What Happened Here?

Okay, I realize I was gone for over a year when I deployed, and then I was pretty much offline when I got back due to connection issues, but I have been back in-game now for the better part of the last three months. During that time, I have noticed, in the forums anyway, a division appearing amongst the ranks of my beloved server. I will be the first to admit that I'm not one of the legacy veterans that are floating around here, but I did come over to Liberty within the first 5 days of my starting up with the game.

I originally joined and went to Freedom because it was the first server to show up at the top of the list. I was cajoled into coming over to Liberty by a couple of people who are no longer active, who also introduced me to my first SG. For that I am thankful because it allowed me to meet the incredible caliber of people that populate this great server.

It took a while for me to really get the feel of things, and, as life typically goes, once I started feeling comfortable, I had to leave. Since I've been back, I've been welcomed with open arms by some great people on this server, to include AV, GEL, Steele, DW, Camo, and others too numerous to name. However, what's bothering me is what I'm seeing here in the forums.

I understand that these are open forums that anybody, from any server, can peruse, but within the last week, I have seen two threads that have been used as a means to turn Libertines against each other. I remember a time when that never would have happened. We stuck together, in-game, and out of game. If someone from another server came in here trying to start trouble, they didn't stick around because we simply outnumbered them. Sure, we may have had our share of grievances between ourselves, but it got worked out. And we definitely never let someone from another server come here and divide us.

I have heard talk of cliques within the server. Yes, there is some truth to that. How can there not be when there are super-groups? Just joining a super-group automatically puts you into a clique of some sort. Then there are the chat channels. The chat channels are open to anyone to join. You don't have to be an active participant in every discussion, but if you're going to join in, chime in. Make yourself heard, get noticed, and make friends. This is, and I know it's going to blow Valor's mind, a game. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

I guess what I'm trying to say is this, I miss the camaraderie that I used to see in the forums. Yes, we are all entitled to our own opinions, but I felt that this was more of one big family. A little dysfunctional at times, but a family nonetheless. We stuck together, and we worked through our issues, but we never chose the side of someone from outside over someone from inside.

Maybe I'm just old-fashioned like that. Or maybe it's 14 years of being an Army infantryman that's taught me that no matter what, the people that you serve with, or in this case, play with, stick together. You can listen to what people from outside your unit have to say, but in the end, it's what the people in your unit have to say that matters. Or, to put it another way, it's like in a family. You can bad-mouth your own sibling all you want, but the minute someone outside of the family says something about said sibling, "them's fightin' words!"

Take it for what it's worth. I'm not trying to single anybody out, other than that jab at Valor, but that's because he tried to set me up with some villainesses. If you feel that I've fired rounds in your direction and you think that was unfair, come to me and address me. I'm not tough to find, and I have a pretty thick skin. Here's hoping that this fantastic server is able to deal with out respective differences and get them all ironed out in a timely fashion.

Those are my two cents. I'm Geronimo 69, and I approve this message.

Thank you, Geronimo.

I needed to be reminded of some of these points. I hope our family can find a way to get back to where we once were.

I dont think it will take to much for that to happen. The way I see it this is an isolated incident. Liberty is good about bouncing back and getting past the grime because for the most part we are adults or at least act like them.


But thats why reguardless of whether we need it or not I want to attack Monster Island. Nothing really to gain from it, just a time for LIBERTY to get together and have some fun (Kinda like a hami raid with Hank i keed i keed).

As for the posts that are bound to show up in this thread a lil further down... well my advice is to ignore em all until they are standing right in front of you. Then you have no option of ignoring it.


Dead West
aka Adam Strange

Love for Liberty!

Man, I totally missed what was going on oO;

Oi vey it's all a bunch of tl;dr.

Just ignore the posts where people are ******** and it'll fall off the radar eventually.

It's not difficult.

Thank you for the well written reminder to all of us.

See, your problem is that you cite me as a productive member of the Liberty community. When, in fact, I'm nothing but an (insert word I'm probably not aloud to say on the forums).

...Anyway...I do see what you mean. These forums used to be pretty active a year or two ago (I remember a couple very interesting threads), and there really just hasn't been much going on. Hopefully once we get the whole GR thing up and running, we'll get some more active people back. Seems like everyone either left or never bothers to do anything anymore.

I've heard a lot of people who just avoid the forums because they don't like the new format. I'll admit I read a lot more than I post lately.

OP...

Thanks for bringing all back to reality...

I think the entire community is frustrated... should it be lack of more participation, our longing for the old days of the game or it's visual (lack of) population or just everyday RL stuff...

Even the chat channels seems to be quieter and less 'friendly' than they were... I'm not a big 'chatter' but I try to at least say hi when I log in... and seldom does a reply come... and I see it the same for many that are not big time in to chatting but casually saying hello...

I think Liberty is a good place now, was a great place before and will again become a great place for friends and friendly teaming. Just have to weather the current storm... much like others we've faced over the years.

I have returned after a prolonged absence. I've perused the Liberty forum and perhaps haven't read the same things or not in the same context. But, I wasn't really looking for anything to jump out at me.

I think that if there are ..issues that need to be addressed, before doing so, let's consider if this is something important. Other than profanity or ill-made costumes on characters, I can't think of too many things that would be worth getting upset about.

This is a game. A great game. And each player is a wonderful person, in their own way. As long as we remember (or figure it out eventually) that neither the forums nor the game chat channels are a place for a rant. A rant is best saved for Saturday mornings at large discount retail stores.

I applaud the original poster for trying to get folks to get along. If noone tells us where we're going wrong, we just might not figure it out on our own.

Honestly, I have never had a really bad interaction here or in game. I haven't seen anything like the kind of mean-spiritedness that I have on so many forums. Really, this is all pretty tame stuff in my experience.

Everybody has been very friendly and helpful. I've learned a lot and I try and pass along what I can when I can do it without sounding like a lecture.

We just need to remember what it is we like about the game and the people that play it. Be patient and don't assume that someone is being snarky when they aren't. Remember that not everyone sees things the way you do. They might be right and you might be too.

And remember...Game ON!

Lemme compare Liberty to stereotyped American High School:

The Populars: The more active members on the Liberty forums with 1000+ posts

The Glee Club: Camo and his little friends ***** from Camo's Teen Lounge

The Jocks: Those always starting up teams and leading stuff

The Outcasts: Those who just laugh and does not associate with the obnoxiousness of majority of Liberty players - especially those constantly stating their worthless opinions on this forum, except for Fitzsimmons - he's my Liberty Idol.

The Goths and Cutters: Those who abuse speeding TFs, powerlevels, and use of exploits because THEY CAN and it is their 14.99 to do WHATEVER they want. The Jocks and the Populars may think that they're only destroying themselves in the game, but the Outcasts in them just tell those obnoxious players to play ring around the rosie while they take 90% of the time chatting with their MMO BFFs rather than play a game that was meant to be played.

Janitors: the Devs and Mods who have to clean up the "Doo Doo" from the forum chats and channel chats by silencing and getting rid of players on temporary bans.... oh and deleting offensive threads. erhm i.e. MOD 8

You guys can see where I belong on this list. If you feel like you can add more to the list, please do so, I am having fun semi-conforming to the Populars

Ultrasex (yeah that's what i'm callin you )

welcome back

Not much different... here's all you need

Make friends with the Sisterhood Because we're not all crazy, just some of us.

Get in the LB channel and SisterhoodFriends channel

ignore Camo when he gets on heat (unless you're a guy, then i *think* you're safe)

team with me and get a debt bage!