Will this play Ultra Mode?
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Posted on: 2010-01-12 11:12 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
This machine should run Ultra Mode just fine. We're not sure how high you'll be able to turn up the settings in Ultra Mode as we're still fairly short on details, but from what's been said from an nVidia perspective, a GTS 250 is about where Ultra Mode will start at the lower settings. 
As for your RAM, do you need 12GB? 6 is more than sufficient for pretty much anything out there game wise or software wise. Unless you do something that's a lot more RAM intrusive such as video editing etc, I doubt it's necessary at this time.
We'll see....
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I don't know about "easily" but it should be able to run it at least fairly well. Positron said this about video card performance and Ultra Mode:|
Originally Posted by Crim_the_Cold
I just got my new comp in and I'm wondering if it will be able to handle ultra mode easily.
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| If you are looking to spend between $100 and $200, the Radeon HD 4890 and GeForce GTX 260 will do you well. We don’t have numbers from the Radeon 57xx series yet to verify if that is better or worse though. This would end up somewhere in the middle of Ultra-mode quality. |
RAM and CPU should be fine for City of Heroes itself. You'd only want more RAM if you intend to be doing a lot of other things in the background while CoX is running.
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Thanks for the conformation guys. It still amazes me how helpful people on these forums are compare to many of the gaming forums I participate in. I was also hoping to run the new crysis mod that turns crysis into mechwarrior. Either way this new pc is lightyears ahead of my old one and way faster, an example on my old one you start IE wait about 5 seconds and its up and running, on this pc its near instant. Also I didnt realize thsat there were two different DVI cords. I thought the one I've had for about 3 years was good enough but I was looking at the number of pins in it versus the pin set-up on my new cards and it is lacking a few so hopefully when I get off work today I'm going to go check my monitor and if its the same as my new cards I'll be getting a new cable and seeing what I've been missing.
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VC_PHYSX: NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1GB 16X PCI Express [+75] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
That line interests me. Does that mean he has a seperate card for PHYSX? I thought that didn't exist anymore. I thought PHYSX was now onboard each card and that CoX wasn't affected by that because it was written into/with old code that required the seperate Ageia/PHYSX card. Just something that jumped out to me.
Hey would you mind PMing me where you got that and how much? Don't post it don't want anyone to get in trouble. :-)
Powerstream I will be able to tell you if the physx option works in CoH when I get home if I get home this evening. Work kept me out till 9:30 last night so I only had time to unpack the comp, get windows set-up load my favorite anti-virus software and initiate the download for CoH. If its not done this evening or if i get stuck working another 12-13 hour shift I will be seeing red. I'll post later on today with conformation if it works or not pending my work schedule. Hope that I get houses that are easy to install in there are 7 installs and 11 repair calls remaining as off now 1:30 and only 5 other people working today so this may be a long day.
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It's not a seperate card. All nVidia cards have built-in PhysX now. That just appears to be some type of marketing mumbo jumbo attempting to point out the PhysX as a seperate entity even though it's not anymore.
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Originally Posted by PowerStream
VC_PHYSX: NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1GB 16X PCI Express [+75] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
That line interests me. Does that mean he has a seperate card for PHYSX? I thought that didn't exist anymore. I thought PHYSX was now onboard each card and that CoX wasn't affected by that because it was written into/with old code that required the seperate Ageia/PHYSX card. Just something that jumped out to me. Hey would you mind PMing me where you got that and how much? Don't post it don't want anyone to get in trouble. :-) |
We'll see....
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It is a seperate card that was advertised as being there just to handle that function. Now if I was sold a line of crap that be nice to know however there will probably be next nothing I can do about it at this point it just means I won't do business with them anymore.|
Originally Posted by Flameshot
It's not a seperate card. All nVidia cards have built-in PhysX now. That just appears to be some type of marketing mumbo jumbo attempting to point out the PhysX as a seperate entity even though it's not anymore.
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An update on my comp.... Apparently it is either sentient or possessed by the disembodied spirit of a forsaken angry child. I set it to update but not automatically shut off and I just checked with my roommate and it had shut itself off and interrupted my download again. I've also changed the settings so that it does not go into sleep mode by itself after a certain amount of time. I should've named the thing Johnny 5...
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Nivdia's drivers can leverage any G8x architecture card for PhysX, which helps Nvidia get around a particular caveat of using PhysX, at least on the current drivers.|
Originally Posted by Flameshot
It's not a seperate card. All nVidia cards have built-in PhysX now. That just appears to be some type of marketing mumbo jumbo attempting to point out the PhysX as a seperate entity even though it's not anymore.
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You can't actually enable hardware PhysX and hardware accelerated gaming on a single GPU. Nvidia says you can... but as was found out in Mirrors Edge single GPU testing, it didn't exactly work as advertised. Enabling hardware PhysX on a single GPU often lead to frame-rate problems. Hardware PhysX works best when it has a GPU of it's own to work with. In my own case with my triple SLI setup on GTS 250, I often get the rendering performance of 2x SLI in PhysX GPU enabled games, and performance goes up to around where 3x rendering should be if I turn PhysX off.
