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Double XP and the market (again)

Adeon Hawkwood

By Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-03-02 21:52 in The Market and Inventions

 

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Originally Posted by Effy_On_Malibu View Post
So for DXP i can't even think what i made, i think i got a heca or something but i forgot. So yeah i decided to play the game as opposed to playing virtual ebay.
I played the game and made ~800M selling stuff. Funny how you can do both, but that never stops the people who love to hate the market from claiming otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
Really? Me too! Except for maybe an hour and a half over four days where I made a few hundred million.
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Originally Posted by Frogfather View Post
Yer funny...come to the market forum and deride people for marketearing....next go to the PVP forums and tell them you played the game instead of playing virtual fight club
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Originally Posted by UberGuy View Post
I played the game and made ~800M selling stuff. Funny how you can do both, but that never stops the people who love to hate the market from claiming otherwise.
You can cut the defensiveness with a knife.

 

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I don't get why you guys think his remark is offensive; I play virtual ebay every day and love it. I play the market because I like pretending to be Warren Buffet, except with Monopoly money instead of real money.

Half the time I'm logged into the game I'm not even playing it, just sitting around and chatting. I play virtual architect by tinkering with my base. I play virtual Barbies by making up costumes. What narrow-minded people conceive as "playing the game" (i.e. going into missions and killing stuff) is really a very minor part of the game.

 

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Originally Posted by Frogfather View Post
Yer funny...come to the market forum and deride people for marketearing....next go to the PVP forums and tell them you played the game instead of playing virtual fight club
Lol dude, and - rep too. I think you need to open your mind. I wasn't disrespecting marketeering.

I just don't actually make an effort to do it anymore.

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Originally Posted by Another_Fan View Post
You can cut the defensiveness with a knife.
You act as if it's not justified.

Maybe we're just a little jaded from the seemingly never-ending stream of people without an eighth of a clue how the market functions proclaiming not just how it's broken (and how to fix it), but then declaring how they hate things about it that aren't even true.

It's one thing to dislike the market. It's something altogether different to claim (and often vehemently defend) factual untruths about it. For example: how it takes standing around at the market for hours to use it well.

That's what Effy's comment sounded like to me. Based on the follow up, it sounds like that wasn't the case at all, but I think it might be easy to see the misunderstanding if one can see past the glare of their own halo.

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Well to be fair, you can log in for a few minutes and get your marketing done and run off an play, but I have spent hours at the market, and I doubt I'm the only one who posts here who can say that. Usually when I'm working on my toon's build rather than working to make influence/infamy, but you can stand at the market for an hour and have the same toons on either side of you for all of that time too.

But yes, I made a lot of money last weekend and also spent most of my time actually playing my characters. 1-10 on a scrapper, 20-35 on one defender, something like 28-40 on another, and I think 20-25 on a third.


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Originally Posted by Organica View Post
Well to be fair, you can log in for a few minutes and get your marketing done and run off an play, but I have spent hours at the market, and I doubt I'm the only one who posts here who can say that. Usually when I'm working on my toon's build rather than working to make influence/infamy, but you can stand at the market for an hour and have the same toons on either side of you for all of that time too.
I was just posting about this actually in another non-market thread (re: a tangentially related topic).

I do very occasionally spend a stretch of time actually digging around looking at stuff in them market. Whenever I do that, though, I'm usually applying what I'll tongue-in-cheek refer to "marketeering skillz" - some sort of deep dive into what prices are like across level ranges or similar items, so some sort of serious effort to both buy something right now and still pay bargain prices.

Most of the time, if my character is idle at the market, it's because I went to the market and got distracted by the forums or by fiddling with Mid's builder, or because I wandered off and ate a sandwich. Hitting the market is sort of a natural break point for me after an hour of rampaging through missions or TFs or whatnot, so my brain often wanders down some other corridor, perhaps despite originally having an in-game goal. I can't tell you how many times I broke out Mid's to look at what I needed to buy and instead started fiddling with my build instead (potentially ending up changing my shopping list after I already bought half the things on it).

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Originally Posted by Another_Fan View Post
You can cut the defensiveness with a knife.

Yer funny

 

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Originally Posted by UberGuy View Post
You act as if it's not justified.
It may certainly be justified. The question is why ?

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Maybe we're just a little jaded from the seemingly never-ending stream of people without an eighth of a clue how the market functions proclaiming not just how it's broken (and how to fix it), but then declaring how they hate things about it that aren't even true.
Old Americanism, "I don't know much about art but I know what I like". Well the people complaining may not know much about the economy but they know what they don't like.

 

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Originally Posted by Another_Fan View Post
Old Americanism, "I don't know much about art but I know what I like". Well the people complaining may not know much about the economy but they know what they don't like.
Moreover, when people don't even know what's going on what they often think they don't like isn't even happening. We see that with great frequency in the drive by rants posted in here in particular, and in some other places on the forums as well.

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It's certainly the case that the market forum, like all the other forums, occasionally features posts that seem to have no basis whatsoever in the reality of the game as I play it, or what I read elsewhere. I mean completely bizarre assertions, like they're playing a different game or something.

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Originally Posted by Organica View Post
Well to be fair, you can log in for a few minutes and get your marketing done and run off an play, but I have spent hours at the market, and I doubt I'm the only one who posts here who can say that.
If someone finds the market distasteful for whatever reason, they can still earn a fortune doing nothing but dumping off their drops and picking up their inf. This takes at most a few minutes per session.

If someone enjoys the market, as I do, then sure you can spend a lot of time at Wents fiddling with this or that experiment.

But, that level of interaction is entirely optional.

The belief that the only way to to make inf on the market is to slave over a hot interface for hours at a time is a ridiculous myth that's become one of the deader horses on the forums.

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Originally Posted by Another_Fan View Post
the people complaining may not know much about the economy but they know what they don't like.
What don't they like? The not knowing anything about it bit? You can't help some people any of the time I guess.

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Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
The only time recently I've spent HOURS at the market... I was trying out a badge toon and trying to get the "thousands of things sold" and "Field crafter" badges.
I finally 'cheated' on my thousands of sales badges, and bought cheap salvage and sold it at a loss. I got into a selling cycle with someone somewhere in the world, where I bought stacks of 10 rubies for 200 and relisted for 10, and they bought at 10, and relisted at 200. I felt this kind of spiritual badging connection through the interwebs. :-)

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Originally Posted by Sailboat View Post
Was there a drop in purple prices this week? I was only monitoring Ragnaroks, but I'd under-bid on a spread of them and been sitting there, not quite getting them, for weeks. Prior to the 2xp weekend, I re-bid to just under the going rate. Right after the weekend I snapped up two of the pieces, but was surprised to see that the going rate had dropped 50 million on each (and filled up the "last 5" sales at that new low price, so it's wasn't a single low sale). I got a third set piece two days later, although the price on it didn't drop significantly.

Wasn't expecting them to drop in price. I guess I'm technically no worse off then if the price had stayed roughly steady and I'd bid what I did, but I do hate to feel like I overpaid by 50 million apiece AFTER waiting for weeks (the worst of both worlds!) :P
This post was given 108 points of negative rep. I just can't figure out why. It's not even off-topic, and I don't call anyone a nitwit.

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