April 2010 Fan Art Battle - VOTE!!!
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Posted on: 2010-04-24 04:57 in Multi-Media Fan Creations
1. JohnnyKat
2. U-Naught
3. Frost
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This got linked over on the LJ community; it's not terribly clear if anyone can vote, or only artists. Assuming it's the former...
1: Frost (materials, style, and subject all a great fit to the theme; plus funny)
2: Shia (materials and some style elements highly thematic, yet the figure comes off quite well; plus some cute, some sexy)
3: U-Naught (nice mix of thematic materials and style with more sophisticated techniques; plus highly thematic setting / story. While the official text says "box of milk", my take on the expression would be closer to "How much high-fructose corn syrup do they *put* in this stuff?")
Honorable mention: ChristopherRobin (thematic materials, nice shot somewhat marred by framing / setting (should have either centered it better, or worked the sill into the piece more); I'm not really giving it credit for bonus sexy because with the medium it doesn't leap out, although looking at it closely it might qualify if in a higher-res format)
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Everybody with an active game account is allowed to vote (1 vote per person, not per account, by the way). So...vote away people from the LJ page!
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Originally Posted by Miuramir
This got linked over on the LJ community; it's not terribly clear if anyone can vote, or only artists. Assuming it's the former...
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Sorry man I tried to take the best picture of it I could... the piece is about 10 feet long and I had to pull my SUV|
Originally Posted by Miuramir
................"Honorable mention: ChristopherRobin (thematic materials, nice shot somewhat marred by framing / setting (should have either centered it better, or worked the sill into the piece more); I'm not really giving it credit for bonus sexy because with the medium it doesn't leap out, although looking at it closely it might qualify if in a higher-res format)".............
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in and climb up onto the roof of it while holding the camera over my head just to get the shot I did.
As for a high rez shot if you follow the thumbnail's link to DA and click the download button on the left side of the screen
(or just click here) and once there click the image once and it will +magnify it to a bigger version. If you want more info on the piece
you can go to my new artz thread (button in my sig) and on the last page I posted up a bunch of pictures and more info about the process.
Either way I thank you for your consideration and honorable mention.
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Originally Posted by Frost
Everybody with an active game account is allowed to vote,( 3 votes, one time per person, not per account, by the way). So...vote away people from the LJ page!
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To avoid any confusion for people new to this the voting goes as follows...
Each person gets three votes (but they must be cast all at once and you only get
the 3 votes one time per month regardless of how many accounts you have) whichever piece
you vote for first gets 3 points, the piece you vote second gets 2 points and your third choice gets 1 point.
All three votes must go to different artists (i.e. you cannot vote for the same piece more than once)
Person with the most points (not votes) gets immunity for the next month and the person with the least is out.
Any other questions just ask.
I realize that we open up the voting to everyone that has an active account.
Can we make an execption for the last vote.
Not that I disagree with his vote but his explanation is so inflamatory...it makes me just fume. 
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Originally Posted by Scootertwo
I realize that we open up the voting to everyone that has an active account.
Can we make an execption for the last vote. Not that I disagree with his vote but his explanation is so inflamatory...it makes me just fume. |
Yeah, someone had a burr in their saddle, apparently.
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I don't understand people who want attention so bad they don't care if it's negative. It seems stupid to me.
Just when you think that I'm the meanerest person in the whole biggerest world, reality comes to smack the forum in the face with a limp snausage.
Though it does make me laugh a little, because according to the rules, his vote counts just as much as everyone else's. That means that there's no reason to disallow it, aside from outright cheating.
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OK I got to say this was a great idea for a challenge albeit a bit odd lol. Good to get back to the basics. Heres my votes:
1. JohnnyKat
2. U-Naught
3. ScooterTwo
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I don't know. I usually have breast-centric political platforms. But for England I would definitely make an exception and also add hot guys with sexy accents.|
Originally Posted by Bindweed
Wassy - have you ever thought about becoming a Prime Minister? |
As for the vote, I don't have any reason not to qualify it. For all we know, several other non-explained voters could feel exactly the same way. I didn't say attention whores couldn't vote in the rules
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Do you even know what the theme was for this month man? Go take a look at those artists you mentioned and see what they do then come back and let me know what ya think.
