Yes, you can.
Traps will allow it if you use Web Grenade.If you slot up for max recharge and max Immob duration, its all gravy.Your wish is Granted.
Dark Miasma will allow you to use your Dark Servants petrifying gaze to that effect on Bosses, and before that, Petrifying Gaze its self.Again, your wish is granted.
Im sure there might be other ways for a diffrent Secondary to do the same thing, but, those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head.
Enjoy! 
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dont forget the added tar patch for -resist goodness +slows and -jump/fly so they have to run out
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Originally Posted by Fire_Minded
Yes, you can.
Traps will allow it if you use Web Grenade.If you slot up for max recharge and max Immob duration, its all gravy.Your wish is Granted. Dark Miasma will allow you to use your Dark Servants petrifying gaze to that effect on Bosses, and before that, Petrifying Gaze its self.Again, your wish is granted. Im sure there might be other ways for a diffrent Secondary to do the same thing, but, those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. Enjoy! |
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Very true, but the OP just wanted a option to hold them there for Ignite.Im pretty sure its common knowledge to anyone that reads the powers in there power sets, the obvious effects that you and I already know. |
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
dont forget the added tar patch for -resist goodness +slows and -jump/fly so they have to run out
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Indeed. I plan on (eventually) slowing them with Glue Arrow, gaining 30% extra damage with Acid and Disruption Arrows, and burning entire spawns into oblivion with Oil Slick and Ignite/Flamethrower.
The idea of forcing a boss to stand there and burn... just makes all that sound EVEN BETTER!
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Don't forget Black Scorpion's Web Envelope AoE Immob. The only downside of any of these methods is I don't think any have KB protection so you can punt them out of your Ignite with several of your AR attacks. Ignite's radius is very small. Like 5ft. So you'll hit whatever is standing directly in the Ignite patch and anything immediately surrounding it. Works well to pull a bunch of enemies to a corner, immobilize them in a tight group, and then proceed with the burnination.
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This is a mix iv acctualy been wanting to try.I acctually think TA/ on a Defender/Corruptor/Controller is awesome.Everyone screams thats its weak.....WRONG!|
Originally Posted by Kinrad
Indeed. I plan on (eventually) slowing them with Glue Arrow, gaining 30% extra damage with Acid and Disruption Arrows, and burning entire spawns into oblivion with Oil Slick and Ignite/Flamethrower.
The idea of forcing a boss to stand there and burn... just makes all that sound EVEN BETTER! |
I personally love Assualt Rifle, but I dont use it because im conflicted on what to pair with it, and the AT doesnt really matter for me.Should I go Traps?or Force Fields?or Devices?or Trick Arrows?!or...or...or.....BLARG!
See what I mean?I end up curled into a ball in the corner rocking back and forth sucking my thumb because I cant decide!
The major of my issue, is that im not one to repeat a power, reguardless of the AT.I just dont wanna take the same set I just took to 50 again.I mean, you hear of people talking about taking there Invln/SS Tanker to level 50, and then a Fire/SS, then a Elec/SS, and then WP/SS.....You get the picture im sure.To me, thats Dull.
Then theres those who go off and tell you to pick a power set EVERYONE uses.Like Kinetics, or Empathy, or Radiant Aura.That yours is a....and I quote..."Epic Fail".I never listen to anyone that uses L33t sP34k, or the Words Epic or Fail by them selves, or put together.They have no idea if a power set is bad, because they want what they see everyone have.
The worste kinds for me, and im sure many people will attack me for this, is Min/Maxers, and Mids users.Its a point of interest when someone titles a "Making a <incert build here>", and I want to go see possibly there Theme for it, or why they think itll be a interesting mix, or anything towards asking if the mix will work well, and in what way?has anyone played this before?Thats what I exspect.
However, the reality is totally diffrent...
"Here is my new build, read the Mids Print up and tell me what you think."
That to me, tells me people just want whats mathmatically strongest, WITH IOs!
