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Claws/Fire

Hejtmane

By Hejtmane,
Posted on: 2010-03-30 09:21 in Scrappers

 

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I have a friend that has a claws scrapper and is now lvl 50. She has asked me to help her with her build using I/O's, however I know jack crap about scrappers! sooo I am hoping you all could show me some build concepts that will help her out.

I always play a blaster, and she mainly teams with me (PVE Only for now)

 

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Originally Posted by Ravenous33 View Post
I have a friend that has a claws scrapper and is now lvl 50. She has asked me to help her with her build using I/O's, however I know jack crap about scrappers! sooo I am hoping you all could show me some build concepts that will help her out.

I always play a blaster, and she mainly teams with me (PVE Only for now)
What type of budget are we talking we can get pretty crazy on the boards you know like 8-10 billion dollar builds easy

Merits help too with some of the things so that will help in us getting you a functional build and maybe something to build towards s you get a bigger budget. Then the next question what is your plan farming only, teaming only, AV's mainly as a duo a hybrid of both

Plans can be set to maximize what you are trying to do

Pinnacle
Langar Thurs-Katana/SR 50; Hejtmane-DM/DA 50
Rogue Spear-Spines/DA 50; Hypnosis-Ill/Rad 50
Sir Thomas Theroux-DM/SR 50; Melted Copper-Fire/Shield 50
Byzantine Warrior-DB/ELA 50;Blade Tempo-50 DB/EA

 

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Budget, lets say 1 bill limit. Between the two of us we also have about 1000 merits sooo not to worried.

All and all just a functional build with some good sets, we mainly play in a small party Her and I, and sometimes a bit bigger. I do not forsee us doing any AV"s just us two anytime soon.

I wouldnt have asked, but I have only ever seen one claws/fire build posted and would like to show her a few and see, and inturn learn a bit more about scrappers myself (12 months and I have only really played blasters)

 

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Originally Posted by Ravenous33 View Post
Budget, lets say 1 bill limit. Between the two of us we also have about 1000 merits sooo not to worried.

All and all just a functional build with some good sets, we mainly play in a small party Her and I, and sometimes a bit bigger. I do not forsee us doing any AV"s just us two anytime soon.

I wouldnt have asked, but I have only ever seen one claws/fire build posted and would like to show her a few and see, and inturn learn a bit more about scrappers myself (12 months and I have only really played blasters)
That helps I am no expert on those two sets but I bet we can help come up with several routes you can go

Pinnacle
Langar Thurs-Katana/SR 50; Hejtmane-DM/DA 50
Rogue Spear-Spines/DA 50; Hypnosis-Ill/Rad 50
Sir Thomas Theroux-DM/SR 50; Melted Copper-Fire/Shield 50
Byzantine Warrior-DB/ELA 50;Blade Tempo-50 DB/EA

 

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Originally Posted by Hejtmane View Post
That helps I am no expert on those two sets but I bet we can help come up with several routes you can go
Thanks, I really look forward to seeing a few differnt idea's and going over them with her.

 

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I can speak towards fire armor for PvE-

Needed-
Fire shield
healing flames
plasma shield
fiery embrace

Good for PvE-
blazing aura
consume
Burn

Up to You-
Temp protection
ROTP

I am PL in RL.

Freedom- Magnet Man, Hott Sauce, Stand-Up Comic

 

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Originally Posted by Sinistar6000 View Post
I can speak towards fire armor for PvE-

Needed-
Fire shield
healing flames
plasma shield
fiery embrace

Good for PvE-
blazing aura
consume
Burn

Up to You-
Temp protection
ROTP
Well she did take all of those and ROTP she is really wanting to dabble with Set I/O's and there is only ONE build that I saw posted on the entire scrapper section. Hence why I am asking

 

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I know Claws has wicked recharge gift as its 'bonus,' but at the same time Firey Aura Benefits greatly from +Recharge bonuses.

I guess the basic question is: is priority damage or survival? For normal gameplay, I'd lean towards recharge with some defense on the side. That means investing in Crushing Impact for the Melee, which fortunately are not that hard to come across.

I got plenty of Fire Armors scraps/tanks, but still leveling my own clawsie. So not sure I'd be much use for half of the build.


 

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again, I am looking into anything really. Outa all of the scrapper posts there is only ONE build posted and I play a blaster, not a scrapper...So anything really, just build idea's in general.

 

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Originally Posted by Ravenous33 View Post
again, I am looking into anything really. Outa all of the scrapper posts there is only ONE build posted and I play a blaster, not a scrapper...So anything really, just build idea's in general.
I am working on one for you I just had not had time at work then I had martial arts training tonight so I am behind I will post one I will let claws guys make suggestion if I am off base on claws attacks I pick there are a lot of different directions to go with claws and you could easily want to take all the attacks but you will never use them all I found that between 5-6 is plenty generally

Sorry on the delay

Pinnacle
Langar Thurs-Katana/SR 50; Hejtmane-DM/DA 50
Rogue Spear-Spines/DA 50; Hypnosis-Ill/Rad 50
Sir Thomas Theroux-DM/SR 50; Melted Copper-Fire/Shield 50
Byzantine Warrior-DB/ELA 50;Blade Tempo-50 DB/EA

 

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Ok here is a build I did not include Super Jump as a travel power I generally use Ninja run if she wants it have here take it and push stuff back some and drop temp protection or rop i threw those in at the end or you can add assault instead as well so you have so flexibility in the build. This is not a high end build but a middle of the road. I skipped shock wave why would you want to knock guys out of you Blazing aura but some swear buy it so any you claws guys make any comments please I am no expert on claws I went by what i would do but I have some quirks like anyone else. I did not take burn in the build there are always arguments for and against. So here is an idea you can tweak way more than this and go crazy but I got around 21% to 28% defense and 52+% s/l resistance and healing flames down to a 17s recharge.

