choking cloud = suppress hide?
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black_barrier,
Posted on: 2010-04-14 21:25 in Everything about PvP
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Forgot now if choking gas supress hide or just supress stealth. Anyway chokin gas has a tick rate of like 5 secons and WoC ticks every 4 seconds
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Originally Posted by Predatoric
couple of people have asked me this now and i couldnt answer, does choking cloud and/or world of confusion suppress hide if it hits the status change or not?
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I promise if I personally see anyone running cc or woc I will as them repeatedly. And I will say in bcast over and over what a great anti stalker power they are.
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I think it works pretty much like hot feet, if it hits stalker, it supresses their hide and stealth, however if acc is low on power and stalker has high def they can peacefully sit in your cloud and AS your precious part.
So its not worth it then even if you slot for accuracy? I know stalkers cap AoE defence pretty easily with hide on, I didnt know however if the fact that holds and stuff hit more now made this a good anti stalker move.
Lol conflict, thats harsh but still funny.
First off CC doesnt accept accuracy the last time I checked( Id have to log on my Rad / Dark Defender to double check). I have no idea if acc from a hold set actually effects accuracy on this( I really havent played him much for a while), but it Id say accuracy global bonuses do. Also unlike many other PBAE toggles, it doesnt have an auto hit, debuff component.
Besides its low tic rate, also there is the fact if stunned/ held/ slept, as an offensive toggle, it will de-toggle.
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While it doesn't take Acc itself, sets and hamis effect the acc on it.|
Originally Posted by Wooden_Replica
First off CC doesnt accept accuracy the last time I checked( Id have to log on my Rad / Dark Defender to double check). I have no idea if acc from a hold set actually effects accuracy on this( I really havent played him much for a while), but it Id say accuracy global bonuses do. Also unlike many other PBAE toggles, it doesnt have an auto hit, debuff component.
Besides its low tic rate, also there is the fact if stunned/ held/ slept, as an offensive toggle, it will de-toggle. |
Still a waste of a power selection though.
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Reminds me of Dutchrad in RV the other night, going on about how Arctic Air meant he couldn't be AS'd, just before we double AS'd him.
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Originally Posted by ConFlict
I promise if I personally see anyone running cc or woc I will as them repeatedly. And I will say in bcast over and over what a great anti stalker power they are.
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What the OP has in mind, MIGHT work once in a blue moon, but no more reliable than Artic Air does
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Originally Posted by macskull
Reminds me of Dutchrad in RV the other night, going on about how Arctic Air meant he couldn't be AS'd, just before we double AS'd him.
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Artic air is actually a billion times better than cc or woc. Its -stealth is auto hit. Which makes asing people with it on even funnier.
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I like force bubble.
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i like willpower
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Originally Posted by Necromatic
I like force bubble.
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I like asing anyone who likes any of them.
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Enjoy it while it last....cause when going to rogue hits...it's going to lolz stalker.|
Originally Posted by macskull
Reminds me of Dutchrad in RV the other night, going on about how Arctic Air meant he couldn't be AS'd, just before we double AS'd him.
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Forts > Stalkers. I'm just saying.
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only when the stalker's a retard.|
Originally Posted by __Divine__
Forts > Stalkers.
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ie, not mac.
Arctic Air used to be decent at unhiding stalkers (huge PBAoE, autohit, and actual stealth debuff). Of course it also ticked twice as fast as choking cloud. hmm.
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Originally Posted by Frostmarkinsdeadmom
Arctic Air used to be decent at unhiding stalkers (huge PBAoE, autohit, and actual stealth debuff). Of course it also ticked twice as fast as choking cloud. hmm.
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It still does all that.
Duel me.
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Not since they neutered Forts Defense AND Damage, one or the the other would've been fine
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Originally Posted by black_barrier
only when the stalker's a retard.
ie, not mac. |
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Was emping for months and finaly got to play (lol wp) stalker on a match...rolled few AS'es on your team's fort...while that fort desperadely was attacking me..oh snap?|
Originally Posted by __Divine__
Enjoy it while it last....cause when going to rogue hits...it's going to lolz stalker.
Forts > Stalkers. I'm just saying. |
Also, another awesome example: was only stalker on team, other team had a fort who stayed whole match on my precious part:
http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1271504545
Point? Even baddo like me could get kills while being chased by a fort for 10 min straight = i don't think good players would have issues with forts; and if stalker is bad then they would die anyway.
edit: oh snap i just realized on this screen barrier and divine are on same team....HOLY SHHHHIIII...
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the one thing that does depress me about GR, |
Originally Posted by __Divine__
Enjoy it while it last....cause when going to rogue hits...it's going to lolz stalker.
Forts > Stalkers. I'm just saying. |
assuming you have PvP worthy toons on both sides, it is basically pick your poison, do want to deal with Blasters or do you want to deal with Stalkers, after GR it will be dealing with Blasters AND Stalkers no matter which side you play
it's ok guys, -divine is always right.
that's why zero never played stalker after forts were introduced, and why no other arena teams other than GMW, Renegades, UJL, LoLVirtue, Bloodline, Freaks, and DR, Resurrection played stalkers in the i12 ladder.
Waitaminute...
EDIT: I'm trying to find that video on Youtube of a Fort getting AS'd while standing inside Hurricane, but not having any luck.
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did you really screenshot a kb you got 9 kills in to brag? lolwow
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Originally Posted by EnD_Reitanna
Was emping for months and finaly got to play (lol wp) stalker on a match...rolled few AS'es on your team's fort...while that fort desperadely was attacking me..oh snap?
Also, another awesome example: was only stalker on team, other team had a fort who stayed whole match on my precious part: http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1271504545 Point? Even baddo like me could get kills while being chased by a fort for 10 min straight = i don't think good players would have issues with forts; and if stalker is bad then they would die anyway. edit: oh snap i just realized on this screen barrier and divine are on same team....HOLY SHHHHIIII... |
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6685529/3-hot-and-vex-3
nah i screened it cuz it was funny since i had fort the whole match on me :P
couple of people have asked me this now and i couldnt answer, does choking cloud and/or world of confusion suppress hide if it hits the status change or not?