Take Icicles slot it for damage, and with some damage procs, and call it a day. 
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If I put two damage procs on it, like one from Eradication, and another from Perfect Zinger, they'll both fire? I've never been gutsy enough to put that to the test.
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Originally Posted by MentalMidget
Take Icicles slot it for damage, and with some damage procs, and call it a day.
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I don't believe you can slot Perfect Zinger....or at least I've never tried. I do however have 4 slotted Eradication (including the proc), and the damage procs from Scirocco's and Obliteration.
and yes they all can fire off.
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Originally Posted by Berzerker_NA
I'm trying to decide if I will need more than just Chilling Embrace for aggro. I just did a Sister Psyche TF with just that and it seemed fine, but I'm debating adding something else like Icicles, or the Axe taunt.
I wouldn't add either if I don't need it to hold aggro. The Axe Taunt for female toons is just aesthetically attrocious. Icicles also kind of messes up my aesthetic, but not nearly as badly. I'm not sure if I'll have enough end to keep it running very often anyway, though, even with Stamina, and the damage type is lethal, which doesn't add a lot to my axe attacks. I just don't want to let my teammates down when I get on teams, mostly. I also like herding, so I'm curious if taunt would add to my ability to do that very much. Chilling Embrace is just great, because for some reason it makes all the mobs just want to gather around. I might bring myself to endure the silly looking axe taunt, if it will get me that. Any advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated. I have to choose my level 22 power next time I log on. |
I've got everything on my Ice/Axe. Chilling Embrace, Taunt, and Icicles. For the most part when you get higher you won't have massive END issues so you can do that. For right now though it's probably better to be conservative with the toggles. That's what late level respecs are for!
Chilling Embrace is really good for holding aggro but it won't stand up by itself in some situations. Brutes that hand out good damage and have a taunt aura can get aggro for example. But probably at this point in your development you could skip taunt for a while. I think it's something you should ultimately have, but right now it may not be too big a deal.
What don't you like about the taunt? My tanker is female and I don't remember the taunt being weird, but I don't really remember the taunt at all.
When I started my tanker I didn't plan on taking Icicles, but I like it a lot now. There's a sort of inevitability to it, like no matter what happens if you drag the battle out long enough you're going to win (in most cases). Plus it's more taunt, and that's always welcome.
For you I'd be tempted to add icicles before taunt. Then you'd have two auras doing the taunting without having to target or execute a power. Chilling is probably adequate for 75% of your grouping, adding Icicles would raise that percentage to well into the upper nineties.
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She starts throwing the axe back and forth between her hands, which looks kind of silly. In retrospect, it's not that bad. It just makes the axe seem like a little toy instead of a deadly instrument of destruction. |
Originally Posted by Dromio
What don't you like about the taunt? My tanker is female and I don't remember the taunt being weird, but I don't really remember the taunt at all. |
I'm starting to detect a consensus on Icicles, though. I have to admit that having only 2 axe attacks (and Sands of Mu) does get kind of tiring.
no need for Icicles unless you want the extra damage over time.
no need for taunt, but it does help late game with AV's and such.
I do not have Icicles or Taunt on my Ice/Stone and I have never felt like I needed them.
YMMV---IMO
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I have a Ice/Ice build, and iv taken my Icicles and skipped my taunt.
Then again, Ice Patch, Chilling Embrace, Frost, Icicles, Frozen Aura,and Energy Absorbtion more then soak up a fair share of agro.
I couldnt imagine not taking Icicles.Thats almost a crime agenst Ice Armor!
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On my Ice/Axe Tank I use CE and Taunt to hold aggro and it works in spades. I did not take Icicles because the time it did any relevant damage the mobs had been long gone from my teammates' assault. |
Originally Posted by Berzerker_NA
I'm trying to decide if I will need more than just Chilling Embrace for aggro. I just did a Sister Psyche TF with just that and it seemed fine, but I'm debating adding something else like Icicles, or the Axe taunt.
I wouldn't add either if I don't need it to hold aggro. The Axe Taunt for female toons is just aesthetically attrocious. Icicles also kind of messes up my aesthetic, but not nearly as badly. I'm not sure if I'll have enough end to keep it running very often anyway, though, even with Stamina, and the damage type is lethal, which doesn't add a lot to my axe attacks. I just don't want to let my teammates down when I get on teams, mostly. I also like herding, so I'm curious if taunt would add to my ability to do that very much. Chilling Embrace is just great, because for some reason it makes all the mobs just want to gather around. I might bring myself to endure the silly looking axe taunt, if it will get me that. Any advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated. I have to choose my level 22 power next time I log on. |
I wouldn't worry much about endurance issues once you get Energy Absorption. I use EA whenever recharged (as long as I'm planted in a spawn) which keeps my endurance fueled. I do have Stamina as well.
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Originally Posted by Berzerker_NA
She starts throwing the axe back and forth between her hands, which looks kind of silly. In retrospect, it's not that bad. It just makes the axe seem like a little toy instead of a deadly instrument of destruction.
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I'm not sure what everyone else is playing, but the aggro cap seems to allow some mobs to peel off you. I have taunt/CE/Icicles, and use them all although in smaller mobs (6players or below) I rarely use taunt.
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Ah, gotcha. That never bothered me I guess. Usually I don't give that animation much time to play, I've got something queued up and ready to go as soon as possible after taunt. |
Originally Posted by Berzerker_NA
She starts throwing the axe back and forth between her hands, which looks kind of silly. In retrospect, it's not that bad. It just makes the axe seem like a little toy instead of a deadly instrument of destruction.
I'm starting to detect a consensus on Icicles, though. I have to admit that having only 2 axe attacks (and Sands of Mu) does get kind of tiring. |
I think I wound up with an odd build in that I have five of the axe attacks. I didn't even have room to take the starting power in an epic pool. My recharge just isn't high enough or my attack chain isn't good enough to survive on fewer attacks. I'm thinking about slotting Icicles for procs now though, and I've added some other recharge, so who knows, maybe I'll wind up being able to drop an attack.
I'm trying to decide if I will need more than just Chilling Embrace for aggro. I just did a Sister Psyche TF with just that and it seemed fine, but I'm debating adding something else like Icicles, or the Axe taunt.
I wouldn't add either if I don't need it to hold aggro. The Axe Taunt for female toons is just aesthetically attrocious. Icicles also kind of messes up my aesthetic, but not nearly as badly. I'm not sure if I'll have enough end to keep it running very often anyway, though, even with Stamina, and the damage type is lethal, which doesn't add a lot to my axe attacks.
I just don't want to let my teammates down when I get on teams, mostly. I also like herding, so I'm curious if taunt would add to my ability to do that very much. Chilling Embrace is just great, because for some reason it makes all the mobs just want to gather around. I might bring myself to endure the silly looking axe taunt, if it will get me that.
Any advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated. I have to choose my level 22 power next time I log on.