News flash people!IOs arent required to play the game, and the game wasnt made harder because of there arrival.Its a waste of time and effort to Mids up a Character that you havnt even created yet, or carried past level 1, and even worse yet, have no idea if the Mids IO drawn up will make that build any better.
Iv seen people who use Mids fudge up a Tanker so bad, that my old SOs Tankers out perform them.Some people should just not use Mids.
Sorry Fire-Minded, but I completely disagree. While there are those who just want to min/max (and thats ok) there are LOTS of people who use Mids to blue print what powers to take and when as well as what powers need which slots/enhancements sooner or later. Yes while the constant stream of rate my build so I can farm threads are annoying, you don't HAVE to go into that topic. Maybe the theme for the toon only matters if he/she can be very good.
Welcome to the game though, and have fun. Trolling isn't fun.
I mean, if you were going to make the daughter of say Magneto and Storm, you arent going to want her to suck are you. Especially since she is supposedly the offspring of 2 class 4 mutants or whatever.
Point is, just cause you don't like min/maxing, doesnt mean others aren't welcome to use it. Oh and don't fault the program for it either. Mids didnt start farmers or min/maxers, just like Mcdonald's doesnt make fat people. Its the people's fault either way.
Fire, I respect your opinions on mids, IOs, builds, and whatnot, but you don't really need to bring them out in every thread you post in when it doesn't really have anything to do with the thread topic. Everyone has their pet peeves and things that annoy them, but we ought to keep them on a leash most of the time if we don't want all the threads to devolve into arguments.
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i like to max my toons, but i never used mids, i build everything from scratch.
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Originally Posted by Darth_Vernon
I mean, if you were going to make the daughter of say Magneto and Storm, you arent going to want her to suck are you. Especially since she is supposedly the offspring of 2 class 4 mutants or whatever.
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This right here shows me that I offended your none creative, and none curious nature.I do apologize for that, but I think people that use Mids to "Map out a Character", lack any imagination, creativity, and lack the ability to have the uncertainty of dicovering/creating something on your own.Its not a building Blue Print of a Mall is it?
While it is Valid to tell me this isnt the post for this kind of Debate, I will agree with that.It was something thats been eating at me for a while, and unlike most people in society, it just comes tummbling out when it bothers me.Opening someones Mid print out, and seeing nothing but that on the screen, is a waste of my time to open that page to see the post in question has no acctual body to it.Just a Mids print out wait for approval of someone else using Mids that has no real idea of how to slot the power sets, cause its always the same old thing.
You see a Resiatance or Regen based power set....Mid users answer is almost always "IO it with Def %.", which doesnt really make much sense to cripple the rest of the builds offensive capabilities just to have moderate Def %.THATS a whole diffrent argument in its self that i wont get into.
I havnt met one person thats used mids and IOd a build as well as I have another player that doesnt use mids.Theres a huge diffrence in mantality between the 2.
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Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino
Fire, I respect your opinions on mids, IOs, builds, and whatnot, but you don't really need to bring them out in every thread you post in when it doesn't really have anything to do with the thread topic. Everyone has their pet peeves and things that annoy them, but we ought to keep them on a leash most of the time if we don't want all the threads to devolve into arguments.
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Understood, ill work on it.
Fire, I'll I was saying is that Mids is not *only* used as a maxing tool. Lots of people use it to see how different powersets can work together and to create ideas. The example was just that, an example, but it was meant to make my point. If you are trying to get a certain storyline or character concept out of a new toon, Mids is a very helpful tool. By no means is it the only tool. I use mostly paragon wiki to make my character ideas.
Either way, not a huge deal. If you don't like Mids or those who use it, just don't look in the rate my buld threads. Cheers!
Ok, just made 26.... holy cow this is a great combo. With Ignite and Flamethrower I can easily dispatch mobs and move onto the next group... and this is with -2 SOs!
Muhhuahahahahahaha!!
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Ok, just made 26.... holy cow this is a great combo. With Ignite and Flamethrower I can easily dispatch mobs and move onto the next group... and this is with -2 SOs!
