Sorry I cannot help you....I am in dire need of a lot of things right now aside from Farve being Farve.
Ahh the pain of saying I am a Rams fan this year.
Well, you always have Sage Rosenfeld (sp?) to look forward to next season. Oh, and don't forget the golden Brett summer soap opera sponsored by your local waffle house. Family or Football....the savior's never ending dilema.
Of course you could have worse problems. I think the bears are paying people to INTERVIEW for coaching positions because no one wants to come work here. They are hiring all of the OC's assistants before they find a friggin OC!!! Oh, and you can come be Lovie's D-coordinator, so long as you run Lovie's defense. Leave your own ideas at the door please...I think you just ruined my night Baba...thanks for bringing this up.
So, yeah, I wish I could be more sympathetic maybe big hairy Viking mascot dude can give ya a hug.
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I feel your pain, I am a Denver Broncos fan.
You guys got Brett Farve and like he did to the Jets and Packers he shot your Vikings in the foot.
Rumor is if Farve really does retire for real, the Vikings will be going after Michael Vick. Not a good sign.
Sorry man, maybe next year.
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How did Favre lose the game? I know he threw the last INT, but he didn't fumble multiple times.
Well he did not lose the game himself, but he helped due to the last play of the game.
There was more problems Vikings had in that game which was mainly the choking they did. Farve was the guy that pretty much kept them in throughout the game. His receiving core and RBs dropped the ball in that one.
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There was more problems Vikings had in that game which was mainly the choking they did. Farve was the guy that pretty much kept them in throughout the game. His receiving core and RBs dropped the ball in that one.
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(I'm a Falcons fan, so I wish Favre would've gotten played instead of traded originally.)
Farve when pressure is on in a must win he makes the big mistake. Did it again. Watch the tape. He had a safer pass that was right near him, even Farve admitted he threw the ball to the wrong guy.
Durable QB, pressure no.
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Farve when pressure is on in a must win he makes the big mistake. Did it again. Watch the tape. He had a safer pass that was right near him, even Farve admitted he threw the ball to the wrong guy.
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You're right . . . as long as you ignore everything that happened before that.
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Let's ignore how Farve under pressure under under two minutes threw the interception that cost his team the Super Bowl against the Denver Broncos.
Let's ignore the fact that in overtime mirroring the same play he threw an interception in his last Super Bowl, he does the same bonehead throw giving the Giants the ball and the win in the NFC Championship Game Three years ago.
Let's ignore the fact he could have gotten the Jets into the playoffs last year if he did not wait... throw the interception in the last minute. In another must win.
Let's ignore the fact he threw an interception just like he did last year against the Saints. That was a huge mistake on his part.
Farve has a reputation of great play but boneheaded mistakes. I have watched the guy play for 20 years. He is a gunslinger he can have great plays but he also has a bunch of boneheaded plays when it matters most.
This was his best season and his lowest ever not throwing an interception. Farve is a great regular season QB but playoffs and under pressure he does not do well in must wins.
That is his legacy. If it was not he would have been in the Super Bowl again with the Packers or even now with the Vikings.
He will never be able to go out as John Elway winning a Super Bowl, being the Super Bowl MVP. That is what he wants to do but he will never do it.
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Originally Posted by UltraTroll
Sure lets ignore how he would choke against the Cowboys in the playoffs during the 1990's until his Defense led by Reggie White brought the team to their only Super Bowl win. He threw interceptions galore in those games and cost his team more than once a chance at a Super Bowl.
Let's ignore how Farve under pressure under under two minutes threw the interception that cost his team the Super Bowl against the Denver Broncos. Let's ignore the fact that in overtime mirroring the same play he threw an interception in his last Super Bowl, he does the same bonehead throw giving the Giants the ball and the win in the NFC Championship Game Three years ago. Let's ignore the fact he could have gotten the Jets into the playoffs last year if he did not wait... throw the interception in the last minute. In another must win. Let's ignore the fact he threw an interception just like he did last year against the Saints. That was a huge mistake on his part. Farve has a reputation of great play but boneheaded mistakes. I have watched the guy play for 20 years. He is a gunslinger he can have great plays but he also has a bunch of boneheaded plays when it matters most. This was his best season and his lowest ever not throwing an interception. Farve is a great regular season QB but playoffs and under pressure he does not do well in must wins. That is his legacy. If it was not he would have been in the Super Bowl again with the Packers or even now with the Vikings. He will never be able to go out as John Elway winning a Super Bowl, being the Super Bowl MVP. That is what he wants to do but he will never do it. |
Looking at the offensive stats. The Vikings had twice as many possessions compared to the Saints. Almost double the entire Saints. What killed them was their Receiving core and Running backs. Farve had a good game and did ok under pressure except that one time.
