Scrapper vs Brute?

I see what you're getting at in the post, but there have been teams where an Elm/SD or FM/SD Scrapper has made a significant impact on mob clearing.

But /SD is a special monster, and those two pairings in particular are (IMO) the best two pairings in terms of what they bring to teams.


DM/SD is my least favorite /SD combo when it shows up on a team.

I think you missed my point.

Go back to my post and replace DM/SD with El/SD on both the scrapper and brute parts. Then do the same with FM/SD.

What I meant to get across is that if you replace a scrapper on a team with a brute of the exact same powersets, or vice versa, you aren't going to notice the difference.

EDIT: Well... unless the brute has darkest night, then everyone's mitigation goes up.

No I got it, I just went off on a tangent.


You might be right for FM/SD, but not Elm/SD.

Elm/SD for Scrappers is leaps and bounds beyond what it is for Brutes.

It is highly noticeable. So much so that I couldn't bring myself to make an Elm/SD Brute and will instead wait to bring an Elm/SD Scrapper redside.


I agree though, you won't really notice a huge difference.

Still, a lot of what happens on teams goes unnoticed.

We could say very similar things about Corrs and Defenders, on a full TF on a decent team you really won't notice the differences between the two of them and for the most part they can be added interchangeably.

That doesn't mean the differences aren't there, it's just hard to notice them in an 8 person team moving at a good pace.

I'm obviously doing something wrong!
I haven't got a great amount of experience with Brutes but whenever I've tried to level a Brute I found it much slower than a Scrapper.

Two ways of building Fury:
Mobs attacking you - pre SO's not durable enough to take the damage
You attacking mobs - need to attack continually - pre SO's/Stamina run out of End

Scrappers on the other hand do good damage irrespective and can thus slow down or speed up dependant on their End and health status.

As said that's what I've found.

The thing about Brutes is that because so much of their damage comes from Fury and the only thing preventing them from building as much fury at level 1 as at 50 is their ability to survive it, you can run low-level damage output on par with an SOed scrapper as long as you guzzle the inspirations you need to survive the process. This makes leveling potentially faster, if riskier.

You've also got to slot differently. Since Fury gives you plenty of damage, slot for end rdx and accuracy first, then recharge.

Hhhhmmm... didn't really think about that.
I was using the standard Scrapper slotting, Acc then damage. End Reduction and Recharge would be added according to specific set requirement.

Thanks.