Does it get better?

Traitor! Redside markets are fine! Play your villains.

I think more people will bring heroes to villainside.

I know, it's great that we have so many options to change and advance our characters when we hit 50. It's good to be spoiled with choices.

Lolbadges.

I have a 50 brute that has been 50 for quite some time. I have 39, 37 and 32 masterminds and several sub 20 vils. Not like redside is just overflowing with content.

There are exactly two aspects to the game.
Content.
Character/build technicalities.

The second requires a functional market to be interesting and have any kind of depth. Once red market is fixed through merging or some random act of god, I'll roll more red.

You're welcome.

We marketeers are also against public health care, we support sterilization of welfair recipients and actively lobby for parent licensing.

I appologies if you're idea of a villain doesn't seem to agree with the more modern take on villainy. I would recommend to stop reading Disney comics and pick-up a modern DC series; DC has far less mustache twirling. Thank-you.

As for the question of "Does it get better."

Fire/kins aside from Tanks/Brutes and scrappers are the number 1 choice for farmers as at later lvls it is an EXCELLENT combination.

I would recommend using your fire/kin to farm AE, roll 25-29 bronze recipes, craft recipes and sell these on the market. You said you had sons; how about attempting to Speed run Posi and numina TFs for merits, turn it into a competition and actively participate in Hami-raids. Check the market for a recipe that is selling at a fair price (compare the recipe and crafted recipe before hand) buy from the merit vendor and sell the recipe on the market for cash.

Also take the time to look at recipes that you can craft and sell for a modest profit.

engage in transfering of funds from blue to redside. There are plenty of people on any given server that would be willing to assist you in these types of transactions.

Enjoy your fire/kin. It only gets much more profitable.

This.

My widow/fortuna has lingered in the lower-40s for months because, in large part, there's no excitement to get her to 50 and IO her out. And that's because the BM is so awful.

It's become a part of my decision every time I start a new character. I'd probably be playing more Corruptors and less Defenders and Blasters if I wasn't always deterred at the last minute by thoughts of the BM.

I might bring heroes over to redside (or the Prae GR section), but only if they're fully-IOd out and I don't plan on changing them.

this is my favorite part of this thread

What excitement? Much more excitement when *not* IO'd out - more build uniqueness, more risk when adventuring, more celebratory moments because you get a drop you can actually use, etc., etc...

And I still say blue side is messed just because there are common drops that go for way more than what I common should among other things. One example since this is the controller forum. One could craft common IOs and resell them for a profit by default. There might be some that were difficult to do, or you would lose out and certainly in certain price ranges. Most people don't craft common sleep IOs in mass to sell on the market for profit. There's just not enough market for it. But common hold IOs being way under valued? I know I have seen common hold IOs for 1K and we are talking level 35+. When I IOed out my Earth/storm with commons, I made sure to buy them at a proper price just to encourage people to sell and buy them for more.

Again, yes, red side is messed up to where it makes blue side seem like a dream. There was a time where my sig had the following...

How to fix the red side market.
Step 1. Play red side.
Step 2. Repeat step one.

Simply put, not enough people play red side and the market won't get better until more people do.

Vibe I get from the forum is the opposite and there was a thread asking people if they play the hero, or villain in games and the vast majority said hero. I know I have zero desire to role a hero and have them go red side. I'll be happy to be wrong because like I mention in response to the previous quote, red side needs people playing there.

Soon your precious redside well no longer have the doms.... Muhahahahah!

Edit to Op:

Yes it does get better, with my controller I can blow thur BM's farm in no time at all. just keep the patience and play all the way thur.

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Well yes sort of.

I left red side along time ago mainly due to lack of content and poor Dominator performance. I have a few toons over there but I spend about 1/4 the time there that I used to mainly because market turnover is about that much slower. I get to a certain point and put bids in and log off. (I build to exemplar so I'm kind of picky about what level IOs I buy).

I play again when my xp day job meter is full or my bids have filled.

Bids filling happen 4 times faster blue side so I spend about 4 times as much time there.

You mean the enemy groups that give just about everything trouble even at those levels (Carnies even give many melee builds a hard time)? Just because a player builds to handle a specific type of enemies doesn't mean they will automatically have problems with others - that's got much more to do with the person at the keyboard than the character they're playing.

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Ok I do not have a fire/storm troller, but I do have a Ice/storm troller that can tank better then lot of other tanks. As far as Heal? I have said it once and I will say it again 02 BOOST. One of the best heal others in the game. Read up on what it dose. And someone already mentioned it before but fire/kins are great for certain mobs manly for the build they do, but my grave/kin, and ice/storm is killing mobs faster then most fire/kins.

I think you missed the context of my quote that you used there. I wasn't "meh"ing o2 boost. It was in relation to the person who said /kin bloomed earlier than /storm because it had a "huge heal" to which I "meh"ed the fact that /kin has an early self heal.

And FYI, I don't need to read up on o2 boost, I'm pretty familiar with it, thanks though.

Ok I was not trying to out do you I was trying to let other people know, I know you know what 02 boost dose. ( we discussed it earlier), I know there are people who don't know the good stuff about 02 boost. I was trying to agree with you about the /storm troller. I apologize for the miss understanding MM. I have had people ask me why do I take it for my storm.

There are a couple schools of thought on this one. Hot Feet does take a lot of endurance, but if you fight a lot of weak enemies (like -1 / x4 / no bosses) you can just use Cages + Hot Feet to do damage and rely on heals to stay alive, skipping the single target controls entirely except on annoying Lts like Spectrals. Alternately, you can use Char and Ring of Fire as damage dealers and skip Hot Feet, fighting smaller groups but being able to handle tougher individual enemies. Honestly, both methods are slow and endurance heavy and I'm not sure which is better... just don't try to use both Hot Feet and Char / Ring of Fire until you get stamina and SOs.

Better yet, don't use SOs at all. Frankenslot as soon as you hit the low 20s. Controllers solo slowly enough that you can use all the help you can get.

Hmm. Does the x4 actually make up for the massive loss of XP and inf compared to what you'd've gotten at 0 / x1?

Heh, not a problem.