A Question about PvPIO Values
By
Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-04-05 04:46 in The Market and Inventions
They are under no obligation to tell us the prices for which things have been sold/bought. Would it be nice to know? Sure, but I don't expect that they would necessarily tell us.
What things go truly go for is really based on how much a buyer may want something, how impatient the seller is in getting rid of her inventory and how much actual inf is on hand. Some people will demand outrageous prices, while others may be much more modest in their offerings.
I will tell you that I sold a Gladiator 3% PvP IO on Virtue about a week or so ago off market. I sold it to an in-game friend for 2.5B, which is well below what I'm certain I could sell it for. I also know of a player on Virtue who still may have two of these on hand; however, I don't think you'll even get in the door without bringing *at least* 4B.
Of the transactions I've seen personally, the redside glad unique goes for 1.5-4 bill and the blueside one goes for 2-5 bill. This is only transactions I know of for certain. I've heard secondhand about others.
gimmie 3 bilion and ill give ya the pancea + hp as a enhancment...yes im serious
if you want any of the pancea's your gonna pay through the nose..im seriously serious..no joke.
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The Panacea proc is ridiculously overrated - I have no idea why people pay as much as they do for a proc that is worse than the Performance Shifter proc.
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Originally Posted by Severe
gimmie 3 bilion and ill give ya the pancea + hp as a enhancment...yes im serious
if you want any of the pancea's your gonna pay through the nose..im seriously serious..no joke. |
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Originally Posted by macskull
The Panacea proc is ridiculously overrated - I have no idea why people pay as much as they do for a proc that is worse than the Performance Shifter proc.
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In all seriousness though, I wouldn't part with the one I've got. I'm quite happy having it slotted into Physical Perfection alongside a +End and +/+. For a PvP toon, every little bit helps, heh.
Kind of an idiot's question, but rather than how much do they go for, I'm curious on the logistics of the trade itself. Since the inf cap is 2b, mechanically how is the trade performed?
Who takes the bigger risk of getting scammed the IO holder or the inf holder? What I mean is, if Person A has the IO, and Person B has 4b inf. B can give A 2 Bil in return for nothing. Then the other 2 bil in return for the IO. This means B is at risk of A walking away with the first 2 bil. Or 2 bil in trade for the IO, then the other 2 bil for nothing. This puts A at risk B will walk away getting the IO at half price. Or you could add in other multi-hundred inf IOs as collateral.
So, mechanically, how does a "more than 2b inf" trade happen?
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There's always some risk, of course, but if you trade the IO for 2Bn in a first step you already have more than you could get from WW (because WW takes 10%). I haven't done it before, but I think I would give away the IO in the first exchange and simply trust that the other person pays the price that we agreed on.
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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade
Kind of an idiot's question, but rather than how much do they go for, I'm curious on the logistics of the trade itself. Since the inf cap is 2b, mechanically how is the trade performed?
Who takes the bigger risk of getting scammed the IO holder or the inf holder? What I mean is, if Person A has the IO, and Person B has 4b inf. B can give A 2 Bil in return for nothing. Then the other 2 bil in return for the IO. This means B is at risk of A walking away with the first 2 bil. Or 2 bil in trade for the IO, then the other 2 bil for nothing. This puts A at risk B will walk away getting the IO at half price. Or you could add in other multi-hundred inf IOs as collateral. So, mechanically, how does a "more than 2b inf" trade happen? |
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Originally Posted by Myriad
There's always some risk, of course, but if you trade the IO for 2Bn in a first step you already have more than you could get from WW (because WW takes 10%). I haven't done it before, but I think I would give away the IO in the first exchange and simply trust that the other person pays the price that we agreed on.
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Indeed. Trust would the issue at hand. And the person who's being trusted to come back with the excess Inf past the cap probably would have to realize that he/she could get mentioned here as an untrustworthy trader if they didn't complete the trade in full. I know it wouldn't amount to much, but still...
In my case though, I doubt I would ever bother with off-market sales for anything, whether I'm buying or selling. Anything going for more than the Inf cap is just ludicrous if you ask me, and I'd happily settle for market value at the WW/BM. Then again, its not like I need to sell an IO for 5bil or something. 2bil is enough, and if I happen to need 3bil more for a build or two, then I'll just go out and earn it or sell some more stuff.
There could also be a an element of barter involved.
The other possibility is using a trusted 3rd party to act an an escrow agent. Of course this shifts the trust onto a third party but in same cases that can be sensible. I recall that back in the day someone (Smurphy maybe?) used to do that for cross-server and cross-faction trades in part to encourage more competition in that area.
I'm noticing people selling PvPIOs such as the [Panacea +/+] and [Gladiator's Armor +Res TP, 3% Def All] on the forums here, but lately no one comes back and says what they went for.
I've heard of these going for 5-10 Billion, but realistically, how much could one expect to bring in with one of these on Redside, Blueside? Are there other ones out there that are "Jackpot" scores as well?
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