Fix HiberQuit Exploit


Aliona

 

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Originally Posted by Supermax View Post
Unfortunately for you, it doesn't matter what you believe. The issue is caused by how the logout system works in CoH. If you think they are going to completely redesign the game after like 7 years because ONE total person complained about it in those 7 years, you should probably stop thinking that.

This game is FULL of real game-breaking bugs, all of which are ignored for years. This issue is simply meaningless compared to some of the other bugs we have. Learn to deal with it.
The devs can find a solution to an growing number of Hiberqitter Haxx.
Just accepting something flawed, dealing with it and not doing anything about it is not acceptable to me and many other players. We are a community of gamers not a bunch of exploiters.
Many bugs/exploits are fixed years later. Maybe hiberquitting will be fixed soon enough.


 

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Sometimes I get so excited at all the INTENSE pvp action in RV, when I hibe I want to buy the game all over again.

Also there was one guy who had it set up to a bind or macro or something where he would vanish mid spike. Too pr0.

As others have said, your better option is just spend the time to make yourself better where you either :

Actually coordinate your damage better instead of just mindlessly spamming it, hoping to wear them down and get them into hibe so you can camp them.

Learn about projectile speed and which attacks are better suited for actually breaking hibe.

AS someone instead of following them around for 10 minutes and just throwing sharks.

Take a moment to remember who used hibe/phase recently, after they come out/come back go for them during the no phase period.

I've seriously seen maybe 2 or 3 people using this in freedom RV in the past 2 weeks. Its not this widespread exploit that everyone is using. I've also seen those same people end up dead using the above tactics.


 

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Originally Posted by EnD_Reitanna View Post
Dying kind of hurt, cuz
1. you have to rest up
2. you lose eventuall buffs you had (AM, veng etc)
3. If feeding other side kills is my issue, than i deal with it how i want to ( and i choosed to hiber/quit/arena). Also, i would love to see you surviving on cold corr with 1450Hp (for example) vs team of psi/em blasters w/o hiber/phase :P
You lose buffs when you zone into arena aswell.

I also get gitty in RV and when there are like 12 scrappers and a TA surrounding me I just love it so much I try to buy the game allllll over again.


 

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Originally Posted by Aliona View Post
Is HiberQuit annoying? Yes. We chase a squishy around for ten minutes then corner him. Squishy Hibernates. That's fine. Legitimate Power. So, we'll just wait around ice block until he breaks out and give him the old beat down. I mean, he had it coming making us chase him for ten minutes Jeez...But....before he breaks the Log off countdown begins while he is hibernating. Then three seconds into countdown the squishy disappears. Then he reappears seconds later, breaks out of ice block and has a full twenty second PvP countdown and runs to base. I don't like this ! ! LOL

Please Fix the HiberQuit Exploit.

Thank you....
Or maybe you should pick on someone that has a chance of defeating you rather than beating down someone that apparently can't defeat you?

In my experience in PvP Zones often times those that are nigh-invulnerable won't fight with others that are in the same position. It appears that they would rather "beat down" those that have no chance of defeating them.

It seems like a very good balance to allow those that have no chance of defending themselves - let alone defeat their opponent - to get away.

It's a risk versus rewards issue.
Obviously, some PvP toons have "very little risk to no risk" to gain their rewards.
Other PvP toons have "little to no chance of been anything more than rewards for other players" (aka "they are all risk and no reward").

If you want to drive even more players from PvP, then fix this "exploit". I think there are hundreds more exploits that need to be looked at and fixed before this one - that includes others exploits in PvP zones.


 

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Originally Posted by The_Alt_oholic View Post
Or maybe you should pick on someone that has a chance of defeating you rather than beating down someone that apparently can't defeat you?

In my experience in PvP Zones often times those that are nigh-invulnerable won't fight with others that are in the same position. It appears that they would rather "beat down" those that have no chance of defeating them.

It seems like a very good balance to allow those that have no chance of defending themselves - let alone defeat their opponent - to get away.

It's a risk versus rewards issue.
Obviously, some PvP toons have "very little risk to no risk" to gain their rewards.
Other PvP toons have "little to no chance of been anything more than rewards for other players" (aka "they are all risk and no reward").

If you want to drive even more players from PvP, then fix this "exploit". I think there are hundreds more exploits that need to be looked at and fixed before this one - that includes others exploits in PvP zones.
I don't normally agree with Alt Holic...but this make sense. lol


 

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Originally Posted by Aliona View Post
The devs can find a solution to an growing number of Hiberqitter Haxx.
It's really not growing. I haven't seen it a single time, personally.

What about this: A person in hibernate uses a 2nd account to recall friend himself the split second he comes out of hiber. Yes, it's easily done with accurate timing.

Is that an exploit too? Because the result is exactly the same as logging out. The person gets away with 0 chance of death. So it's an exploit?


