Eternal P A I N vs. Can I Get A Lock? (4/11)


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Originally Posted by Johnnykat View Post
Would I appreciate Leeway - sure, like about 14 secs worth. Leeways continually only seem to work in one direction and so far from what I have seen, the teams with the most PvPEC reps. Not trying to ruffle feathers, just my personal experience with this league endeavor.

If our captains call for a forfeit, I would support that move definitely.

But I do appreciate the advice on waiting until after the matches for questions - trying to quickly resolve an issue during a match while hoping to avoid a retaliation/counter forfiet/DQ call for delay of game does make sense (especially with how fickle rule calls and interpretations have been made lately). In the future, I'll just post comments directly to the capts or send you an offline PM and avoid future wall posts here as posting here seems to only fuel fires and never resolve anything.
You seem to have some huge beef when it comes to the PVPEC in this league. Perhaps if you took some of the effort you put in to griping about the PVPEC all the time in to actually reading the rules you would see that they are written and enforced in such a way that PVPEC reps can't get special treatment. There are exactly 2 teams with PVPEC reps on them. I don't care how hard we try 2 does not equal majority when it comes to a vote. Peril doesn't even get a vote. I am the only person in this league that is a PVPEC rep that gets a vote. 1 vote makes it pretty impossible to get favortism.


 

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Originally Posted by CriticalKat View Post
P.s.

QQ

Kat has used up her yearly allowance of the phrase "QQ".

Let this not be stricken from the record.


 

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Originally Posted by __Divine__ View Post
The matches we seen yall rofflestomped them...and yall refused to fite us last night...we asked you several times.
Making these ridiculously stupid posts of "YEAH WE ROFLSTOMPED THEM HAHAHAHAHA" On a public forum shows several things.

1) Being a respectful competitor is something you have no interest in. All you really care about is running your silly little mouth and trying to make yourself seem big when in all reality, no one really cares what you have to say.

Like seriously, who would want to take you seriously or even practice with you when you're talking all this stupid garbage in a public forum (and arena chat).

"Yeah man that one time we fought RAFTW, we were totally like roflstomping them it was terribad!!bahahahah" (but a week later we lost to their jump team)

2) Either way, bringing up previous non-official matches to further inflate your somewhat little ego is bad form. Not only does it go against your constant notion of "I really don't care what anyone says", it further shows your blatant stupidity and very limited IQ. Provoking other players with your nonsensical comments is a sure way to singling yourself (and your team) out of getting practice matches with other teams.

Please sir kindly refrain from typing on that keyboard and save us the time and energy of reading your garbage.

Like I take Frost Elf D more seriously, and that's saying a lot.


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Originally Posted by CriticalKat View Post
Those matches were not the jump team, we were testing out some other stuff. And you didn't see them.

As for you killing my tank one time. First of all it wasn't an official. Second of all I have never in my entire pvp career died 14 times in one match. Ever. Never. Even if I was afk rubbing one out I couldn't die 14 times in one match like you did. Perhaps I should get pff on my tank so I don't have to worry about learning how to evade


 

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This league needs more lawyers and braggarts, good luck with season 2, teams that are staying.


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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oh yeah, and this:


It's about who rules the rules.
It's about who rules the rules with the loots.
Everything else is the farms and the phase.
And, o, the loot.


 

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man, our predictions were right: tl:tr's


 

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Originally Posted by Johnnykat View Post

Two things:

1) "All matches will take place in Pocket D, Freedom Server."

- What's the point of stating this if it doesn't apply/imply to all players playing in a specific league match to be present in PD?
Based on what i heard in vent they where all in pocket d so this is really a moot argument. That wording is very open and we where always careful of that on bobc/inoann as you know. CK's team was the same last night they did all go to pocket d.

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2) "Each team is allowed one reset within 60 seconds of round start if a player did not load into the round, disconnected or loaded in off-team. Teams will play man down if required after their reset is spent. If a round is reset, the line-ups submitted for that round are to be played again with no alterations on the same map." AND "Only one player's account may be in a match at any given time."

I think you are misunderstanding the latter rule you mentioned; that is regarding people with 2 accounts, meaning for example both of my accounts can not be in a match together. It has nothing to do with line ups which are a generalization a psi/em blaster played by player x or y doesn't matter as long as it is a psi/em blaster. Though i think i could see how you could misread that. Also that particular reset was due to the match being set up wrong 20 min long instead of 10 min.

