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Kat/WP is very good for a new player or someone new to Scrappers. /WP is very easy just fire and go. Kat gives you Divine Avalanche which makes /WP very tough. It gives up really nothing at the end and plays up really well. Kat/WP is what I tell most people to play when first trying out a Scrapper.
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Originally Posted by Gabriel Fry
Would a Kat/WP be a good suggestion? and are there other sets that could get him what he is looking for?
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are there other sets that will work well for this besides KAT/ ? my dad really isn't into the whole samurai thing... he likes the idea of fistfighting or boxing... I dunno maybe any of the other sets with FX off would be better?
Broad Sword will work well with /Willpower. Broad Sword is more of a heavy hitter and nothing like samurai really.
If he likes fistfighting and boxing I would say Dark Melee/Willpower would be good. Dark melee is all fighting with the hands and is really good. The only thing bad about this combo is the lack of AoEs. Dark Melee is still a great set to play and gives you Siphon Life which is a great attack and heal. Siphon life again makes /Willpower that much tougher.
Martial Arts would be good to you can change a lot of the kicks to punches now, but I'm just not that big of fan of Martial Arts.
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A Super Strength/Willpower Brute would probably be the best suited to a broad description like that. If it HAS to be a blueside character, I'd suggest Martial Arts/Willpower, with the alternate punchy animations used for as many attacks as possible. That'll give a very mixed martial arts sort of feel to the character and hit reasonably hard.
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Originally Posted by Gabriel Fry
are there other sets that will work well for this besides KAT/ ? my dad really isn't into the whole samurai thing... he likes the idea of fistfighting or boxing... I dunno maybe any of the other sets with FX off would be better?
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heh shows what i know... I have been trying to educate myself, but I didn't know that MA effects could be changed... heh thanks for the input I'll look at BS and MA
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Originally Posted by Gabriel Fry
are there other sets that will work well for this besides KAT/ ? my dad really isn't into the whole samurai thing... he likes the idea of fistfighting or boxing... I dunno maybe any of the other sets with FX off would be better?
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Fire is devastating against foes.
Dark Melee/WP
Dark Melee will attacks will synergize well with /WP because of the accuracy debuffs against foes and the healing attack.
Also, make sure you tell him not to delete the spines/regen. Once he gets more experienced playing scrappers in general he may come back to it and find he likes it more once he's a better player.
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My only quibble with Katana/wp is that it's too good. Once you make a katana, it's hard to be happy with any of the other scrapper primaries. And you'll put wp on every tank you make.
They're great though. Excellent for a beginner.
My first scrapper, which I took to 50, was MA/Inv. Simple and clunky, you can't go wrong with that either. But katana/wp is robust, overpowered, and just cool.
Feel free to give me negative rep for using the word "quibble." The more I look at it the more rediculous it seems. I hate it when that happens. One of the worst words for realizing it's a very strange sound and spelling is Food. Which caveman chose that sound? Nomnom would be better.
Yikes, off topic.
Anything/WP would probably work for your dad if he doesn't like clicking, since WP is just turn on your toggles and go.
If he likes punching and survivability, as has already been stated, DM/WP would be a great combo for him. I'd go DM over MA because imo, DM has much better damage mitigation than MA with siphon life, and DM's build up power is awesome. If he makes a brute, SS/WP is a great punching type combo.
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Once you make a katana, it's hard to be happy with any of the other scrapper primaries.
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Katana is a great primary, but mostly due to DA, which can be less effective with other combos.
dm/sr
dm/invuln
2 scraps that are almost fire and forget and incredible strong. With the caveat of lvl 22 and SO's, and maybe lvl 28 for invuln and invincibility.
Dm/Da is good as well. Dm/ filling in alot of holes of /da.
Claws/Sr is fun.
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Katana/WP is very good for a newbie, very easy to play and very sturdy. Roll one right now! |
Originally Posted by Gabriel Fry
I played CoH right after it released, and couldn't really get into it, so I set it aside. About a year ago I started a new account (lost the old account info
 ) and have been enjoying playing my claws/regen. My dad is getting into it and built a spine/regen up to 29. However, he is struggling with death and managing the "clicky" aspect of regen and feels spines is pretty lackluster. I would like to suggest something easy and fun where he is durable and still feels like he can do damage.Would a Kat/WP be a good suggestion? and are there other sets that could get him what he is looking for? |
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For what it worths I disagree with those that give any other combo than Kat and BS for WP for a new player. WP is not a tough secondary, far from it, it is squishy, very squishy without expensive set bonuses.
For WP to do it's job, you need time to regen and that's what DA/Parry give.
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I definitely see where you're coming from, but if the primary has any mitigation at all in it, /WP becomes a very tough set, even without set bonuses.
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For what it worths I disagree with those that give any other combo than Kat and BS for WP for a new player. WP is not a tough secondary, far from it, it is squishy, very squishy without expensive set bonuses.
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You don't really need help from the Primary either. I played Dual Blades/Willpower to 50 on a Scrapper, and I think to about 30 on a Brute, both on the influence earned while leveling. "Very Squishy" is not how I'd describe it. I suspect this is a build or play style problem, not a lack of expensive set bonuses problem.
I'll agree that it's even hardier with Broad Sword or Katana, though.
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I played CoH right after it released, and couldn't really get into it, so I set it aside. About a year ago I started a new account (lost the old account info
) and have been enjoying playing my claws/regen. My dad is getting into it and built a spine/regen up to 29. However, he is struggling with death and managing the "clicky" aspect of regen and feels spines is pretty lackluster. I would like to suggest something easy and fun where he is durable and still feels like he can do damage.
Would a Kat/WP be a good suggestion? and are there other sets that could get him what he is looking for?