 

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Originally Posted by _Lith_ View Post
Definition-

Exploit: It hurts my feelings.

man that explains a lot...


 

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Originally Posted by JKwervo View Post
Hibercamping is also a "cheap" tactic.
My stormie is so


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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Originally Posted by Aliona View Post
Hibernate being used to cheat some one out of their defeat.
If it takes you 10 mins to get someone to hiber, you're cheating yourself out of a ton more kills than they are.


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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This is a legitimate tactic, if you can't kill them before they hibernate nobody to blame but yourself, I would highly suggest keep this implemented in the game.

-unicornmagic


 

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The OP is crazy lucky. I could never just bang my face on a keyboard and come up with whole words, much less grammatically correct sentences. Yet this person seems to do it on every post. Remarkable.


 

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Originally Posted by Supermax View Post
It's really not growing. I haven't seen it a single time, personally.

What about this: A person in hibernate uses a 2nd account to recall friend himself the split second he comes out of hiber. Yes, it's easily done with accurate timing.

Is that an exploit too? Because the result is exactly the same as logging out. The person gets away with 0 chance of death. So it's an exploit?
No, it is not an exploit...The powers are used as intended.
It's just a guy TPing himself. A lot of players have two accounts and like to have an Emp on one and a Blaster on the other. That's totally legitimate game-play in my book.


 

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They should make it work like phase shift, where if an opponent logs out, then you can log out, and beat their *** on the login screen.


 

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Originally Posted by pixel View Post
they should make it work like phase shift, where if an opponent logs out, then you can log out, and beat their *** on the login screen.
rofl


 

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Originally Posted by JKwervo View Post
Gotta love Wisconsin highway signs.

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Originally Posted by MrLiberty View Post
Also there was one guy who had it set up to a bind or macro or something
I tried this for ***** and giggles, but all I ended up doing was discovering a new way to crash the game.

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Originally Posted by The_Alt_oholic View Post
I think there are hundreds more exploits that need to be looked at and fixed before this one - that includes others exploits in PvP zones.
You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you? Just because you sit at the computer day in and day out looking for threads with the word "exploit" in them so you can make some stupid self-righteous comment doesn't by any means make you an expert (or even slightly knowledgeable) on the matter.

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No, it is not an exploit...The powers are used as intended.
It's just a guy TPing himself. A lot of players have two accounts and like to have an Emp on one and a Blaster on the other. That's totally legitimate game-play in my book.
So one way of escaping a bad situation without using an exploit is okay, but another way of escaping the same situation without using an exploit is not okay? I like these arbitrary rules you're setting up here.


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Originally Posted by Pixel View Post
They should make it work like phase shift, where if an opponent logs out, then you can log out, and beat their *** on the login screen.
ok, this was really funny.


 

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Aliona did you try sending him a message telling him he was a noob?
if that didn't work did you try calling him a noob in broadcast?

if neither of those work, well I'm fresh out of ideas.


 

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Originally Posted by macskull View Post
Gotta love Wisconsin highway signs.


So one way of escaping a bad situation without using an exploit is okay, but another way of escaping the same situation without using an exploit is not okay? I like these arbitrary rules you're setting up here.

Yes, the double account to escape a bad situation is legit.
Using HiberQuit to leave the game and get a fresh 20 second countdown with unrestricted movement to escape your **** beating is an exploit.


 

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Originally Posted by aliona View Post
yes, the double account to escape a bad situation is legit.
Using hiberquit to leave the game and get a fresh 20 second countdown with unrestricted movement to escape your **** beating is an exploit.
lol


 

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Originally Posted by Aliona View Post
Yes, the double account to escape a bad situation is legit.
Using HiberQuit to leave the game and get a fresh 20 second countdown with unrestricted movement to escape your **** beating is an exploit.
Because getting teleported back to your base and staying there for 20 seconds before coming back out is any different at all? You know, it's funny - this wouldn't even be an issue if travel suppression and heal decay didn't exist.


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The other day Hot Heals Hyber quit. That is the one and only time I have ever noticed anyone do that. Pretty sure this doesn't happen enough to really warrant all this crying. Either way though its a legal tactic and not an exploit. Get over it.


 

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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm View Post
People who use Hibernate to escape are noobs.
Actually they're the opposite.

Hibernate & Phase have always been staple tools used by high end PVPers.

If someone is complaining about hibernate/phase then they are 100% likely to be a noob.


 

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Whats funnier then hiberquit is the kids that go out and buy the temp phase to click out of hiber... Try hards. Ban sturdies, they ruin droning. Also I think if you hiber next to someone you should be able to attack them since itd be like 1 block of ice. And I really like the idea of fighting it out on the log in screen, this has true potential.


 

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Originally Posted by Pixel View Post
They should make it work like phase shift, where if an opponent logs out, then you can log out, and beat their *** on the login screen.
This is some funny sh*t.




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