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Looks like I may be making a second Controller.It'll prolly end up with TA as a secondary.
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I like caltroping them (gets more than one at time) and then using ignite on them - flamethrower - ignite again etc (so they can slowly try to run away while on fire.).|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
dont forget the added tar patch for -resist goodness +slows and -jump/fly so they have to run out
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But yeah, web grenade is a great with a single a target because the quick recharge time can keep them from escaping from the firey inferno of ignite.
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So the crux of your argument here is that anyone who uses Mid's is an elitist Min/Maxer? |
Originally Posted by Fire_Minded
The worste kinds for me, and im sure many people will attack me for this, is Min/Maxers, and Mids users.Its a point of interest when someone titles a "Making a <incert build here>", and I want to go see possibly there Theme for it, or why they think itll be a interesting mix, or anything towards asking if the mix will work well, and in what way?has anyone played this before?Thats what I exspect.
However, the reality is totally diffrent... "Here is my new build, read the Mids Print up and tell me what you think." That to me, tells me people just want whats mathmatically strongest, WITH IOs! News flash people!IOs arent required to play the game, and the game wasnt made harder because of there arrival.Its a waste of time and effort to Mids up a Character that you havnt even created yet, or carried past level 1, and even worse yet, have no idea if the Mids IO drawn up will make that build any better. Iv seen people who use Mids fudge up a Tanker so bad, that my old SOs Tankers out perform them.Some people should just not use Mids. |
Try this:
Take a step outside yourself for a minute and re-read what I quoted, as though you did not write it yourself.
Now, after having done that, answer a question.
Who sounds like the elitist here?
Every time you rail against Mid's and people who use it, you sound like an ***hole. Would you like it if someone said they were better than you because of something you do and they don't? Because that's exactly what you're saying, in so many words, every single time you post this crap.
Yes, we get it, you don't like Mid's. Give it a ****ing rest already. There is NO reason to derail every single thread you post in because you have a mad-on against something that you don't like.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled thread.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
As far as the original topic is concerned, as an Assault Rifle/Trick Arrow corruptor your tactic of Entangling (or Ice Arrow) to lock things in place for Ignite should work beautifully. Would have been even better a year ago when Ignite still had a 3 second recharge time.
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Ignite is a contentious power only because it takes practise to employ well, instead of being obviously useful out of the box. At first, it does a little damage and keeps enemies away for a second. Then you start doing things like Tar Patch or Caltrops and it becomes a brutally powerful attack. THEN you slot it and start coming up against Elite Bosses, and it becomes a thing of beauty.
And then, you play in a team full of +recharge, and it becomes a testament unto heaven.
Last night I played an ITF with three /kins of various flavour. When we fought Romulus Nictus, things were getting badly out of hand with ambushes and everyoen else was screaming. I was cackling like a madman as his health moved like a Boss, thanks to the divine might that is Flamethrower-Ignite-Flamethrower-Ignite. I think I may have actually begun laughing like a psychopath at one point.
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flaming webnadded caltrops of doom, good times.
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Originally Posted by Kinrad
Oh this is a glorious day indeed!
My little Corruptor is only 24, but getting closer. I decided to something a little (read *very*) different and built an AR/Trick Arrow Corruptor. The redraw isn't as bad as I thought it might be, and "Wonderful Toys" is (so far) very very fun to play. |
I have an AR/Cold corrupter with billions in IOs and Full Auto up about every 30 seconds.
I still use Ignite-> Burst -> Ignite -> Burst as her main attack chain against single targets.
I've noticed that it doesn't seem like things are running away since GR/I18.
It also seems like the damage is substantially lower than it was during the AE days. I remember burning down +3 bosses with a single web + sleet + ignite combo. Then again, this was in AE..
Yeah ignite is a shell of its former self, and I have resorted to using it as a anti melee tool...well except it still does some nifty damage.
Out of curiosity, can I immobilize a LT (or a boss with a couple applications), and burn them to death with ignite? If so, I may be one of the happiest people... EVER...
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