w7 x64 and video driver problem
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DJ_Shecky,
Posted on: 2010-01-25 15:38 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
The fact that Nvidia no longer supports this card, and doens't support it in Win7 should tell you that you need to either drop back to Xp, or get a new graphics card.
Laptop je_saist, laptop. Betting it's either a engineering college specified laptop from their Freshman year.
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heheh, I guess it serves me right to ask something that doesn't have a copy-paste answer.
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Laptop in college in 95? Do you know how many dime bags you needed to unload to even BUY a laptop back then? Not to mention the stares you would get if you popped one out in VLSI Lab class. =D|
Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Laptop je_saist, laptop. Betting it's either a engineering college specified laptop from their Freshman year.
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Okay, just to add something not smirky and dismissive to the post, just in case another poor soul has the same problem as me, here's the solution I used to get CoH running on my, apparently-no-longer-supported-in-this-OS-so-just-give-up-already setup.
In short, you have to get a compatible DESKTOP driver from Nvidia and modify the INF to include your mobile card. Yeah easier said than done. But here are the steps for the 2500M anyway:
Be warned though, if you do this you will be running your laptop with desktop display drivers. This means no power saving battery stuff, your screen does not turn off when you close the lid and all that jazz that comes with meddling with the primal forces of nature Mr Beale! So you should know what you're getting into.
Manufacturer display driver for Quadro FX 2500M was not working in w7 x64 so, I went and downloaded the DESKTOP drivers for the Quadro FX 1500. The 2500 and 1500 are both Go 7900 GS-based (thank yee weekeepeedia) so you want to modify the drivers for the 1500.
The latest drivers that I found and the ones that work with CoH are the 191.78 drivers. If you stumble onto this post in the future (hello future how are you) and the drivers moved onto become skynet, you can always go to laptopvideo2go.com forums and find this version of the drivers there, without having to worry about going to that shady free-drivers website that wants to probe you.
Now that you have the desktop 191.78 drivers follow the steps in here to modify the inf and install the driver.
Specific instructions, as per that guide for the 2500M (what I modified)
In [Strings]
Find the line
NVIDIA_DEV.029E.01 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500"
Copy and paste an identical line with it.
Modify the new line with your hardware IDs as in the guide. Mine were
NVIDIA_DEV.029A.04 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 2500M "
Go to [NVIDIA_SetB_Devices.NTamd64.6.0]
Find the line
%NVIDIA_DEV.029E.01% = Section002, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_029E
Copy and paste an identical line with it.
Modify the new line with your hardware IDs as in the guide. Mine were
%NVIDIA_DEV.029A.04% = Section002, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_029A&SUBSYS_05711558
The important thing here is that the Nvidia_Dev in the string section matches the line in the Devices section. and that the PCI\VEN part of the line in the devices section contains the hardware ID of your display adapter as found in:
Device Manager> Details Tab > Hardware IDs> Second line
Once you saved your modified inf and used the "have disk method" as said in the guide, you can restart into using the 1500 Desktop Drivers for your 2500M.
The only thing I could not get to work, was installing the Nvidia control panel as the guide said. But I never use that thing anyway.
Enjoy CoH on your w7 x64 machine with a quadro 2500M, it turns out you CAN use a three year old laptop with a new OS to play a five year old game.
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The point that was being made was not that you couldn't hack a driver together to get it to work, but instead that NVidia (not CoH) isn't supporting the card anymore, which is stupid in my opinion for laptop cards, but what do you expect from some companies.|
Originally Posted by GeminiProject
Enjoy CoH on your w7 x64 machine with a quadro 2500M, it turns out you CAN use a three year old laptop with a new OS to play a five year old game. |
Glad you were able to hack around the problem.
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No offense, the specs just reminded me of the laptop my friends son had to buy when he started at an engineering college a couple of years ago, CAD oriented video card and all.|
Originally Posted by GeminiProject
heheh, I guess it serves me right to ask something that doesn't have a copy-paste answer.
Laptop in college in 95? Do you know how many dime bags you needed to unload to even BUY a laptop back then? Not to mention the stares you would get if you popped one out in VLSI Lab class. =D |
Don't expect many "professionals" here as oppose to college students trying to get games to run on their laptops.
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Yes. Laptops in college in '95. I have a few friends that were taking a program that had some computer repair classes along with some networking classes around that time, and one of the perks of the program was that you wound up with a laptop loaded with diagnostics software. True, you used the laptop the entire time you were in the program, but it wasn't a locked down system that kept you from loading anything.|
Originally Posted by GeminiProject
heheh, I guess it serves me right to ask something that doesn't have a copy-paste answer.
Laptop in college in 95? Do you know how many dime bags you needed to unload to even BUY a laptop back then? Not to mention the stares you would get if you popped one out in VLSI Lab class. =D |
EDIT: Oh yeah, you can likely do the same thing using the Mobility Modder program over at DriverHeaven. There is one for ATI cards and one for nVidia cards if I remember correctly.
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This! This is awesome. Thanks for pointing me in that direction. The tool does indeed make all the stuff for you, and will make my life much easier when it comes to upgrade dirvers. Thanks for that. It was exactly what i was looking for. Mobility Modder for Nvidia|
Originally Posted by Texas Justice
Yes. Laptops in college in '95. I have a few friends that were taking a program that had some computer repair classes along with some networking classes around that time, and one of the perks of the program was that you wound up with a laptop loaded with diagnostics software. True, you used the laptop the entire time you were in the program, but it wasn't a locked down system that kept you from loading anything.
