Spines/WP Stalker Build


BigSung

 

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Couple of things before you see the build. I don't have wads of cash, that is why there are no purple or PvP IO procs. I had the Leadership pool with SoW on one build, but saw Assault was only increasing my damage a couple points, which will get DR'ed down, so I switched to Fitness. Any opinions or improvements will be appreciated.

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Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Fitness
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Barb Swipe -- T'Death-Dam%(A), Mako-Dam%(3), ImpSwft-Dam%(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(5), Mako-Acc/Dmg(5), F'dSmite-Acc/Dmg(7)
Level 1: Hide -- RedFtn-EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(7), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(9), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(9), RedFtn-Def(11), Krma-ResKB(13)
Level 2: High Pain Tolerance -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(11), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(13), TtmC'tng-ResDam(15), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(15)
Level 4: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal(17), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Rchg(21)
Level 6: Assassin's Impaler -- Mako-Dam%(A), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(21), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Mako-Acc/Dmg(23), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(25), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(25)
Level 8: Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(29), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(29), AdjTgt-Rchg(31)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- ULeap-Stlth(A), Jump-I(48)
Level 12: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), Range-I(31)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A), Jump-I(48)
Level 16: Indomitable Will -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(33), RedFtn-EndRdx(33), RedFtn-Def(33), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 18: Impale -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(34), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(36), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36)
Level 20: Heightened Senses -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(37), RedFtn-EndRdx(37), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(37), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 22: Mind Over Body -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam(39), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 26: Super Speed -- Run-I(A), Run-I(40)
Level 28: Stealth -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(42)
Level 30: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A), Jump-I(48)
Level 32: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 35: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(42), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(43), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(43), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(43), P'Shift-End%(45)
Level 38: Invisibility -- Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 41: Dark Blast -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(45), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(46), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 44: Fast Healing -- Heal-I(A)
Level 47: Shadow Meld -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), DefBuff-I(50)
Level 49: Phase Shift -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination



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The Only Token Black Guy

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Originally Posted by Murdok View Post
Your mom's real name is Castle.

 

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if i were u i would try to fit in a few more procs into ur AS and Impale...u dont need KB protection because if IW..so those should be replaced with LoTG's recharge...i know they can be pricey but u can buy em wit merits....a bit more acc would be great as well because ive been seein alot more defense peeps in RV nowadays...if anything just put the kismet +6% acc in hide or stealth since u will always be runnin those...and Shadow Meld doesnt help as much on WP..works better on Nin so i would go Leviathan..for hiber and SHARKSS!!! wit sharks u can go PEW PEW PEW!!!


 

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Hmm, gues you're right about Shadowmeld, it capped all my exotic damages, which would get DRed down to like 31ish? But that'd probably get cut through with all the accuracy & +tohit. Reworked it to where i have +27 acc before the kismet, would that be enough? Added a proc to both Impale & Shark, couldn't get 2 without dropping my Acc down to low. Why would you want Phase & Hiber? Phase for phasekilling and Hiber for get aways? Here's the new build.

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Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Fitness
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Barb Swipe -- T'Death-Dam%(A), Mako-Dam%(3), ImpSwft-Dam%(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(5), Mako-Acc/Dmg(5), F'dSmite-Acc/Dmg(7)
Level 1: Hide -- RedFtn-EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(7), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(9), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(9), RedFtn-Def(11), Ksmt-ToHit+(13)
Level 2: High Pain Tolerance -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(11), ResDam-I(13)
Level 4: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal(17), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Rchg(21)
Level 6: Assassin's Impaler -- Mako-Dam%(A), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(21), T'Death-Dam%(23), Mako-Acc/Dmg(23), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(25), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(25)
Level 8: Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-Rchg(15), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 12: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), Range-I(31)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A), Jump-I(15)
Level 16: Indomitable Will -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(33), RedFtn-EndRdx(33), RedFtn-Def(33), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 18: Impale -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(34), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(36), ImpSwft-Dam%(36), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(36)
Level 20: Heightened Senses -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(37), RedFtn-EndRdx(37), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(37), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 22: Mind Over Body -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam(39), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 26: Super Speed -- Run-I(A), Run-I(40)
Level 28: Stealth -- LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(48)
Level 30: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 32: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 35: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(42), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(43), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(43), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(43), P'Shift-End%(45)
Level 38: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(A), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 41: Spirit Shark -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(45), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(46), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(46), ExStrk-Dam%(46)
Level 44: Fast Healing -- Heal-I(A)
Level 47: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 49: Phase Shift -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination



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The Only Token Black Guy

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Originally Posted by Murdok View Post
Your mom's real name is Castle.

