So, uh, it's been a week?

Since i17 came out, right? I'm really not sure. I know the enormous download hindered all Borderlands play for me for a few days some time not too long ago.

In any manner, what's new? What's exciting?

I know it's some visual makeover, but when I did manage to get on the game I don't think I noticed much difference. Was that just me? I'm rocking two 9800GTX cards, but I have terrible vision .. even with my contacts.

Did the whole Demon Summoning come out? Or is that whenever the expansion is coming out? Is there a date for that? Kadra and Kas' made me pre-order that.

What have people been doing since it came out? I remember when the last issue came out places like Steel Canyon and Cap au Diable were over run with people flooding to the tailors for their colors.

Did this issue have anything revolutionary like the customization of the previous issue that is bringing people on in droves?

And, am I the only one not liking the market interface? It reminds me of what I believe the AE interface was like, and I never liked the whole AE nonsense either.

Basically, I'd like to know your experiences with this new issue. I need an excuse to play since I am paying for it.

And, if anyone wants to point me to update notes that'd be pretty nifty. In my infrequent lurking and bored board trolling, I've seriously completely forgotten where anything is other than the Champion and Market sections.

New Posi TF which is in two parts, and has more badges. More exploration badges in general. Better in-game Email, including being able to send your other characters inf and IO making material. Epics are now unlocked at 20 instead of 30. Erm... Look here for other stuff: http://www.cityofheroes.com/news/gam..._overview.html

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Market interface was revamped and right now the market is down (was told mid this week but hope sooner)

demons are out for those that preordered (looks like you were force to so you should be fine). My thoughts, its just another MM set with a lot of smoke and fire effect.

The posi TF been revamped and a lot less merits and 2nd part now has a AV. Lots of ambushes / patrols that get in your way.

there are some good things about it and others bugs that should have been show stoppers.

Answers:

The visual update thing, Positron TF cut in two and redone so it's not awful, new content for both sides in the 20s, Defender lolVigilance got a lolbuff, you can send emails with inf/item attachments which is nice, you can now have 7 missions instead of 3 and VEATs/HEATs are unlocked at 20 instead of 50.

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I don't think it's just you, I've not noticed a big difference. It's nice, but not zomgincredible. Water looks pretty. Go check out Nerva. I think it's mostly because the old zones just kindof got a touchup, whereas the GR zones will be built from the ground up for Ultra Mode stuff, so they'll be a lot prettier.

Demon Summoning is out now, yeah. If you preordered it, at least. Everyone who hasn't preordered only gets Dual Pistols/Demon Summoning when GR goes live.

Date is Julyish? I think?

Not really.

I've not messed with it enough to decide. Being able to scale it makes me happy though. I didn't care on my old computer but now I've got a widescreen it pissed me off.

Excuse to play: Ehm, run some missions both solo and teamed, see if you have fun. I can't really motivate myself to do anything solo anymore, but I still have a blast teaming.

More detailed i17 Info: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Issue_17

i17 is more the tasty appetizer before the delicious main course of Going Rogue.

Honestly, Issue 17 is incredibly buggy and should have been delayed, dates be damned. It's the most buggy issue release I've seen since Issue 7.

Hey, hey, it's not that bad.

Just because there was IO duping, the markets had to come down, LGTF and zone Green Mitos are broken, the respec enhancement placement screen is broken half the time, there's a problem with the KTF, people's power customisations are being reset to defaults and globals broke for a while.

Oh, wait.

Yeah, okay.

The new badges part alone is a reason for you to loggin :P

Seems a lot more laggy to me personally

Demon Summoning is awesome. You should at least take a look at it.

With the additional exploration badges (which are only applicable towards city zones; not pvp, trial or hazard), you can also get an accolade once you get all the badges in a zone which'll award you with five merits. Additionally, in terms of badging, you do get badges for running through the new mission arcs, which are a bit of a sneak peak with what you may see once GR goes live. And, they're great arcs. I loved them when I ran through them. New Posi>original Posi, also. Silver Mantis can now be started by talking to Silver Mantis in Sharkhead instead of actually doing it from a mission computer.

New water effects looks pretty, and I appreciate the shadows. It's nice having an actual shadow now for my character and not just a circular blob. Although, bugs are annoying. But all the new things'll be even better once they're fixed.

You should do a run through on the badges and content.

A step closer to Going Rogue.

Oh Ultra Mode is shiny goodness, and leaning over at my wife's pc I notice she's having a blast on that brand new set AR/Cold Corr. ..

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I've been so ticked off with i17 that I've been killing off my Sims and now have quite a nice graveyard to prove it. I'll wait another day or two before logging into COH again.

Grr. It isn't lag if you can fix it by reducing your graphics. That's your computer not being able to keep up. Put your graphics back the way they were.

Well, there's a difference between lag and just getting a crappy framerate because the graphics are cranked up too much, not sure which problem they're having. Personally, I've experienced some memory leaks a few times, or so I think, where I drop down to 3-4 fps even when I turn down my graphics to minimum settings.

I get 30 FPS most of the time (I think hami Raids I was down to 20) I have most everything cranked up with a nvidia 285GTX OC.

Yea I normally get around 30 FPS in most zones with Ultra Mode turned up. What I described before only happened 2 or 3 times and only for 5 minutes or so each time.

My two cents on i17:

I give it a 7 (of 10). And thats manly for the 2 new story arcs on each side which are awesome. Bacon wrapped awesome.

I as a little disappointed with the ease of soloing an Army of Me... but then again I am lol FireMelee/Dark Armor brute. But still, the writing for both sides is top notch, even the NPC dialog, custom maps, and the multi-path dialog choices. (and dramatic foreshadowing to the Coming Storm and Going Rogue)

The market upgrades I am used to having had them for a month + on test.

Ultra-mode is nice. Adds a bit to hopping around. My GTX275 does just fine with it.

Split Posi... meh. I dont thing thats the change we wanted.

Emailing stuff... ok kinda neat, but it can be abused as more self storage.

Borked Hami... ok how do you screw that up. Same for the market being down. That is just sloppy.

Pistols and Demons..... double ok. Average sets with some novelity. I am glad that the devs aren't power creeping.

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