Any way I can get a couple of inactive account reinvites?
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Posted on: 2010-01-23 10:20 in Player Questions
Yeah I am willing to do that... PM with your e-mail.
Got a couple, thanks guys!
Well that seems a little disingenuous, it billed us immediately for one month each >.>
I put in a support ticket to get the accounts closed and the subscription refunded, hopefully they get back to us relatively quickly.
It did not bill you (check your bank, you'll see), it put your card on file. When your free time is up, your card will be billed. If you remove your card, you will not be billed when your free time is up.
I've done this before on my second account. It did NOT bill me until my free time was up.
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That's what I thought, I've used it before too on alternate accounts. It seems that either there was an error for some reason on both of our accounts today - or they changed the program without a proper explanation of the new rules.
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Jan 23, 2010 17153945 City of Heroes® [1 month subscription] $14.99 (USD) Paid
Created On: Apr 28, 2004
Account Type: Standard
Account Status: Playable
Playable Until: Mar 10, 2010
Subscription: none
Total Paid Time: 1 Years, 3 Months
Veteran Rewards Time: 1 Years, 7 Months
I went ahead and canceled my subscriptions as soon as I realized it had billed my card, but it looks like I was billed today for one months subscription - but I have about a month and a half of played time now.
Question: Has your account (KyleVance) been inactive for 90+ days? If not then you would be ineligible for the referral/reactivation time. Although it also states on the "Invite a Friend Back" page that it would show that your account has been inactive for 90+ days on your game account management page.
It may or may not have any bearing; just a thought.
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Yup, I checked before I made the forum post. Both accounts had been inactive for 90+ days (we havn't played CoH since Wrath of the Lich King was released).
Yeah. I just checked with my son's inactive CoH account, and it does ask for a CC, but I didnt follow through with the Referral. Perhaps when you get an answer from Support on this you would be kind enough to enlighten us here if this is a glitch in the system or a change.
Either way; good luck.
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Refer-a-friend works differently than "invite-a-friend-back" does.
People who already had an account before, already had their trial and know what the game is like. You have to subscribe for 1 month for each account to get the free time... at least that's how it was both times I reactivated my second account. I was charged immediately.
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Plus, it says so in the description of invite-a-friend-back:
#3 - When your friend reactivates their game account for a minimum one month of game time with a credit card or a 30-day or 60-day game time card, they will be invited to enter the Reactivation Credit Serial Code. Once this process is complete, you will each be credited 15 days of free game time to your City of Heroes®/City of Villains® accounts. IMPORTANT: They must enter this code in order for you OR them to receive any credit. As long as they do enter the code, you will split the 30 day credit.
I took it to mean (what it used to mean), that once we *actually* resubscribed to the game, and paid for a month, then the person who brought us back to the game would get their free bonus time. That's how every other program like this for MMO's I've played works, and how this one used to work if my memory (and apparently other people in this threads) serves correct.
The program doesn't even really make sense at that point, anyone who would participate in this program would be coming back to the game anyway - NCSoft is just giving away free time in that case. You still need to take the leap of faith that the game has gotten better and pay the $15 to resub.
NCSoft looks at it two ways :
A thank you for coming back/getting a friend back.
An enticement to actually come back/getting a friend to come back, as your money then stretches a little farther. The refer a friend does indeed work the way you were thinking, but I can't recall the invite-back ever working that way, nor have I played other games that use it.
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That's how the Refer-a-friend works.. but like I said, invite-a-friend-back doesn't.
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Originally Posted by KyleVance
I took it to mean (what it used to mean), that once we *actually* resubscribed to the game, and paid for a month, then the person who brought us back to the game would get their free bonus time.
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Originally Posted by KyleVance
The program doesn't even really make sense at that point, anyone who would participate in this program would be coming back to the game anyway - NCSoft is just giving away free time in that case. You still need to take the leap of faith that the game has gotten better and pay the $15 to resub.
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If it were the way YOU want it to be, then they'd be giving away the free time to the "friend" account without resubscribing anyway, which would surely get exploited by people rotating 3 or 4 accounts every few months for free... and that wouldn't really in the company's best interest... which is why making the re-subscription mandatory a reasonable thing.
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Originally Posted by Master-Blade
That's how the Refer-a-friend works.. but like I said, invite-a-friend-back doesn't.