I am guessing you just saw the pics and jumped in, because you obviously don't know talent when ya see it...
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Ya, this vote was brutal blunt...sorry, but I did laugh too a bit simply because of its amazing brashness. As for the theme comment TA, ya I think that is the BIG misunderstanding on this month. The rule was to use kindergarten art supplies, but no where (unless I totally missed it) did it specifically say the art was to actually LOOK like a kindergarten child's artwork. Also, I was surprised how much this post got hit with the "troll" spray when previous posts here and in other art threads have been similarly critical with overly detailed and exacting criticism albeit the sarcasm. At least with the over-the-top sarcasm you can pretty much laugh it off, where the more sincere-toned but exacting criticism can be taken more personal because it comes off more serious.|
Originally Posted by Thor's Assassin
lmao jeeeesh!
Do you even know what the theme was for this month man? Go take a look at those artists you mentioned and see what they do then come back and let me know what ya think. I am guessing you just saw the pics and jumped in, because you obviously don't know talent when ya see it... |
On a side note, I think I tend to agree with it kinda of sucking that people with immunity actually get dismissed by some of the voters. I mean no disrespect here, but this is an art contest right? Regardless of immunity, the votes should be based on artistic merit and not "push down the list" simply because of immunity. That pretty much reinforces the bias of popularity contest versus art contest. For this month, I could of easily done a stick figure with bewbs with crayon and an arachnos tatt out of glitter since apparently it didn't matter. Honestly, this month was not one I looked forward to and I could of dismissed it all together because of my immunity but instead I approached this like I have the previous months and put some effort into it. In addition, this thought process not only discourages the one with immunity but if there really is a month coming up that will allow those back in that dropped out, eliminated etc. - then what is the point of putting effort into this at all until that month comes around? Just something to think about...
Anyways, I hated to post this here as it is hypocritical of me since I prefer only seeing "votes" here, but it seemed appropriate with the previous recent commentary.
Again, good luck all on the final day of voting!
Globals: Johnnykat & Johnnykat2
http://johnnykat.deviantart.com/
You didn't miss anything, JK. I said in a few posts answering questions that you could make your pieces as simple or as complex as desired. I was pulling for a macaroni and glue Sistine Chapel ^.^
I wonder if Johnny's opinion would be different if he was called a "downs patient who uses their feet to draw."
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I do not believe it was a requirement but then again I don't think most tried to have their work look like the product of a kindergartener but rather to capture the spirit of such works... Again, nothing that was required, just personal interpretation of the concept I think...|
Originally Posted by Johnnykat
Ya, this vote was brutal blunt...sorry, but I did laugh too a bit simply because of its amazing brashness. As for the theme comment TA, ya I think that is the BIG misunderstanding on this month. The rule was to use kindergarten art supplies, but no where (unless I totally missed it) did it specifically say the art was to actually LOOK like a kindergarten child's artwork.
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Originally Posted by Johnnykat
Also, I was surprised how much this post got hit with the "troll" spray when previous posts here and in other art threads have been similarly critical with overly detailed and exacting criticism albeit the sarcasm. At least with the over-the-top sarcasm you can pretty much laugh it off, where the more sincere-toned but exacting criticism can be taken more personal because it comes off more serious.
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Personally I'd have rather this post was ignored (except for vote counting, as mentioned elsewhere, there's nothing there that negates it as a vote I guess...) as ignoring this kind of post is generally the best way to fight back. The poster of such posts is looking for attention and to stir up replies - Why grant their desire?
But I think that it is because it was so over the top that got some to kind of laugh at it and others to mock it. There was nothing insightful or even worthwhile in the post, it was just a flame. At least other posts with criticisms or commentary are usually at least trying to shed light on mistakes (hopefully for the artists future benefit) or into their thinking... This was obviously nothing but an attempt to be rude and mean. *shrug*
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Originally Posted by Johnnykat
On a side note, I think I tend to agree with it kinda of sucking that people with immunity actually get dismissed by some of the voters. I mean no disrespect here, but this is an art contest right? Regardless of immunity, the votes should be based on artistic merit and not "push down the list" simply because of immunity. That pretty much reinforces the bias of popularity contest versus art contest. For this month, I could of easily done a stick figure with bewbs with crayon and an arachnos tatt out of glitter since apparently it didn't matter. Honestly, this month was not one I looked forward to and I could of dismissed it all together because of my immunity but instead I approached this like I have the previous months and put some effort into it.