 

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bad stalkers take fitness.


 

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Originally Posted by black_barrier View Post
bad stalkers take fitness.
You are MFing crazy. WTF would you take Leadership on a WP. I'm dying to hear this.


 

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tactics and a LotG mule...


 

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and if that's wrong, keep in mind I'm the new guy here


 

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Originally Posted by LygerZero View Post
tactics and a LotG mule...
WP already has +perception...the Lotg are not worth running out of end trying to do drive by ASes.


 

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tactics also gives +tohit though doesnt it? Again...be gentle. lol


 

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yup it does. running sans fitness gives you a lot of options and you can build a decent wp build that gets good end rec and +end from ios but it can be expensive. I know wp stalkers who run them both ways.


 

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Originally Posted by __Divine__ View Post
You are MFing crazy. WTF would you take Leadership on a WP. I'm dying to hear this.
let's see... an inherent damage bonus that you dont have to slot for.
and 2 free power picks...

if that's not plainly obvious to you, you really must have some bad brain damage going on right there.

finally, if you're running out of end doing drive by AS's, you should really look into your slotting. something definitely wrong there.


 

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sooo....I was right?!?

More rep plz!


 

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Originally Posted by black_barrier View Post
let's see... an inherent damage bonus that you dont have to slot for.
and 2 free power picks...

if that's not plainly obvious to you, you really must have some bad brain damage going on right there.

finally, if you're running out of end doing drive by AS's, you should really look into your slotting. something definitely wrong there.
yea assault, that add's 10 extra dmg, and tactics that really does nothing except add some to hit. I don't see it barrier but ok.


 

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Honestly self capped perception is extremely nice. I spent awhile the other day tracking emps while everyone else was have trouble picking them up.

On the assault front, I find it kinda funny that people think its a waste yet build for +damage in their builds. People also should get over their fear of lack of fitness. it doesn't take much to get used to and really adds to the build.


I will say though I am one of very few people who go staminaless and I think of those people I am the only one still running anything besides sharks. I would hold that in mind when listening to me.


Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.

 

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Originally Posted by __Divine__ View Post
yea assault, that add's 10 extra dmg, and tactics that really does nothing except add some to hit. I don't see it barrier but ok.
tactics will actually give you superior perception than the perception powers from secondary sets. ask blood mark about that. his EA can see more stuff than my SR, and on several occasions i've actually had to get near him to see stealth capped ill/storms and the like.

furthermore, if you have +dmg coming in from assault, it frees you from having to build for excessive +dmg, and in turn you can make your toon work a hell of a lot better (no being forced to waste slots on dmg stuff that adds to your already capped hp and the like).

also, i wonder, when you AS, do bad archery blazing arrows come out?


 

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i can understand goin staminaless on a /regen cuhz...but i dont see it working on a Wp because u got so many more end drainers....I HAVE AN IDEA!!!
HOW ABOUT U PICK UP STAMINA AND LEADERSHIP!!!!
HELLL!!!! U DONT NEED SUPER SPEED SPRINT IS FINE!!!
hell screw Sj hurdle + sprint is fine!!!
a lil moar hell! u dun need phase or hiber!!!! DIE LIKE TRUE WARRIR!!!

DONT RUN ANY TOGGLES...USE TRAINING ENH!!!!!
RAWRRRRR!!!!!!


 

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The only time end usage is noticeable on my ele/wp is when I attack non stop for extended periods of time. And I do mean extended not just a heavy burst like 2 or 3 minutes with a hasten crash figured is what it takes to really hurt my end bar.


Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.

 

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I still prefer stamina and health.

