That's correct, but keep in mind that things like the Luck of the Gambler global also offer a defensive enhancement, which increases as the level of the IO does. Sometimes it's better to have more defense, but if all you care about is the recharge bonus, then get the lowest level of the IO that you can.
EDIT: Your example of Edict of the Master: Try to grab the lowest level you can. It's always a 5% defense bonus, no matter what level the IO is.
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Thx so much for the info.
So the lv 50 Luck of the Gambler 7.5 Recharge. Its recharge bonus is only good to lv 47?
Yes. Which is why my warshade uses all level 25 ones.
Actually, all set bonuses work like that. If you have all level 50 IOs, then as soon as you exemplar to level 46 or lower, you lose every single bonus.
My Dark Armor tank does not have a single set IO over level 40 if it's used to get set bonuses. My character is essentially the same regardless of exemplar all the way to level 37. It allows me to run things like the sewer trial and maintain my S/L/E/N softcap.
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Removed, just checked the LOTG set on the Wiki.
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Hang on... it's only the set bonus you lose. Isn't luck of the gambler 7.5% recharge the IO's power, not the set bonus, so it'll still apply even when you exemplar?
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http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Set_Bonu...nd_Exemplaring
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Inventio...ements#Globals
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Yeah, thanks, went fact checking after posting.... I should know better 
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It took me a long time to figure out that procs and globals work in completely different ways.
Procs always work as long as the power they are slotted in is available. A level 50 damage proc slotted in brawl always has a chance of firing.
The really tricky ones are things like Numina's +recovery. It looks like it's a set bonus, but really, it's a proc. More technically, it's a Proc120, meaning that it has a (100%) chance to apply an effect to your character for the next 120 seconds. Put it in Triage Beacon (even if it's a level 50 and you're exemped to 5) and you'll have a recovery bonus 2 minutes after you drop the beacon. Put it in Health, and you'll have the recovery bonus as long as you don't exemplar so far that you lose the power Health.
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Oh, I meant I should know better than to post before checking the facts I'm a long long way from understanding set bonuses etc. I just stick stuff in there and cross my fingers 
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Heh, it's hard to go wrong with IOs. At level 35, I think, they become better than +3 SOs, especially when you start talking multi-aspect ones. That's before you start talking set bonuses!|
Originally Posted by Diggis
I just stick stuff in there and cross my fingers
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What I'm saying is: stick stuff in and you don't even need to cross your fingers. It's still better than SOs.
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Cheers. I have one fully IO's character, a blaster with so many set bonuses it's hard to read his /info. Am working on a couple of others now. Emailing recipies makes it so much easier too.|
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Heh, it's hard to go wrong with IOs. At level 35, I think, they become better than +3 SOs, especially when you start talking multi-aspect ones. That's before you start talking set bonuses!
What I'm saying is: stick stuff in and you don't even need to cross your fingers. It's still better than SOs. |
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Originally Posted by Mage_Black
Ok here is my question. I just read that globals exemplar only to 3 under. So is it better to slot the lv 30 global of a set or lv 40 of a set? For example: Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus? I'm guessing the lv 30 because of when you drop in lvs during task forces. You would be able to use as low as lv 27 with the lv 30 and only will be able to use the other to lv 37. Please help.
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All this info is great. So tell me this, why does a Call to Arms lv 30 cost so much more at Wentworth and the Black Market then the lv 15 if they do the same thing? The lv 15 is so much better for gameplay.
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All this info is great. So tell me this, why does a Call to Arms lv 30 cost so much more at Wentworth and the Black Market then the lv 15 if they do the same thing?
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Although, I bet if you look at it more closely, you'll notice it has to do with availability. How often do level 15 ones sell? When was the last?
Since 30s are more common and easier to come by, their price is more current.
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The level 15 probably hasn't sold one in 3 months. They don't exist in decent numbers, so the price doesn't reflect current numbers. And it's easier to place a bid on a 30 and wait a week to get it than it is to clog your WW with bids on each of 15-25 for months at a time waiting for one lucky sale to go up.