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Originally Posted by Johnnykat
In addition, this thought process not only discourages the one with immunity but if there really is a month coming up that will allow those back in that dropped out, eliminated etc. - then what is the point of putting effort into this at all until that month comes around? Just something to think about...
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Secondly, the idea was never to let everyone back in, just the winner or some mini contest. I suppose if one was so self assured of their ability to win the mini contest that they could just sod off until that came around but again that mini re-entry was never garaunteed.
Thirdly, there is of course the fun aspect. It's what this is supposed to be about, right? If an entrant wasn't having fun being in the contest they should certainly drop out or put in minimal effort... *shrug*
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Originally Posted by Johnnykat
Anyways, I hated to post this here as it is hypocritical of me since I prefer only seeing "votes" here, but it seemed appropriate with the previous recent commentary.
Again, good luck all on the final day of voting! |
Anyway, on the popularity contest complaint... Isn't that inevitable in any contest where people have relationships with the entrants and the coting is subjective? Even if people strive to keep personal feelings and opinions out of their voting, isn't it inevitable that other non-Best Art qualities will be used to pick who to vote for? Be it having your character included, be it the artist reading more into the theme than there was but it being what you also read into the theme... (eh, that's awkwardly worded - If I wanted the kindergarten spirit uphelp, not just the tools and the artist did so...) Hecl, people may subconsiously be influenced because one piece featured the voters favorite color...
But all biases and influences aside, with quality being so subjected, with the tyles (and mediums) varying so much, people will inevitably narrow down the field based on their own judgements and interpretations of theme, intent, whatever...
All in all, I guess my point is that there is NO totally fair way to run this contest so we either make do the best we can and just have fun with it or we don't. *shrug* That's each individuals choice to make on their own...
Before I forget...
My Vote:
1. Johnnykat
2. Pyronympho
3. U-Naught
I really did like the creativity behind a lot of the entries. The humor value behind Pyro's won me over and I thought U-Naught had a nice combination of using the required materials and capturing that kindergarten art look (even though I didn't necessarily interpret that as a requirement, but based on that perspective this really hit that mark well for me). Well, since I have immunity the argument kinda works both ways...so ya, I voted for myself this month since I didn't expect this to turn out anything like this using crayolas. If Bindweed didn't get himself disqualified this month, he had my first place vote for sure - that quicky with worn-out kid markers was pretty cool man!
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I am right here, no need to ask in theoritical third person. |
Originally Posted by Scootertwo
I wonder if Johnny's opinion would be different if he was called a "downs patient who uses their feet to draw."
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I have been told some pretty harsh things (usually with more expletives or exciting albeit mean-spirited fairytale stories) about my work or me in general on the boards. Not to mention I have been flamed for me entering this contest more then once in PMs, so I take it all with a grain of salt anymore. Then again, I post to the PvP boards too where no one gets a word in unscathed. lols
As for your comments Caemgen, I agree with a lot of it. "For fun" to me though is "enjoyment" - I enjoy doing art in general, hence art contests like this are typically fun for me no matter what (I chose to do this contest as an incentive for me to do some different works - even if I am out, I would still try and do something for the month just because). Admittedly the competitor in me pushes me maybe more then it should and while I am VERY grateful to immunity, all I was saying is that it's unfortunate that it has the potential to alter votes. And I definitely agree, that bias can't be completely weeded out in something like this...that's pretty much an understood given. On a side note, I think Wassy has been very consistent with how she has been running this and I am having a good time - thanks Wassy!
Globals: Johnnykat & Johnnykat2
http://johnnykat.deviantart.com/
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Yep yep... Just because you're safe this month doesn't mean your safe next and it is a bit unfortunate that your less likely to win immunity for next month based on having it this month. One never knows when one may have a clunker month/entry so it would be optimal to carry immunity the whole time possible |
Originally Posted by Johnnykat
...all I was saying is that it's unfortunate that it has the potential to alter votes.