Here are the stats. Info taken from TSN.
What killed them was the fumbles not the one int.
Here is the ultimate dilema...with the exception of the VERY sad case of the Cubs fan, all other teams mentioned here have a had a ring or two in my adult lifetime.
I get to look forward to the summer of waffles and then wait with baited breath if it is Sage or TJack if Farv-er-a doesn't return.
I absolutely am crushed by the INT he made but he didn't lose the entire game there. Our best chance for a return to the title games is if he DOES return. I would like to see him return. He got KILLED and came back in and was one bad play away from being a legend again. In many ways his return with injuries continues his current legacy and I hope it motivates him to return for one more season.
No my friends, my problem lies in just being a fan of an epidemic of Viking lost causes. I have known only heartache and heartbreak (and o that H.Walker trade). Just one year with one ring is all I ask.
OK. I am not a Cubs fan so I feel soooo much better now.
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Pff.
Buncha whiners in here.
My home team's so bad I gave up watching football over a decade ago.
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LMAO Sampson...that made me feel soooo much better about the Bears current woes, but back to Baba's problem.
Unfortunately your best hope is that Brett does come back. You likely wouldn't even have been in the playoffs to begin with if it wasn't for him. The problem is Brett is a gunslinger. That's what makes him fun to watch but he is just as likely to turn into Barney Fife as he is to be Wyatt Earp in the games biggest moment. Is it his fault the Vikes lost? If all you saw was that last series then yes. If you saw the whole game, then no.
The Vikings need to hire Tim McGraw's character from Fiday Night Lights to come in and duct tape footballs to Adrian Peterson and the wide outs hands and abuse them into holding on to the ball.
I wish I could share your pain but any success for the Vikes comes with a massive urge to vomit on my part...I don't even want to get into what I think of the twins. In essence, I actually rather enjoyed the game.
I should stop...I'm not really being helpful.
P.S. You should really go get a hug from hairy Vikes mascot guy...it might help.
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I feel your pain....I'm a Rams fan, as well, and have been for a looong time, back to the Roman Gabriel days.
Too bad they can't draft 40 people in the top 3 rounds.
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Yeah that would be a dream for me also. Alas it looks like the ram saw it's shadow so now we are in full rebuild phase for a couple more years (at least!)
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I feel your pain....I'm a Rams fan, as well, and have been for a looong time, back to the Roman Gabriel days.
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Originally Posted by Mylia
Ok I am a big anti-Farve guy myself. Given that Farve still played a great game aside from the one gaff at the end...and even if that did happen, it should not of matter cause if the entire VIKINGS team PLAYED they would not be in that position.
Looking at the offensive stats. The Vikings had twice as many possessions compared to the Saints. Almost double the entire Saints. What killed them was their Receiving core and Running backs. Farve had a good game and did ok under pressure except that one time. Here are the stats. Info taken from TSN. What killed them was the fumbles not the one int. |
Yep, yep yep. The only stat that matters is the final score of the game in football.
That is why Saints are playing the Colts and Brett Farve is going to have a hard time making a choice between retiring or not for the 3rd Straight year.
I named the stats. You can out play anyone but when it comes to the clutch you have to make that shot in sports making the right choice something that Brett Farve has not done well in his career. He does not finish big games, he falls short.
I am talking Farve in the clutch in big games. His team turned over the ball but when he needed not too he did. *sighs* I listed his pattern in his whole career and you bring in one game.
Body of work man of a 20 year career.
My name is Baba Kanoosh. I have been a Viking Fan for 35 years now and I need your help.
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