Remove LRSF requirement for accolade

Yes, but there are OTHER requirements for villains. This is all about equity in when you can actually get the accolades in your characters' careers. 35-45 can be a bit of a long time.

What is? The MINIMUM level for attainment.

who really cares. again, there are 2 accolades on villians that require you to do 2 of the sf's. hero side you have to run the original 6 tf's to get 1 accolade. your complaints and whines will get you nothing. infact all of your suppossed suggestions and ideas have not been suggestions and ideas but complaints and whines. and i'm running out of cheese so all you're going to get is crumbs.

Yes, but running the TFs is also a great leveling tool. TFC is very easy to get, and you get that at 35 minimum.

give one valid reason other than "whine whine whine" that this needs to happen. i have no problem ever getting on an LRSF to get the accolade.

as for this statement:
this is an outright lie.

45 > 35

So a single example makes your case for all of the accolades?

I'm with sharker for this one man.... You only have to run 2 SFs compared to Six TFs and the SFs are all shorter than Posi or synapse. So lvl 45 minimum is the trade off for easier TFs to get the accolade. It sounds pretty fair to the rest of us ;P

If you didn't know, Villains have OTHER requirements for badges, including the most annoying of all: Mayhem exploration badges.

mayhem exploration badges are the easiest to get. again, your whines mean nothing. all you are doing when you make a post is doing it to hear yourself type. since that is the case, open up word and go to town. but DO NOT post any of it here.

You can't go back and get a missed badge easily.

it's not. plain and simple.

as for this:
yes you can. i have had no problem doing it at all. this is where the chat channels are your friends. of course, if you whine in game like you do here, then YOU might have a problem.

Sharker -

I said it in the other thread. I don't care if you don't like the OP. But this sort of post doesn't help.

Now, comparing the two accolades - for 5% extra END:
Villainside:
Two explorations and a history, that can be done solo.
A defeat, that can be done solo.
An accomplishment that can be done solo.
An Achivement - that requires a SF.

Heroside:

Exploration, that can be done solo.
History, that can be done solo.
Accomplishment, that can be done solo.
Two defeats, that can be done solo (and typically will be reached through normal gameplay.)

Yes, that seems like a disparity there. Honestly, I don't think I've ever *done* an LRSF. I can completely understand the idea that equivalent rewards should be given equivalent tasks.

There is also historical precedent - Born in Battle used to have a requirement to spend five hours in a PVP zone. No heroside accolade required exposure to PVP for so long - and with them moving the liasons out of the PVP zones, the developers had shown they understood some people didn't like dealing with PVP. The friction over the requirements for that badge (especially when they were *broken* for so long and not awarding properly for time in zone) led to them removing that requirement. (Still requires going in for an exploration and history badge, but given the limited number of zones redside overall, that requirement's nowhere near as onerous.)

Accolades have been reduced to more-equitable requirements before. This is not a request from out in left field.

As far as Task Force Commander - That, really, I don't agree with. It's for running task forces. The requirements are the same, even if the levels aren't.

See my Guides and Tutorials

bill, before you and i get into it, the OP is a whiner. how about task force commander? can't do that at all solo, well you can but it would be very time consumming. and the villian equivolent can be done solo. so each side has at least one accolade that has to be done with a team. big deal.

again, no problem with you at all bill. it is the way the OP comes and complains and whines and wants things just handed to him that we have a problem with. and sugar coating an answer to that type of poster teaches them nothing. he needs to learn to stop complaining and whining and make an actual suggestion the way that they should be presented.

Lies.

I did it last night on my main villain rebuild. I had missed the Steel Canyon mayhem mission.

Grabbed my brother's level 24 villain, ran a few paper missions, got the SC mayhem, got the badge on my level 50, got the invader accolade. No problem.

If I hadn't had my brother's villain, I would have requested help in my server's badge channel and gotten it that way.

By the by, last night while doing RL work, I ran that villain around for a few short hours and picked up 4 buff accolades.

Are the defeat badges still annoying? Hell yea. Was it difficult? Hell no.

Your request is silly.

And yet we have people complementing Power_NA on his improved posting, with his own history. If you have problems with the idea, then go after the idea on its own merits or lack of them. If you have problems with the poster, deal with them in PMs or put them on ignore.

These are not ongoing arguments on the same thing. The OP has every right to come in and say "Hey, it'd be nice to see this changed." Not much he's said has deserved the type of replies he's gotten - especially from you, I have to be honest and say. I've said before, I'm not the OP's biggest fan, but the reaction he's been getting is *way* out of line for some of these ideas. (Really? Did he have to be attacked for asking to have a line or two of *text* added? Really now? Step back and think about it.)

Task Force Commander tells its requirements flat out in its name - it requires task forces. It's fully appropriate. Requirements hero-vs-villainside have been out of whack in many instances from the start. Some have been fixed (see prior mention of removing Raider, as well as reductions in some requirements - like going from paying 1.2 million debt down to 200,000... which itself may be a bit of a stretch with patrol XP, debt reduction, etc. but is far more obtainable.)

With several of the suggestions made, I haven't seen a whine. A complaint? Sure. Then again, I've started several of *my* suggestions with a complaint. ("I tried doing X, only to find Y. This is irritating. How about this to fix it?")
Even when he has, he's been attacked. And I have to say some of them seem to be done specifically to attack the poster, with the suggestion not given reasonable consideration - even when the suggestion itself is reasonable in definition, presentation, scope and the work it would take to accomplish.

There's a difference between not sugar coating an answer and attacking them. You can be blunt and straightforward without being rude or getting personal.

For instance, in this very thread:

Look at your answer. You've got a *little* bit of a counter there, and a lot of attack. Now, blunt without getting personal?

"You can get a missed mayhem badge without much effort. No, you can't get them through Ouroboros, but:
- Are you in a Supergroup? Let them know you need X Mayhem exploration badge, hop in and get it.
- You're on the forums. Go down a bit to your server's forum and tell people you're trying for the accolade and need X mayhems.
- Tell the people on your friends/global friends list what you're going after. Ask them to let you know if/when they're running those."

Absolutely no need to get personal or "get into it" with the OP. He gets incorrect information corrected, and... well, I'll be blunt here as well, you don't look like an *** presenting it that way. Which means - useless "forum rep game" aside - people will be more likely to take you seriously in the future as well, instead of being seen as an "attack dog."

(Edit: Compare to your ouro reply to the same OP:
Correct information, and couldn't really be seen as an attack. A little smartalecky, but in a good way.
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It's something I'm saying from personal experience.

See my Guides and Tutorials

Completely off topic, but M_B speaks the truth. There have been players banned from the forums for deciding to be attack dogs. Satan knows I've had my share of modsmacks for it.

In the end, it's not worth it. If you find someone on the forums that annoys you every time you see them post, use ignore.

Too bad that you still see that "you are ignoring this user" thing instead of nothing at all, but at least it keeps you from having to read their spew.