One other thing, no matter what the actual circumstances what you where calling a reset for was not a valid reason for reset (as per rules). The real option you had would be to call for a DQ or pointed it out before starting. As i just typed that i can't help think there is so much irony in this situation. *sigh*

Just trying to clarify in a non emotional way, so tired of all the arguments and drama. Hope that helps



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Crawling in my skin
These wounds they will not heaaaaaaaal


 

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I don't think I can come back to this game, apparently while I was gone everyone syarted taking this shiz seriously. I'm almost in favor of i13 round 2 at this point because everyone looks stupid in these posts.


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Originally Posted by black_barrier View Post

It's about who rules the rules.
It's about who rules the rules with the loots.
Everything else is the farms and the phase.
And, o, the loot.
This. Almost entirely.


 

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Originally Posted by Emo_Bitter View Post
I don't think I can come back to this game, apparently while I was gone everyone syarted taking this shiz seriously. I'm almost in favor of i13 round 2 at this point because everyone looks stupid in these posts.
you had functionally quit already though.


 

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Originally Posted by Phillygirl View Post

... One other thing, no matter what the actual circumstances what you where calling a reset for was not a valid reason for reset (as per rules). The real option you had would be to call for a DQ or pointed it out before starting. As i just typed that i can't help think there is so much irony in this situation. *sigh*

Just trying to clarify in a non emotional way, so tired of all the arguments and drama. Hope that helps
Hence why I was trying to get Kats attention ASAP before we essentially felt pressured to restart that first match. When you have people in Event Chat on the opposing team saying it's OK if we do this or it's OK to do that because the rules state as such...I'm sorry but after all the rule BS from the previous DQ event, I was trying to get an official response BEFORE we jumped back in...

Honestly, if an opposing team feels the need to hide in the tailor section of PD or another area of PD, that's just another lame way to exploit the time limit of when a match should start. Each time I was attempting to quickly resolve our original issues, there was the constant threat of DQ because of delay of game. So again, trying to say how this could of been originally handle BEFORE the match when my PM was either missed or ignored and then having to check on line-ups is more or less insulting.

So yeah, Philly, this had nothing to do with you nor were you playing during these matches in question...so I am not sure what you are bringing to the table with this?

As for CKat avoiding my questions directly and trying to steer the discussion into some broad generalization that I just have issues with the PvPEC is unfortunate. Do I think there is bias, yes...and as I stated before it is based on my experience with the teams I have been on. If you are going to continually take offense to that, then I suggest you stop trying to act like one of the little cool kids with cute little frog pics to try hard with fitting in.

Anyways, since I am technically not a captain and it keeps being put in my face as such - I'll just stop wasting my time with attempts for a reasonable discussion.

My last two cents on this:

1) I'll support the motion for our team capts to call for a forfeit in match one after the player change.

2) DQ on third match for line-up error.

I would care less about any of the above two issues and simply just play, but when rule calls get "leeway" and others over-looked, I may as well support the above.



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Originally Posted by Emo_Bitter View Post
I don't think I can come back to this game, apparently while I was gone everyone syarted taking this shiz seriously. I'm almost in favor of i13 round 2 at this point because everyone looks stupid in these posts.
Agreed.



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Originally Posted by black_barrier View Post
1) GG, you can't forfeit on a match that was played already. Wut noub.
2) Talk to -Divine Syndrome, he approved the line-up before the match, since basically our full team was prepared to take a DQ and walk out if he didn't. Divine's an idiot. No news. oh and kat, me and forst eld h have screenshots that prove he approved the lineup correction (not change, correction).

Communication on your team seems to be lacking.
Badly.

Also lol @ the pocket D issue, you were the only ones delaying the match because of that, and furthermore everyone in my team was in pocket d. using /hide has been a common practice ever since the original ladder. you're a retarded noub for making a fuss over it. +it all sounds to me like someone wanted to be able to /search targets (if that even works anymore) in the sea of mm pets.

johnnykat, do you have downs syndrome?
My point about the PD issue is why have arbitrary rules if they can be easily exploited. As for why I have been more active in posting lately, after being bounced around from team to team and making assumptions on my part about fair play and rulings and lack of communication not just on my current team but previous ones and league rulings...I felt I may as well speak up. It simply reinforces why I should of taken the route many of my friends chose at the beginning with backing out do to conflicts with schedules and/or rules. Had I been captaining the original group I intended to bring to the league, I could of taken a more proactive approach and avoided the majority of this drama and wasting my time on forum volleys.