EDIT: Oh yeah, you can likely do the same thing using the Mobility Modder program over at DriverHeaven. There is one for ATI cards and one for nVidia cards if I remember correctly. |
PS: my 95 me is jealous of your friend back in 95, I'd flux capacitor my *** back in time and swap his laptop with my compaq pentium ii!! shtbox that I kept until I was hired after college.
I just installed w7 x64 on my second laptop, which I've used to play CoH for three years now.
I was able to find and download updated drivers for xp x86 and play coh quite smoothly in the past. However now that I have upgraded to w7 x64, I seem to find myself in a tough spot.
The default drivers, that clevo offers for my video card (Quadro FX 2500M) give a black screen at logon.
Nvidia's website politely tells me that they wont touch the Quadro FX 2500M with a ten foot pole, it seems to be getting the mentally handicapped offspring treatment.
So I go over to laptopvideo2go and try to find drivers that will work fwith my card and w7.
For the life of me I cannot find one that works. Below is the coh helper output, I hope it will be of some help.
Anyone know how I can get the game to work with w7 and a quadro fx 2500m card?
---System information gathered by CoH Helper version 0.1.1.8---
DxDiag gathered at January 27, 2010 00:24 (+03:00)
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255)
System Manufacturer: Clevo Co.
System Model: M570U
BIOS: BIOS Revision: 1.01.06
Central Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7600 @ 2.33GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.3GHz
Memory: 3072MB
.Net Memory Report: 2082MB out of 3070MB available
Page File: 5165MB (972MB currently in use)
C Drive: (HTS721010G9SA00 ATA Device) 5324MB out of 19900MB (26%) free
D Drive: (HTS721010G9SA00 ATA Device) 69809MB out of 75383MB (92%) free
E Drive: (Hitachi HTS541616J9SA00 ATA Device) 47704MB out of 74998MB (63%) free
F Drive: (Hitachi HTS541616J9SA00 ATA Device) 51517MB out of 77626MB (66%) free
G Drive: (YXYLO 2ZSHURGX SCSI CdRom Device) zero-size drive
Windows directory location: C:\Windows
DirectX: DirectX 11
DirectX Diag version: 6.01.7600.16385 (64-bit version)
Display Notes: No problems found.
Sound Notes: No problems found.
No problems found.
Input Notes: No problems found.
Monitor:
Monitor's Max Resolution: (blank)
Video Device Name: NVIDIA Quadro FX 2500M [Dox Optimised 185.20]
Manufacturer / Chip: NVIDIA / NVxx
Video Memory: 1774 MB
Driver Version: 7.15.11.8520
Driver Date: 12/26/2008 9:20:00 AM
Driver Language: English
Sound Device Description: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)
Driver File: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7600.16385
Driver Date: 7/14/2009 3:07:00 AM
Sound Device Description: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Driver File: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7600.16385
Driver Date: 7/14/2009 3:07:00 AM
WMI Information
Motherboard Manufacturer: Clevo Co.
Motherboard Model: (empty)
Motherboard Product: CAPELL VALLEY(NAPA) CRB
Motherboard Version: Not Applicable
BIOS Manufacturer: Phoenix Technologies LTD
BIOS Name: BIOS Revision: 1.01.06
BIOS Version: ACRSYS - 6040000
BIOS Release: 20061130000000.000000+000
Registry Information for Current User
Resolution: 1133x904
3D Resolution: 1133x904 (Not using renderscale)
Full Screen: No
Maximized: No
Screen Position: 87, 1
Refresh Rate: 60Hz
Vertical Sync Enabled: Yes
Physics Quality: Medium
Maximum Particles: 50000
Max Particle Fill? 10.000
Physics Card Enabled: No
Anti-aliasing: None
Anisotropic Filtering: 4x
Texture LOD Bias: Smooth
Water Effects: High Quality
Bloom: 1.000 (turned on)
Depth of Field Enabled: Yes
Desaturation Effects (Sepia) Enabled: Yes
Shader Detail: Unknown (3)
World Texture Level: Very High
Character Texture Level: Very High
World Detail Level (Vis_Scale): 1.000
Entity Detail Level: 1.000
Shadows Enabled: Yes
Gamma Correction: 1.000
Geometry Buffers (VBOs) Enabled: Yes
Suppression of Extra Player FX Enabled: No
Suppression of FX When Camera Close Enabled: No
Close Suppression Range: 3.000
Show Advertisements: Yes
Audio Mode: Performance
3D Audio: No
FX Sound Volume: 1.000
Music Sound Volume: 0.600
Show Advanced Graphics Options: No
Overall Graphics Quality: 0.600
Reverse Mouse Buttons: No
Save Login Username: Yes
Transfer Rate: Unknown bytes/second
Current Game Version: 1600.20091102.9T4
Installation Directory: E:\CoH
Mod files in the Data directory
. has 79 files
.\Oldbindnomenu has 74 files
.\texts\English\menus has 7 files
.\texture_library\MAPS\city has 1 file
.\texture_library\MAPS\Safeguard has 9 files
.\texture_library\MAPS\sewers has 44 files
.\texture_library\MAPS\static has 34 files
.\texture_library\V_MAPS\Outdoor_Missions has 9 files
.\texture_library\V_MAPS\Static has 16 files