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I think if I ever run this thing (ya right!) I'd give the person an "Immunity Pass" instead that they could play on whatever month the wanted so long as it was declared before voting started. Obviously it would disappear if not played before the final showdown... That way if a theme just didn't click with the artist or if they were just too darn busy to do their top quality work or whatever, their previous win would save their bacon.
Hmph, would also have to stick in a rule about only 50% of those still in contest (or such) could use their pass on any month and it would go to the first ones who played their option... *shrug* Anyway, theorising on rules for upcoming years is probably silly at this point
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I wasn't asking in theoretical third person. I specifically used your name to make sure you replied, and I appreciate the answer. Maybe I phrased it wrong.|
I am right here, no need to ask in theoritical third person.
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Perhaps I should have typed. "JohnnyKat, I wonder if your opinion would be different if..."
Proper grammar is not really my strong suit.
However, since you apparently have a fan in that person, I wonder if you could maybe ask them to not put obvious inflammatory remarks in their votes?
I'd like to think that at least here on the Art forums we can be a troll free place.
It's actually surprising while writing this I started to think about exactly what kind of art a person with Down's Syndrome could produce and I found this. Click the image to read an article about the artist.
Having Found that. I take the statements as a compliment.
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I like that "Immunity Pass" idea!
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Originally Posted by Caemgen
Yep yep... Just because you're safe this month doesn't mean your safe next and it is a bit unfortunate that your less likely to win immunity for next month based on having it this month. One never knows when one may have a clunker month/entry so it would be optimal to carry immunity the whole time possible
I think if I ever run this thing (ya right!) I'd give the person an "Immunity Pass" instead that they could play on whatever month the wanted so long as it was declared before voting started. Obviously it would disappear if not played before the final showdown... That way if a theme just didn't click with the artist or if they were just too darn busy to do their top quality work or whatever, their previous win would save their bacon. Hmph, would also have to stick in a rule about only 50% of those still in contest (or such) could use their pass on any month and it would go to the first ones who played their option... *shrug* Anyway, theorising on rules for upcoming years is probably silly at this point |
Globals: Johnnykat & Johnnykat2
http://johnnykat.deviantart.com/
I've been wavering a bit over posting this, but I guess I'm going to go ahead and put in my three cents.
1. I, too, think its kind of crummy to NOT vote for an artist's piece "because they already have immunity." If the piece is good - then its good, regardless of whether or not it "has immunity." Your vote is yours to give as you see fit, I just think thats a crummy excuse to NOT give it.
2. I find it ..odd.. to think of having "Immunity" as a reason to just slide by on that month's entry. Each month I learn something new, each month I try harder. Why waste the opportunity by purposefully "just phoning it in"?
3. I really try not to feed the trolls (but yes - I, too, fall for it sometimes anyway)
..but that just my three cents on it. not meant to harsh anybody's marshmallow.
Hey nowwww...animals do artz too!
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*ok, regains composure*
Wassy, please...PLEASE don't choose animal art for a month! 
Globals: Johnnykat & Johnnykat2
http://johnnykat.deviantart.com/
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What I do is if I'm having a problem determining voting order between a piece with immunity and one without, I'll give the nod to the one without as a tiebreaker. Like say (this month) I was trying to decide between JohnnyKat and Lousy Day (penguin factor) for 1st and 2nd place and was having a hard time. I'd Lousy Day the nod for first place there because he doesn't have immunity and JK (who I'd place 2nd) does.|
Originally Posted by U-Naught
I've been wavering a bit over posting this, but I guess I'm going to go ahead and put in my three cents.
1. I, too, think its kind of crummy to NOT vote for an artist's piece "because they already have immunity." If the piece is good - then its good, regardless of whether or not it "has immunity." Your vote is yours to give as you see fit, I just think thats a crummy excuse to NOT give it. |
But I don't let which piece has immunity influence if I'm going to consider the piece for voting at all.
Alrighty, I really liked Scoots usage of the playdoh. Very creative, and a great risk. Bubbba's use of popsicle sticks is great but I have to go with Scoots for detail.
1)Scootertwo
2)Frost (clever!)
3)Juggertha (amazing!)
This was really hard, I was stumped between Juggertha and Christopher Robin. <--gets an honourable mention
Good Luck to all, they are actually all fabulous entries!