I must have downs though for replying to a troll. Time to download some frog, whale, and twinkie trading cards now - ready to play when you are Barrier.



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So yeah, Philly, this had nothing to do with you nor were you playing during these matches in question...so I am not sure what you are bringing to the table with this?
*sigh* that was exactly my point this has nothing to do with me so i was trying to point out 2 things in your post in a non argumentative non name calling way. Sice you basicly just said butt out i will and allow for 3 more pages of back and forth name calling.



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No rules were broken. I was there and didnt have a match, not to mention I talked to kat before and after the matches.


 

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Originally Posted by black_barrier View Post
gj side-stepping all the points enumerated in my post.
-divine syndrome has taught you well.
I hear its contagious, I hope you were vacinated before your matches.


 

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Originally Posted by Johnnykat View Post
Hence why I was trying to get Kats attention ASAP before we essentially felt pressured to restart that first match. When you have people in Event Chat on the opposing team saying it's OK if we do this or it's OK to do that because the rules state as such...I'm sorry but after all the rule BS from the previous DQ event, I was trying to get an official response BEFORE we jumped back in...

Honestly, if an opposing team feels the need to hide in the tailor section of PD or another area of PD, that's just another lame way to exploit the time limit of when a match should start. Each time I was attempting to quickly resolve our original issues, there was the constant threat of DQ because of delay of game. So again, trying to say how this could of been originally handle BEFORE the match when my PM was either missed or ignored and then having to check on line-ups is more or less insulting.

So yeah, Philly, this had nothing to do with you nor were you playing during these matches in question...so I am not sure what you are bringing to the table with this?

As for CKat avoiding my questions directly and trying to steer the discussion into some broad generalization that I just have issues with the PvPEC is unfortunate. Do I think there is bias, yes...and as I stated before it is based on my experience with the teams I have been on. If you are going to continually take offense to that, then I suggest you stop trying to act like one of the little cool kids with cute little frog pics to try hard with fitting in.

Anyways, since I am technically not a captain and it keeps being put in my face as such - I'll just stop wasting my time with attempts for a reasonable discussion.

My last two cents on this:

1) I'll support the motion for our team capts to call for a forfeit in match one after the player change.

2) DQ on third match for line-up error.

I would care less about any of the above two issues and simply just play, but when rule calls get "leeway" and others over-looked, I may as well support the above.
Not sure why you think using a feature of the game we all pay for "hide"
is some how wrong. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

Which of your questions did I avoid? I did a very tldr post explaining why the rules were written that way and why things happened the way they did. I also talked to you on vent yesterday. Honestly not to be insulting but I feel like I am typing English but you are reading it in Chinese or something.

I guess I will do another Tldr post for you and hope you can get it.

Constant threat of Dq issue- it was Divine who stated in arena chat for everyone to see that our time was up and we had 5 minutes. I responded that we were taking our 5 minute leeway. Which we did. The threat of dq came from your team captain, not me.

Last match lineup issue-- It was a copy and paste problem. Somehow the "P" on emp didn't make it in the posted lineup. You guys made some huge ordeal out of it. Your perogattive. Did you ask your Captain why he went ahead and approved the lineup correction if he felt like he had us in "forfeit" status? I will tell you why. Because he was at the same Captains meeting where we ALL agreed to not be JERKS about simple typo lineup mistakes. ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO EMPATHS. He knew he didn't stand a chance in hell of getting the majority of Captains to support a forfeit call over one letter. For crying out loud the "P" was missing in emp.

You are the person who sat on these forums and typed multiple tldr posts last week that our rules should allow for flexibility for mistakes. Then you turn around the week after that and have a cow over the letter "P"?

-- As for the reset in the first match. Common sense should have told you that if I didn't answer you or if my team wasn't answering your questions properly to play the freaking match, screenshot whatever proof you thought you had and then call for a dq. Instead a couple minutes in to the match you say "reset" over and over in broadcast and offered absolutely NO EXPLANATION OF WHY. Somehow I am at fault for not resetting just because you asked for it?