Then again Im /nin

I like the regin, I run around 30% damage, and health lets me get in the uniques. Having a regin of 25 hp a sec on a /nin has saved my life more often then not. However, in anything besides a lag heavy RV zone, running staminia-less is really easy. Lag in RV can hurt your end bar, I have sat next to someone, and had to press AS 3 times to get it to start.

Damage is easy to slot for, there really is no reason why any stalker should have less then 15% damage bonus. Its just stupid easy to slot for.


 

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I would pull my scrot off with pliers before I ever did nin without stamina again. My first stalker was a spine nin that was staminaless til level 47 and a respec. Twas a painful experience to be sure.


Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.

 

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Originally Posted by ConFlict View Post
I would pull my scrot off with pliers before I ever did nin without stamina again. My first stalker was a spine nin that was staminaless til level 47 and a respec. Twas a painful experience to be sure.
Between the money and time I have invested in mine, a few GotA and my oft-running retsu carried me through staminia-less-ness easy. The surivability however was a far-cry from what it was with the regen I had from health.


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueDarkLord View Post
i can understand goin staminaless on a /regen cuhz...but i dont see it working on a Wp because u got so many more end drainers....I HAVE AN IDEA!!!
HOW ABOUT U PICK UP STAMINA AND LEADERSHIP!!!!
HELLL!!!! U DONT NEED SUPER SPEED SPRINT IS FINE!!!
hell screw Sj hurdle + sprint is fine!!!
a lil moar hell! u dun need phase or hiber!!!! DIE LIKE TRUE WARRIR!!!

DONT RUN ANY TOGGLES...USE TRAINING ENH!!!!!
RAWRRRRR!!!!!!
did your parents like drop you on your head or something?


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucky666 View Post
did your parents like drop you on your head or something?
NAhww cuhdzster i just PEW PEW on nubcakes like a pimp wit hiz bizzles


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueDarkLord View Post
NAhww cuhdzster i just PEW PEW on nubcakes like a pimp wit hiz bizzles

I'll take that as a yes


 

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Originally Posted by Lucky666 View Post
I'll take that as a yes
u would be correct

Rei is more literate in english then this guy

And thats sayin sum srs stuff


 

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Well, dropped fitness from the build & put in a couple more recovery bonuses along with a Miracle. Got up to about Stamina level recovery without any bonuses. Been out of PvP for a good while now so I don't know if 190ish% on my attacks is enough, plus the 10% tohit from Tactics. Tell me what you think.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.601
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Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Barb Swipe -- T'Death-Dam%(A), Mako-Dam%(3), ImpSwft-Dam%(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(5), Mako-Acc/Dmg(5), F'dSmite-Acc/Dmg(7)
Level 1: Hide -- RedFtn-EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(7), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(9), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(9), RedFtn-Def(11)
Level 2: High Pain Tolerance -- Mrcl-Heal(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(11), ResDam-I(13)
Level 4: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal(17), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Rchg(21)
Level 6: Assassin's Impaler -- Mako-Dam%(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(21), T'Death-Dam%(23), Mako-Acc/Dmg(23), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(25), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25)
Level 8: Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(13), AdjTgt-Rchg(15), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 12: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), Range-I(31)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A), Jump-I(15)
Level 16: Indomitable Will -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(33), RedFtn-EndRdx(33), RedFtn-Def(33), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 18: Impale -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(34), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(36), ImpSwft-Dam%(36), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(36)
Level 20: Heightened Senses -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(37), RedFtn-EndRdx(37), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(37), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 22: Mind Over Body -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam(39), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 26: Super Speed -- QckFt-EndRdx/RunSpd(A), Run-I(40)
Level 28: Stealth -- Ksmt-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(29), Ksmt-ToHit+(31), GftotA-EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 30: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(50)
Level 32: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(43), AdjTgt-ToHit(45), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 35: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(A), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(43)
Level 38: Strength of Will -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(42), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(48)
Level 41: Spirit Shark -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(45), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(46), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(46), ExStrk-Dam%(46)
Level 44: Fast Healing -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 47: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 49: Phase Shift -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- QckFt-EndRdx/RunSpd(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination



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The Only Token Black Guy

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