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You still need to be gone for 3 months to qualify for the free time, so they've already lost that subscription time, and giving away a few extra days to encourage a re-sub isn't that bad... |
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In short it simply would not be practical to try and abuse the system, and if it did turn out that people exploited it for whatever reason - they could simply limit the amount of invitations you could send out in a given time frame.
Look, I'm just saying that the revival did not work how I had thought. I'm not saying "OMG if NCSoft doesn't refund me my $30 then I'm going to call my credit card company and file a complaint." I do realize it was my mistake, not theirs. The wording could be more clear, but I should have read it more carefully. I would *like* a refund, but I'm not expecting one. It's not even that I don't want to come back to the game - I just don't like spending money that I did not intend to spend. $30 isn't the end of the world, so if I end up throwing it away it's not like I plan to swear off NCSoft and Paragon Studios for the rest of my life. Oh well, hopefully I can convince my friends to play with me and it won't be wasted money anyway.
The only problem is, I showed them Champions Online first. Personally, I think City of Heroes is definitely the better game for the team - but saying "Just wait until you get into your 20's, the game gets better" isn't very convincing when they just played "Ooo shiny!" that is ridiculously cumbersome to group in.
Masterblade isn't referring to the sending account getting free time, but rather that the receiving account would be getting free time without ever resubbing.
Anyway, we hope they end up liking it here as well. Don't forget, you can also have them get trial accounts (use that refer-a-friend!) and have them team with you - that's perfectly within the limits and works well with SSK.
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Oh I know, my point is that nobody would abuse it to play the game for a week every 90 days. If you like the game enough to play, you play - if not, you don't play. If it was a week every 30 days I could see that - but the "must be inactive for 90+ days" stipulation pretty much kills that sort of abuse. |
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Masterblade isn't referring to the sending account getting free time, but rather that the receiving account would be getting free time without ever resubbing.
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Originally Posted by KyleVance
That's the plan. We wanted to get our "big" toons into the mix so they could get an idea for what the game becomes. The low levels of CoX are pretty "meh," but once your characters start to bloom - they *really* boom. :-D
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Originally Posted by KyleVance
Oh I know, my point is that nobody would abuse it to play the game for a week every 90 days. If you like the game enough to play, you play - if not, you don't play. If it was a week every 30 days I could see that - but the "must be inactive for 90+ days" stipulation pretty much kills that sort of abuse.
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You can send invite-a-friend-back codes to yourself if you are using it as a second account. I'm not saying it's the best method in the world to run extra characters at no charge, but I'm sure there's some people who might do it... especially for people with 1 main account and the second or 3rd account is just casual.. you could resub every once in a while without the extra charge. Maybe hardcore farmers or people with severe "alt-itis" would make use the extra accounts too.
No matter how stupid or pointless, there is SOMEONE who will go through with any moneysaving scheme. Not very many, but saying "Nobody would do that" is almost never right.
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Alright, but for the sake of argument let's just say it's a seven day duration (for a returning player seven days is more than enough to know whether the game is worth coming back to). It would take 13 accounts to do a rotation and keep a second one active. The best way to do it would be to buy them one by one, and cancel them as soon as the free month is up. Let's just say you can get them for $15 instead of $20 for argument sake.|
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No matter how stupid or pointless, there is SOMEONE who will go through with any moneysaving scheme. Not very many, but saying "Nobody would do that" is almost never right.
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That's still 13 months of actually paying. You could then finally start rotating them, and it would take you another 13 months to recover from that initial investment - over two years before you even broke even and could start "profiting" from defrauding the system.
I'm not saying nobody in the world would do it, and I'm not saying there aren't people who would do it with less accounts and simply not have two accounts up 24/7. I'm just saying that the benefit would outweigh the risk of abuse
But at any rate it doesn't matter, that's clearly not how the system works - and I don't see it changing anytime soon so this discussion is a tad on the pointless side.
My fiance and I bounce back and forth between several MMO's, City of Heroes has always been our "take a break from WoW" MMO. Anyway, this time around we've really grown attached to a couple of people we play Warcraft with and are trying to convince them to play City of Heroes with us.
The problem is, the low level game starts out a bit slow - and we want to show them what it's like once you get some real powers under your belt, so we want to show them our characters. We don't want to resubscribe to the game for what may end up being 3-days of trying to convince them to play with no luck.
Is anyone out there willing to send us a couple of "come back to CoH!" invites so we can access our higher level toons to show them around the game? If we can convince them to join, it'll turn into real re-subscriptions and you'll get some free play time out of the deal :-D
Thanks in advance!