So here you go take a look play with it and I hope that helps

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Pinnacle
Langar Thurs-Katana/SR 50; Hejtmane-DM/DA 50
Rogue Spear-Spines/DA 50; Hypnosis-Ill/Rad 50
Sir Thomas Theroux-DM/SR 50; Melted Copper-Fire/Shield 50
Byzantine Warrior-DB/ELA 50;Blade Tempo-50 DB/EA

 

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Any other builds, ideas? suggestions.
Thanks!

 

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I always run out of slots with /Fire builds... Well, not too happy with the recharge and maxhp, but lots of recovery, 28% melee def, almost 20% ranged, Healing Flames recharging in 17 secs outside hasten. Maybe I'd do better but I'm kinda sick now, but perhaps it gives your friend some ideas:

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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Strike -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(3), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(3), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), T'Death-Dam%(7)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(7), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), RctvArm-ResDam(9)
Level 2: Slash -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(11), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Achilles-ResDeb%(15)
Level 4: Healing Flames -- Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal(17), Dct'dW-Rchg(19)
Level 6: Spin -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(19), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Oblit-%Dam(23)
Level 8: Follow Up -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(25), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(25), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), T'Death-Dam%(29)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(31)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(31), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), RctvArm-ResDam(33)
Level 18: Focus -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(34), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(36), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(36), P'Shift-End%(37)
Level 22: Blazing Aura -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(37), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(37), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(39), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(50)
Level 26: Consume -- P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(40), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(40), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 28: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 30: Tough -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), TtmC'tng-ResDam(42)
Level 32: Shockwave -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(43), Posi-Dmg/Rng(43), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dam%(45)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 38: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Def(46), LkGmblr-Rchg+(46)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(46), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(48), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(48), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(48), GSFC-Build%(50)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(50)
Level 47: Temperature Protection -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:

  • 10,5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 10,5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 10,5% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 10,5% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 10,5% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 10,5% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 10,5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 10,5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 13,3% Defense(Smashing)
  • 13,3% Defense(Lethal)
  • 5,19% Defense(Fire)
  • 5,19% Defense(Cold)
  • 10,5% Defense(Energy)
  • 10,5% Defense(Negative)
  • 3% Defense(Psionic)
  • 19,9% Defense(Melee)
  • 10,5% Defense(Ranged)
  • 7,38% Defense(AoE)
  • 4% Enhancement(Heal)
  • 41% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 36,3% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 24% FlySpeed
  • 165,7 HP (12,4%) HitPoints
  • 24% JumpHeight
  • 24% JumpSpeed
  • Knockback (Mag -4)
  • Knockup (Mag -4)
  • MezResist(Held) 5,5%
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 9,9%
  • MezResist(Sleep) 3,85%
  • MezResist(Stun) 3,85%
  • MezResist(Terrorized) 2,2%
  • 9,5% (0,16 End/sec) Recovery
  • 10% (0,56 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 3,78% Resistance(Fire)
  • 3,78% Resistance(Cold)
  • 24% RunSpeed




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Thank you so very much for that. It really does help with learning seeing the differances with the builds.

 

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Originally Posted by Ravenous33 View Post
Thank you so very much for that. It really does help with learning seeing the differances with the builds.
That is what is nice sometimes you can still be powerfull yet different in ways with builds and sometimes your play style matters

Post your build when you get it planned on and decide on what you want. We can look it over and maybe fine tune it some or just say go run with it. I am always looking to tinker with my build looking for new ways to maximize the set

Pinnacle
Langar Thurs-Katana/SR 50; Hejtmane-DM/DA 50
Rogue Spear-Spines/DA 50; Hypnosis-Ill/Rad 50
Sir Thomas Theroux-DM/SR 50; Melted Copper-Fire/Shield 50
Byzantine Warrior-DB/ELA 50;Blade Tempo-50 DB/EA

 

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Here is how I would do it.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,621
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Strike T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(3), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(3), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), T'Death-Dam%(7)
Level 1: Fire Shield Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam(7), Aegis-Psi/Status(9), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(11)
Level 2: Slash Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(13), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mako-Dam%(15)
Level 4: Healing Flames Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal(19)
Level 6: Spin Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(21), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Oblit-%Dam(25)
Level 8: Follow Up Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(50), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 10: Hurdle Jump-I(A)
Level 12: Hasten RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 14: Health Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 16: Plasma Shield Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(27), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Aegis-ResDam(29), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 18: Focus Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(31), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 20: Stamina P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(34), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(34), P'Shift-End%(34)
Level 22: Consume P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 24: Blazing Aura M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(36), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(36), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(36), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 26: Eviscerate Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(37), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 28: Boxing Acc-I(A)
Level 30: Tough S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(40), S'fstPrt-ResKB(40), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(42)
Level 32: Weave LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Maneuvers LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(43), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), LkGmblr-Def(45)
Level 41: Tactics GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(45), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(45), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(46), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(46), GSFC-Build%(46)
Level 44: Conserve Power RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Physical Perfection P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(48), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(48), P'Shift-End%(48)
Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix Dmg-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run



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