So the short version is my team broke no rules. Your Captain knows that. The same thing my team did in the first match is the same thing several teams have done and the rules allow for it. Sorry if the rules do not fit what you want. They are not designed to make you happy. They are designed to fit the needs of the League overall in every situation. If they don't do that we have 6 Captains that vote on any and everything that needs to be voted on. Have your Captain make a motion and they will vote.

Now I worked my butt off and went through a lot of crap to get our rules changed last week to be a little more fair and concise for everyone. I personally seeked out votes to make it where the PVPEC no longer has control or decision making ability in regards to rules violations. I posted as much. Every Captain knows as much. Why you still feel the need to try to play the "favortism" card is beyond me.

Also why you have a problem with me posting king tree frog pics to congratulate Barrier on his win of the personal challenge that your Captain put out there is beyond me. You do realize the whole tree frog thing came as an attempt of an insult from your Captain? As far as the twinky thing that is your team with that BS not me or mine. As far as the whale thing take that crap up with Barrier, I don't have control over him nor am I responsible for his posts.


 

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the nice thing about this league is that it has turned everyone into psypunk style posters


 

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Not sure why you think using a feature of the game we all pay for "hide"
is some how wrong. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

Which of your questions did I avoid? I did a very tldr post explaining why the rules were written that way and why things happened the way they did. I also talked to you on vent yesterday. Honestly not to be insulting but I feel like I am typing English but you are reading it in Chinese or something.

I guess I will do another Tldr post for you and hope you can get it.

Constant threat of Dq issue- it was Divine who stated in arena chat for everyone to see that our time was up and we had 5 minutes. I responded that we were taking our 5 minute leeway. Which we did. The threat of dq came from your team captain, not me.

Last match lineup issue-- It was a copy and paste problem. Somehow the "P" on emp didn't make it in the posted lineup. You guys made some huge ordeal out of it. Your perogattive. Did you ask your Captain why he went ahead and approved the lineup correction if he felt like he had us in "forfeit" status? I will tell you why. Because he was at the same Captains meeting where we ALL agreed to not be JERKS about simple typo lineup mistakes. ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO EMPATHS. He knew he didn't stand a chance in hell of getting the majority of Captains to support a forfeit call over one letter. For crying out loud the "P" was missing in emp.

You are the person who sat on these forums and typed multiple tldr posts last week that our rules should allow for flexibility for mistakes. Then you turn around the week after that and have a cow over the letter "P"?

-- As for the reset in the first match. Common sense should have told you that if I didn't answer you or if my team wasn't answering your questions properly to play the freaking match, screenshot whatever proof you thought you had and then call for a dq. Instead a couple minutes in to the match you say "reset" over and over in broadcast and offered absolutely NO EXPLANATION OF WHY. Somehow I am at fault for not resetting just because you asked for it?

So the short version is my team broke no rules. Your Captain knows that. The same thing my team did in the first match is the same thing several teams have done and the rules allow for it. Sorry if the rules do not fit what you want. They are not designed to make you happy. They are designed to fit the needs of the League overall in every situation. If they don't do that we have 6 Captains that vote on any and everything that needs to be voted on. Have your Captain make a motion and they will vote.

Now I worked my butt off and went through a lot of crap to get our rules changed last week to be a little more fair and concise for everyone. I personally seeked out votes to make it where the PVPEC no longer has control or decision making ability in regards to rules violations. I posted as much. Every Captain knows as much. Why you still feel the need to try to play the "favortism" card is beyond me.

Also why me posting king tree frog pics to congratulate Barrier on his win of the personal challenge that your Captain put out there is beyond me. You do realize the whole tree frog thing came as an attempt of an insult from your Captain? As far as the twinky thing that is your team with that BS not me or mine. As far as the whale thing take that crap up with Barrier, I don't have control over him nor am I responsible for his posts.

You have 5 captains now - not 6

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"Because he was at the same Captains meeting where we ALL agreed to not be JERKS about simple typo lineup mistakes"

ex post facto is full of win!


 

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All I is say be best on ur fame Tursday win fight you team. We at haz supre sekrit lionup to release make cry leik baybe jiglipouf!


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Originally Posted by RoboBug View Post
the nice thing about this league is that it has turned everyone into psypunk style posters

nothing so far..has been as epic as a psy post..


 

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nothing will ever compare to his 6 figure income and touring band and Goldies response... but in pure length, people are trying.