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Agreed on most of these points. I definitely preferred the first one more as a film overall, but the second one was more entertaining. I'm sorry marvel, but Iron Man wasn't really a comedy, but you turned it into one. Im not complaining that much though. And the actor change for Rhoadie was odd, not to mention, Nick Fury had like no time in the movie. Then Tony has the disease and Nick shows up and is like LOLCURE. The bit with cap americas old shield propping up the particle accelerator was funny, but pointless. There were alot of little pointless moments that just irked me. All of them except the bit with the bit with the desk spinner, which was fantastic. You wanna listen to the conversation... but... desk spinner thingy...
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Gonna be interesting seeing the deleted scenes on the DVD/BD, as there were a couple of scenes in the trailer that didn't make it to the final film...
As for the naming thing, I thing Favreau is trying to find a happy medium between Nolan and Singer territory. Nolan's realism won't allow a bunch of funny names for people, whereas Singer will throw the names in without a real explanation of how they got them.
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As the story and blueprints show, the old guy was Anton Vanko, who in the comics was the original Crimson Dynamo, the Russian answer to Iron Man. Whiplash in the comics was a criminal who was supported by Justin Hammer. Favreau took elements of both and created Ivan Vanko.
As for the Black Widow, they give her true name, Natasha Romanoff, and give her a fairly faithful copy of her black suit. They don't go into her history of who she was before she joined SHIELD.
And yes, they never blatantly call Rhodey's armor the War Machine, but Tony Stark says the words during their fight at his party ('You think you can handle this? You wanna be a war machine?') Favreau did the same thing in the first movie with the Iron Monger, never calling it that, but working the words into Jeff Bridge's dialogue ('This is who we are, Tony. We're iron mongers.')
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I liked it, but I was a bit disappointed they didn't use more AC/DC music, considering the soundtrack they released was nothing but. I also was surprised they didn't bring back Ramin Djawadi to compose the score; I liked his sound, and missed it.
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Originally Posted by Black_Marrow
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Agreed on most of these points. I definitely preferred the first one more as a film overall, but the second one was more entertaining. I'm sorry marvel, but Iron Man wasn't really a comedy, but you turned it into one. Im not complaining that much though. And the actor change for Rhoadie was odd, |
Another concern that was floated at the time Don Cheadle was cast as Rhodes was whether or not Marvel and the Studio were still planning an Iron Man 3 after Avengers. Reportedly Terrence Howard wasn't willing to commit out that far, which came back to the paycheck. Cheadle was reportedly willing to commit to an extended movie series.
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It was also implied that Nick Fury and Howard Stark had worked together, and Fury seemed to be further aware of Tony's activities and his relationship with his father. According to a recent revelation: http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEsDhyvv17ovvv :: We'll actually see Howard Stark get involved with Captain America... which brings us onto this point:
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I really liked the movie. In a lot of ways, I think it was actually better than the first one. I thought the fights were in general better and more interesting. I loved this version of the briefcase suit. Nick Fury was fantastic in the movie, and I don't think any of the supporting characters grabbed an undue amount of attention or were ignored. A little more Black Widow action would have been nice though. The little references like Cap's Shield were great without being overdone.
I do like how they handled Tony's decent into despair and self destructive behavior, but I did feel that what was missing was what exactly he was doing to find a solution. Pretty much they just had him saying 'Well, I tried everything and since I'm brilliant, there must be no cure'. It seems to me that there were plenty of other solutions, including getting the reactor out of his chest. He really didn't need it per se to keep him alive. He just needed some way to keep the shrapnel out of his heart. And once back in civilization he could have found some other way, or another way to power the electromagnet... Also, he was acting in a very traditional manner to suicidal people and yet nobody really tried to do anything to find out what was wrong than ask some casual questions. Sure he's eccentric, but giving away most everything he owns and doing even crazier stuff than normal should have had Pepper, Rhodey and even Happy more worried than they were.
The villains. Ivan was okay, being a mish-mash between Whiplash, the Crimson Dynamo and some unspecified genius. Neither of the other two in the comics were all that bright. One being a criminal thug and the other a communist patriot both of whom were given high tech toys that they didn't develop. But it worked well enough for the movie, giving Tony someone who could challenge him both intellectually and with armor.
Justin Hammer however.. was a putz. And totally unlike his comic book counterpart. Comic Hammer is a dangerous corporate raider who never gets caught and bankrolls a number of costumed villains to mostly get his rival Tony Stark, who he hates. Movie Hammer is a bumbling fool of a CEO who doesn't seem to know what he's doing, is constantly being outmaneuvered by Tony and Ivan and never seems to have back up plans. He just expects that he can throw some money at a problem and it will solve itself. I have to wonder just how he managed to build a large company, especially if his products are so seemingly unreliable.
The ending and set up for the Avengers movie is interesting, but I won't spoil those here. I've spoiled enough I think. I will warn of course, stay till the end after the credits for another Avengers tie-in mini scene.