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| An update on my comp.... Apparently it is either sentient or possessed by the disembodied spirit of a forsaken angry child. I set it to update but not automatically shut off and I just checked with my roommate and it had shut itself off and interrupted my download again. I've also changed the settings so that it does not go into sleep mode by itself after a certain amount of time. I should've named the thing Johnny 5... |
Couple of steps I would take right now would be to run MemTest86+ : http://www.memtest.org/ : and make sure you weren't shipped faulty memory.
I'd also use tools like CPUZ and GPUZ to check operating clock-speeds and the base processor. www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php :: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
Make sure that the processor you bought is the processor that is actually in the system, and not one that was overclocked.
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Actually, you can have two different models of Nvidia card in your computer (like the tiny GT 220 with two GTX 260s) and the Graphics Drivers can be set to designate one of them as a "dedicated PhysX processor". It's like having one of the old add-in PhysX PCI cards, but faster and still market-available. With CoX I don't think it should do anything, but it matters for games like Batman Arkham Asylum.|
Originally Posted by Flameshot
It's not a seperate card. All nVidia cards have built-in PhysX now. That just appears to be some type of marketing mumbo jumbo attempting to point out the PhysX as a seperate entity even though it's not anymore.
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As to the original question, if that beast doesn't run Ultra Mode, something is seriously wrong.
I always tell people to stay away from the 2.66 ghz processors due to a bad history that I've had with that particular frequency.
But that should more than easily play ultra.
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Okay had a chance test it out last night with a much more complicated game, Crysis, and its running at close to max settings with no noticible slow downs. I have tested it with the physx card disabled and with it running and have noticed a small difference in how well it plays. The physx card does not do anything for CoH as far as I can tell the option is still greyed out in my options menu. Powerstream I'll send you a pm with where I bought it and what it cost.
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City of Heroes has only supported one particular iteration of PhysX cards, and that was before nVidia bought that company and integrated it into their GEForce series.
The PhysX programming for City of Heroes has not been updated since.
Also note that although some suspect the Going Rogue will support nVidia's PhysX, this is strictly a rumor at this point. There's isn't anything to indicate such an update but you never know.
We'll see....
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I think it's more likely we'll see PhysX dropped for OpenCL. OpenCL can be accelerated on all platforms, while PhysX cannot.
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Originally Posted by Flameshot
Also note that although some suspect the Going Rogue will support nVidia's PhysX, this is strictly a rumor at this point. There's isn't anything to indicate such an update but you never know.
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I agree. But just wanted to point out it was a rumor because I saw someone mention it may support the new PhysX even though there has been no evidence of that.
We'll see....
I just got my new comp in and I'm wondering if it will be able to handle ultra mode easily. Here whats in it off of my invoice.
CD: LG 22X DVD+/-R/+/-RW + CD-R/RW Dual Layer Drive (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: 16X DVD ROM (BLACK COLOR)
CAS: NZXT M59 Gaming Mid-Tower Case with See-Thru Window
CASUPGRADE: None
CS_FAN: Default case fans
CPU: Intel(R) CoreT i7-920 2.66 GHz 8M L3 Cache LGA1366
CARE1: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+19]
FLOPPY: None
FAN: Asetek LCLC 120 Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Extreme Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
FREEBIE_RM: None
FA_HDD: None
FLASHMEDIA: None
HDD: Single Hard Drive (1TB (1TBx1) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
HDD2: None
IEEE_CARD: None
KEYBOARD: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
MODEM: None
MULTIVIEW: Xtreme Performance in SLI/CrossFireX Gaming Mode Supports Single Monitor
MONITOR: None
MONITOR2: None
MOTHERBOARD: (3-Way SLI Support) MSI X58 Pro-E Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFire DDR3 Mainboard
MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) PC1333 DDR3 PC3 10666 Triple Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
OS: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
OS_UPGRADE: None
POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts Power Supplies (CyberPowerPC XF800S Performance ATX 2.0 Power - Quad SLI Ready)
PRINTER: None
PRINTER_CABLE: None
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SOFT1: Free 60 Days Microsoft(R) Office(R) 2007 (Words, Excel, Access, Power Point, Outlook + More) - Microsoft Windows OS Required
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: None
TEMP: None
TVRC: None
USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USBHD: None
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 CORE 216 896MB 16X PCI Express [+32] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 CORE 216 896MB 16X PCI Express [+222] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO3: None
VC_PHYSX: NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1GB 16X PCI Express [+75] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VC_GAMES: None
WNC: None
Should I upgrade the ram to 12GB or just leave it at 6GB. Also the two GTX260s are in SLI. Please help I'm kind of computer literate but not that literate. My intent when I bought this computer was to get a computer that will last me several years and will not become a mid range or low performance pc for a very long time.
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