Computer Won't Turn On; Possible Dead PSU?
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Posted on: 2010-03-25 08:45 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
is it plugged into a ups? if the battery in that is dead, it won't turn on. if not check the power strip it is plugged into to see if it blew a fuse or something. otherwise, yep the psu is dead. it happens. i have had it happen before. just remove it and replace it. if it an oem pc (dell, hp, etc) there are sights out there that have replacement psu's that will fit those cases. just google the pc manufacture, model and module number (dell dimension 3000) power supply replacement.
One other thing to try is this, unplug the system and then press and hold the power button for 10-15 sec. Then plug it back in and see what happens. It's possible the system had a small power surge. Doing that will clear the capacitors and may allow the system to come back on. If that doesn't work, you may have a dead PSU or issues with your power strip/UPS/whatever it's plugged into.
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I tried what you said, Back_Blast, and no go. Tried plugging it into a different outlet in a different room, and no go. Looks like the PSU is dead.
And unfortunatly, right now, I don't think we can afford to get a new one. 
I'll look around and see what I can find. Until then, I'm probably just gonna stick the HDDs and network card into her old case.
Thanks for the help! 
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Well ****. 
I put the HDD into her old case, put the network card in, put my DVD Burner in, took it back to her office, and plugged everything in.
First thing we noticed was that the power light on the front was blinking orange. ******* ****!!
A search on Google returned about 98983490582385902389058239085902385 different problems and twice as many solutions. Son of a *****!! Computers are such a pain in the ***!
I unplugged everything, and brought her case into my office. Plugged it into the wall here, and same thing. I disconnected the DVD burner, and same thing. Then, on a whim, I unplugged my 250 GB HDD, and plugged in her 80 GB HDD. It seemed to boot up fine. Monkey ******* *** kicking son of a donkey ****!!
So, that makes me wonder if the PSU on my case is really shot, or if it was the HDD causing the problem. Right now, I'm so pissed I don't feel like ripping everything out and stuffing it back in just to see, so I decided to ask here:
Might it be that the HDD was dead and causing it to not boot, and not the PSU? Should I stick the old 80 GB HDD into my case, and try booting up? Or should I go back in time, and shoot the inventor of the computer... 
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well I'd consider it unusual but yes I do believe that the HDD could be at fault depending on just what is wrong with it. I have seen issues like that before. So you could try your suggestion and see if it comes up. You don't even *have* to have a drive if you want to see if it will just POST. Just plug it up and go. If it does more than it did before, like POST, then you know you're on the right track. As for going back in time to shoot the inventor of the computer, you'll probably need a computer to compute the time jump...
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I've had a hard drive fail and this. At this point I'd try putting the 80gig in and see if it will boot. If it does, it's likely that the 250gig has died
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Drive motor must of seized and/or shorted if the PSU won't even turn on.
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Yup. Seems the 250 is dead. I had an old 80 GB laying around, so I stuck that in as a second HDD. The original 80 GB wouldn't boot. It kept asking me to choose which OS to boot to, Win7 or WinXP, and both returned an error. So, I used the old 80 GB, and re-installed Win7 on that.
After I was done, I plugged in her 80 GB, and when Win7 found it, it said, "Your M*gibberish letters* *random numbers* is installed and ready to use!!". o.0 It's a Maxtor HDD. Went to Device Manager, and removed it, then told it to scan for new hardward, and it installed it as a Maxtor HDD. Oddly, it was assigned the drive letter of I...
I'm currently copying everyting off of that onto my 500 GB WD MyBook. Then, if it goes splort, we'll at least have access to the data that was on it. I'm gonna try to pu tthe 250 back in as a secondary HDD, so that I can copy data off of it, too, but at this point, I'm not expecting it to boot.
Once again, thanks for the help, all! 
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Is it possible to recover the data from it myself? Or is it gone?
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Drive motor must of seized and/or shorted if the PSU won't even turn on.
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If the drive motor is shot or any of the other mechanical bits are dead, no. Only way to get anything from it then is to take it to a professional drive recovery place. And that's not generally cheap. They'll basically take the unit apart in a clean room and pull the data directly from the platters. Hence the $$$. Hope you have backups!
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Is it possible to recover the data from it myself? Or is it gone?
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Yeah, they overcharge for not doing much. Data Recovery Places will nevar get my moneis!!!
Seriously, though, due to their (IMO) retardedly high costs, I never consider a data recovery place as an option.
Ah well. The HDD is dead. Time to start scouting out a replacement, for when we can afford it. Only problem is that it's an EIDE and not SATA system...
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Yeah, they overcharge for not doing much. Data Recovery Places will nevar get my moneis!!!
Seriously, though, due to their (IMO) retardedly high costs, I never consider a data recovery place as an option. Ah well. The HDD is dead. Time to start scouting out a replacement, for when we can afford it. Only problem is that it's an EIDE and not SATA system... |
Hopefully you'll be able to find something when you need it. Good luck!
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Yeah, they overcharge for not doing much. Data Recovery Places will nevar get my moneis!!!
Seriously, though, due to their (IMO) retardedly high costs, I never consider a data recovery place as an option. Ah well. The HDD is dead. Time to start scouting out a replacement, for when we can afford it. Only problem is that it's an EIDE and not SATA system... |
Here's hoping nothing else goes kaput and GL with the replacement shopping.
And while I have no idea how good they are, there are such things as add-in SATA cards if such would be of interest. Probably still better or at least cheaper to get IDE but it's an option.
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On the dive that failed for me, I found that the circuit board had blown a chip. I found a replacement board on eBay (for almost as much as a new drive) and was able to recover my data. I was one of the lucky people. That doesn't work very often. That dive is still alive today, but was moved to an external case and is now only used for file transfers. I don't trust it for anything else.
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Why do computer problems always come in droves? Or, like a group of crows, in murders?
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Anyway, around the end of February, I got a new PC. I was going to upgrade The Wife's PC by putting my 2GB RAM and larger HDD into her case. I found out that she was already at the max RAM for her mobo (1 GB), so instead, I set her up on my old PC, placing her PC's HDD into the case as a second HDD, and putting her network card into the case. (And yes, we had already found out a few years back that both of our computers use the exact same type of RAM.
Everything was going great until this morning. I woke up to find The Wife in the living room with her laptop. She told me that her computer won't turn on. Since I just woke up, I was thinking she meant it wouldn't boot up. I went into her office, and pressed the power button. Nothing happened.
I unplugged everything, and opened the case. I didn't see anything that looked burned or melted, and I didn't smell anything.
I plugged the power cord back in, and the little green light on the back of the case came on saying it was getting power. So, I reached around and pressed the power button, and the PSU's fan twitched as I let go of the button, and then the little green light went out. I unplugged the power cord, and was trying to think of what I should do, when I though I saw the green light flash. I plugged the power cord back in, and the green light lit up. Pressed the power button again, and the same thing happened. When I let go of the button, the fan twitched, and the green light went out.
I unplugged the cord, and waited to see if the green light would flash again, and it did. I plugged the cord back in, looked at the clock, and pressed the power button. Same results. Unplugged the cord, and waited for the green light to flash. It took 15 seconds.
And now, I'm asking for some help here. Does anyone have any idea what the problem is? Is the PSU dead/dying? That's the only think I can think of, but I don't know as much as you guys & gals do.
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