way I can exemp down to level 29 (for Oros flashback missions) or to PvP at a level 30 cap and still have full benefit from the IO bonuses.

in answer to the original question, no, you don't get any more AE tickets if you turn off xp. the only real benefit is to try to control the level of the recipes you get when turning in those tickets.


 

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Originally Posted by kendo View Post
understood, but I don't need to bring anything with me from red side to blue side. just need a way to transport the goods back to the villain side. I have enough $$ on the blue side, if not IO's already sitting in storage, to give my villain turned hero 30 or 40 recipes + enhancements and send him on his way back to his villainous ways.
Oh perfect, you're gold then. I just thought I'd mention it for people reading the thread who don't have a cross-faction bankroll. For those who don't, take Aggelakis' advice and fill your suitcase before you switch. That should help you out.

The only thing I'd suggest then kendo, is get your stuff before GR hits. I have a feeling the markets are going to go crazy for a while once it does, with boatloads of new characters looking to get kitted out, plus all the current and returning marketeers having two markets to drool over.

That and maybe, outfit the character who does the switching while he's still over there, and bring back all the stuff for a second character. It costs the same but takes less time and effort.


 

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Originally Posted by kendo View Post
I think you are thinking of merits, not AE tickets. one thing you cannot do with AE tickets is pick specific recipes. you can select to random roll bronze, silver or gold level recipes as well as what range level of recipes you want to roll against.
Ahh right, my bad. I haven't used AE since the farms started cluttering up the selection screen. I guess it shows


 

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Originally Posted by Triplash View Post

That and maybe, outfit the character who does the switching while he's still over there, and bring back all the stuff for a second character. It costs the same but takes less time and effort.
this is a good idea, thanks. I was planning on using a lvl 50 because they could carry more back with them. but you're right, sending over a level 35 or so that is waiting to get his shiny toys would probably do better over-all. I could slot him up and then carry some back with him. wouldn't be able to carry quite as many back but wouldn't need to as he would also be slotting quite a few into his own powers.