What to do with my Plant/Earth Dom...


AegisWolf

 

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Ok good citizens of the Rogue Isles, after some calculations and checks I create my new I19 template, what you think of it?
Note 1: just imagine that Rest is Stamina with 3 SO EndMod slotted.
Note 2: before you say it, I won't take Seed of Confusion. I won't do it because, for my game style, I don't need it (since now I reached lvl 32 without any problems despite the lack of this power).

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Level 50 Science Dominator
Primary Power Set: Plant Control
Secondary Power Set: Earth Assault
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Strangler -- G'Wdw-Acc/Rchg(A), G'Wdw-EndRdx/Hold(3), G'Wdw-Acc/EndRdx(7), G'Wdw-Hold/Rng(13), G'Wdw-Acc/Hold/Rchg(15)
Level 1: Stone Spears -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29)
Level 2: Roots -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(A), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob(3), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx(7), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng(13), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob(15)
Level 4: Stone Mallet -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(5), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(9), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29)
Level 6: Super Speed -- Run-I(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 10: Hurl Boulder -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(19), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33)
Level 12: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 14: Tough -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 16: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Vines -- Lock-Acc/Hold(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg(21), Lock-Rchg/Hold(21), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(23), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(23)
Level 20: Heavy Mallet -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(27), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(27), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33)
Level 22: Weave -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(25), RechRdx(25)
Level 26: Carrion Creepers -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(31), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(36), AirB'st-Dmg/Rchg(36), Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(36)
Level 28: Seismic Smash -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 30: Stealth -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Fly Trap -- C'Arms-Acc/Rchg(A), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg(34), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), C'Arms-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34), BldM'dt-Acc(39), BldM'dt-Dmg(39)
Level 35: Mud Pots -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(40), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(42), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(42)
Level 38: Fissure -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(40), Posi-Dmg/Rng(43), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 41: Poisonous Ray -- UndDef-DefDeb(A), UndDef-DefDeb/Rchg(43), UndDef-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(45), LdyGrey-Rchg/EndRdx(45), LdyGrey-DefDeb/EndRdx(45), Achilles-ResDeb%(46)
Level 44: Scorpion Shield -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46), LkGmblr-Def(46)
Level 47: Disruptor Blast -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng(48)
Level 49: Summon Tarantula -- C'Arms-Acc/Rchg(A), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg(50), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), C'Arms-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A), Empty(11), Empty(11)
Level 1: Domination
Level 4: Ninja Run


The Natural Earth Saga: discover a new world and defende it from its many enemies!
"The Natural Earth" (Part 1, ID 69759), "The Homecoming" (Part 2, ID 125110), "The Cult of Kren'Goras" (Part 3, ID 435191), "The Mind Thieves" (Part 4, ID 522497)
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*Throws the towel in* I'm done here.



 

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Aegis,

Do you see that guy with the purple hair in your avatar? That's you.

Do you see that fist punching the guy with purple hair in your avatar? That is every other plant dom/troller hitting you for not taking seeds of confusion. It repeats itself ad nauseam for good reason.

Sincerely,

Plant Primaries


 

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I wouldn't go with Fighting, because you took Scorpion Shield and not a resist shield (and as far as I can tell you aren't bothered for +Def). And then there is the fact that you haven't slotted any of the powers. I count 6 single target attacks, overkill for sure, seeing as you should be spending just as much of you time controlling. But if you aren't taking Seeds you will be missing a big portion of your control. I skipped Vines because it didn't make sense for me to have as long as I could keep everything confused, and AoE hold recharge is ridiculous. Disruptor Blast is another power I try to stay away from. I didn't think the damage was too impressive when I tried it, and I hate redraw. Patron pets are also really meh, IMO. And at most I would give Fly Trap 4 slots, 1 of those being the Achilles Heel -Res.


 

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Think of Seeds of Confusion as the best AoE hold in the game. It stops mobs from attacking you; it causes more damage than any other hold (due to mobs wailing on each other) and it clumps those mobs together so you get the most milage possible out of your other AoE attacks. To top it off, it has 1/4 the recharge and a higher base accuracy than any AoE hold in the game.


 

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Originally Posted by AegisWolf View Post
Note 2: before you say it, I won't take Seed of Confusion. I won't do it because, for my game style, I don't need it (since now I reached lvl 32 without any problems despite the lack of this power).
"Guys, I have a melee character who does pretty well, but I don't want to take any Smashing/Lethal toggles. What can you guys do to help me? I've done just fine without it!"