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Originally Posted by Mage_Black
All this info is great. So tell me this, why does a Call to Arms lv 30 cost so much more at Wentworth and the Black Market then the lv 15 if they do the same thing? The lv 15 is so much better for gameplay.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
People are stupid.
Although, I bet if you look at it more closely, you'll notice it has to do with availability. How often do level 15 ones sell? When was the last? Since 30s are more common and easier to come by, their price is more current. |
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Actually, the market history was wiped when i17 went live, so all price histories are only transactions since then.
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Also, listing fees. Someone might of been too poor to list the fifteen as high as they wanted when all the bids on it are lower.
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Just bought a 7.5 last week at the merit gal...level 49. Feh.
Also, pretty sure that Purple IO sets still apply their bonuses even when Exemplared down. I know that when examined on my scrapper while running the new Posi TF, under the powers tab, it still listed all of the "Ultimate such and such" bonuses, even while I was functionally level 16. All of the other abilities/set bonuses from non purple sets were gone, however.
Also, the +Stealth Celerity Unique in sprint, that is in my case a level 50 IO, did still seem to work even while exemplared down. (I got the transluscent form when I turned on sprint, and I did seem to have the standard amount of stealth that it grants).
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Of course the stealth IO worked - it is a 120. So it's
basically a proc.
Both purple and PvP ( thus also called.muave) sets retain their sete bonuses regardless of exemplAr status.
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Of course the stealth IO worked - it is a 120. So it's
basically a proc. Both purple and PvP ( thus also called.muave) sets retain their sete bonuses regardless of exemplAr status. |
Duh! Totally didn't think of the Stealth IO as a proc :P That makes sense :P
And yeah, forgot that the PvP sets exemp down too... mostly because they are so silly rare/expensive that I don't even look at them anymore
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Heh, it's hard to go wrong with IOs. At level 35, I think, they become better than +3 SOs, especially when you start talking multi-aspect ones. That's before you start talking set bonuses!
What I'm saying is: stick stuff in and you don't even need to cross your fingers. It's still better than SOs. |
level 35 common IOs are essentially identical to +3 SOs
level 24 dual IOs are minusculely better than +3 SOs
level 20 triple IOs are minusculely better than +3 SOs
There is a spectacular table on the wiki.
I figure the more people know how good low-level sets are the more of a market for them there will be.
Another thing to keep in mind. When you exemplar your enhancement bonus gets reduced. So if you have 3 damage IOs in an attack for 99% damage, when you drop to level 15 to do a Posi you only get to keep about 39% of that.
However, there is a funky rule where small bonuses don't get reduced. So double and triple and quads give full effect. Now, on a Posi run it would be almost impossible to keep high-level bonuses. But you can get great bonuses down to level 21 as long as no individual bonus is higher than 20%.
so the level 50 quads give 18.6% to each of four stats and that is immune to exemplaring down to level 21. A level 43 triple gives 19.9%. A level 24 dual gives 19.2% to both.
Since any dual level 24 or above is already better than a +3 SO and any triple level 20 or above is also better than a +3 SO, if you use level 24-43 sets you can function with your set bonus and with most or all of you total enhancement both.
This is where non-purples have an advantage. Since purples only come in larger than 20% flavor, they are always chopped when you exemp down. On the other hand you always get the set bonus, so there is that at least.
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They retain their set bonuses but the enhancement value still gets reduced. Just FYI.
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Both purple and PvP ( thus also called.muave) sets retain their set bonuses regardless of exemplar status.
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Ok here is my question. I just read that globals exemplar only to 3 under. So is it better to slot the lv 30 global of a set or lv 40 of a set? For example: Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus? I'm guessing the lv 30 because of when you drop in lvs during task forces. You would be able to use as low as lv 27 with the lv 30 and only will be able to use the other to lv 37. Please help.