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Agreed on most of these points. I definitely preferred the first one more as a film overall, but the second one was more entertaining. I'm sorry marvel, but Iron Man wasn't really a comedy, but you turned it into one. Im not complaining that much though. And the actor change for Rhoadie was odd, not to mention, Nick Fury had like no time in the movie. Then Tony has the disease and Nick shows up and is like LOLCURE. The bit with cap americas old shield propping up the particle accelerator was funny, but pointless. There were alot of little pointless moments that just irked me. All of them except the bit with the bit with the desk spinner, which was fantastic. You wanna listen to the conversation... but... desk spinner thingy... |
The Captain America shield was actually in the first Iron Man movie but very subtle. Youtube it.
Found out last night that Captain America was also in a deleted scene in the last Hulk movie.
They announced a Thor movie last year, I think it'll be interesting to see how they do it. They seem to be wanting to make it as realistic as possible so I'm curious to see how they do the demigod.
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I'd guess the Peter Principle is at work here. He (or those he hires) might be great as making small arms or more traditional weapon systems but out of his element when he tries to fill the void Stark left and create powersuits and super-micro-missiles. Unfortunately, the military wants a new Iron Man, not a new Humvee or rifle.
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My only negative thing about the movie is....!! It's called Ironman and they have Ac/Dc (which i like dont get me wrong) using their songs ... what about Black Sabboth the song "Ironman" i think it fits and yes i know they use it in trailers and such but come on!
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My only negative thing about the movie is....!! It's called Ironman and they have Ac/Dc (which i like dont get me wrong) using their songs ... what about Black Sabboth the song "Ironman" i think it fits and yes i know they use it in trailers and such but come on!
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Yeah. That's why Black Sabbath isn't used in the movie.
ummm Gee i dunno ....ALOT ! >_< Lets see Warpiggs (sorry if i mispell that) Ironman to which can be used in Ironman cuz there are no cusswords in it genius! and no thats not the reason they didnt use Ozzy bought the rights to Black Sabbath if i recall Oh and off the top of my head Black Sabbath is was will ever be big as Ac/Dc tyvm have a nice day kid
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Originally Posted by CaptainPower
ummm Gee i dunno ....ALOT ! >_< Lets see Warpiggs (sorry if i mispell that) Ironman to which can be used in Ironman cuz there are no cusswords in it genius! and no thats not the reason they didnt use Ozzy bought the rights to Black Sabbath if i recall Oh and off the top of my head Black Sabbath is was will ever be big as Ac/Dc tyvm have a nice day kid
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Here's the thing: Just because a song lacks, or has cuss-words and obscenities, doesn't mean the content, what the song says, is still appropriate. Black Sabbath / Ozzy don't have that many good songs, period. They don't have very many recognizeable tracks that make the average listener sit up and go Hey I know that Song!
AC/DC, for everything else, have the right sort of music, and the right rememberence, to just fill in behind Tony Stark's actions. Tony Stark comes off as the sort of playboy who would think AC/DC makes his anthems.
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oh ok hmm ac/dc has a song about "big balls" yeaah thats appropiate and what the heck are you talking about not having enough good songs ? ARE YOU SERIOUS?? Your lack of well general knowledge of The Ozzman and Sabbath are disheartening at the very least so i can only conclude that your just another misguided youth and i shall take pity upon you. Have a nice day and see you around kid.
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Black Sabbath/Ozzy OsBOURNE have one sorta-suitable song, which is because the title fits the movie. The lyrics of that song do not fit the movie. That's probably why it ended up in the credits of the first IM, instead of incidental music during the film.
Personally I thought the scoring of IM and IM2 was quite good. "Robot Rock" during Rhodey and Tony's party brawl was particularly apropos... and of course I'm all for more Daft Punk.
AC/DC is alright. But doing an entire soundtrack release? Not so much.
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I thought it was a good movie, very enjoyable. However there was almost too much going on for one movie, it made the story feel choppy. And I really would have liked more from each character. Sam Rockwell's Justin Hammer and Mickey Rourke's Ivan Vanko were both good characters player by great actors. So give me more time from them! They just didn't get enough lines and screen time to really make them come alive.
But those are small issues I think in an otherwise excellent movie. Not quite as good as the first one, but close enough for an enjoyable trip to the theater.
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Loved the movie for the most part. Two parts that I didn't like though.
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One: "This is a very dangerous battle I'm in so I think I'll just open up my helmet." On the part of all 3 armored types. I know you have to give the actors face time and at least Iron man and War Machine popped theirs closed But Whiplash just left his open while being attacked.
Two: The stupid stupid stupid phenomenally stupid and also stupid cliche of the villain who when defeated sets off a self destruct device... that takes over a minute to go off. For me it doesn't provide any tension. It didn't in the Predator series, it doesn't in this movie. It just makes me think about how dense the villain must be to think that they are going to "get" the hero with their diabolical explosion.
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sequel to popular iron man . I always go to sequels and ask myself if equal or better to to original. this one is okay but iron man original was better.
downey,johanssen,paltrow,jackson,faveru(sp?), and the guy who plays rhodes do excellent work...even the senator and the justin hammer guy are good
HOWEVER i have issues...
major issue 1: they never name anyone but ironman. no mention of backlash,black widow,warmachine, they dont even name the iron man suits ( golden avenger, silver avenger, mark VIII,) or say why the iron man suits are different!
major problem for me one of the reasons i liked iron man was each suit had a purpose...
major issue 2: the movie looks to be on valium even the warmachine iron man fight was slow....
over all three paws but the next one better be more energy...and i want to see a black widow movie
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