I say this in jest, but it really is equivalent. Seeds=Plant's main 'armor,' in anything more than solo vs. +0/x0. You can go without it, but you have bypassed the set's go-to group mitigation. You'll also provide far less mitigation to any teams. Is this a conceptual decision?


 

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Originally Posted by AegisWolf View Post
Note 2: before you say it, I won't take Seed of Confusion. I won't do it because, for my game style, I don't need it (since now I reached lvl 32 without any problems despite the lack of this power).
Sure, no one needs Seed of Confusion, but taking it has allowed me to easily solo +1x8 mobs at level 45 and SOs in everything but 4 Damage Procs in Carion Creepers as a *CONTROLLER*!

Signed - Frozen Flora - 45 Plant Cold Controller


Beowulf -
Too many Alts, not enough 50's. Story of my life...

 

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Originally Posted by FatElvis View Post
Aegis,

Do you see that guy with the purple hair in your avatar? That's you.

Do you see that fist punching the guy with purple hair in your avatar? That is every other plant dom/troller hitting you for not taking seeds of confusion. It repeats itself ad nauseam for good reason.

Sincerely,

Plant Primaries


I laughed when I read this....and I agree

I have a Plant/Fire in Praetoria....oh me.

I had a mission in which I had to kill a metric ton of Destroyers, I think the number was 1000? They were weakened Destroyers, but still.... Seeds saved my tail. Without seeds, I would have either thrown up my hands in disgust, or, attempted the fight, and would have hit the debt cap for sures

Seeds FTW!

Lisa.


So don't wait for heroes, do it yourself
You've got the power
winners are losers
who got up and gave it just one more try

***Dennis DeYoung

 

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Take Seeds....

Seriously....

TAKE SEEDS!!!!!

That is all.


 

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*twitch*

No Seeds of Confusion?!?

That's like making a Stone Armor Tanker without Granite. Sure it's possible and it will work up to a point, but you're throwing away the core of the power set. Given the choice between taking only Seeds of Confusion and taking every other power in Plant Control, I'd take Seeds without hesitation (at least on a Dominator, a Controller needs one or two other powers for damage). Given the choice between having to spend eight power picks and thirty slots to get Seeds vs getting the rest of the set six-slotted for free, I'd still seriously consider Seeds of Confusion. It is quite simply the single best control power in the game. Get some decent recharge so you can use it every spawn and you don't need defense because most of the enemies are attacking each other rather than you. Get perma-Dom and you'll probably have the entire spawn, including bosses, fighting themselves unless you have really large spawns, and even then most will be occuipied.

At least try Seeds out. If you have a specific character concept that absolutely doesn't work with Seeds, that's one thing... but otherwise don't pass up the single best mitigation tool you have. It's sort of like a Fire Dom skipping Flashfire... except Flashfire still isn't nearly as good as Seeds.


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As the OP and having just renewed my account I should mention I finally got this character to 50. She's now Plant/Earth/Fire, and is already a monster with only a few sets. I did secure a purple set for confuse, and I have a bit of recharge going on. I'm going to be looking into shoring up defenses because even with low recharge bonuses she runs fine. I don't feel the need to get permadom thanks to Power Boost.

Mostly she's a control and AoE machine. Her only weakness is randomly getting killed.


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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

 

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Dispari, if you happen to still be looking here - have your power picks changed much from the initial post outside of the epic pool?

I've got a character with this combo sitting at 29, but in trying to make a competent build for her I continually stall on the fact that I have no clue in heck how to properly slot control sets still. :P


 

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Originally Posted by Reiska View Post
Dispari, if you happen to still be looking here - have your power picks changed much from the initial post outside of the epic pool?

I've got a character with this combo sitting at 29, but in trying to make a competent build for her I continually stall on the fact that I have no clue in heck how to properly slot control sets still. :P
Thanks to inherent fitness her build has changed slightly. I have the fire APP now and I picked up some LotG mules. I actually have some KCs slotted now so she has some defense too. She basically never dies now except for when I want to (for RotP). If I ever get around to buying purples I could probably hit permadom too.


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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU View Post
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

 

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Originally Posted by Dispari View Post
Thanks to inherent fitness her build has changed slightly. I have the fire APP now and I picked up some LotG mules. I actually have some KCs slotted now so she has some defense too. She basically never dies now except for when I want to (for RotP). If I ever get around to buying purples I could probably hit permadom too.
Hrmm, I have a Plant/fire that is just sick...I'd wager plant/earth would be different but the same kind of awesome...hrmmm.