What is between issue and going rogue

Originally Posted by Eric Nelson

Seems to me another fairly simple possibility is giving the players (back) the ability to affect the difficulty in TFs/SFs (being able to increase it -- for purposes of this discussion I'm ignoring any possibility of lowering the difficulty, which obviously doesn't address GG's question about TF challenge levels).

The tech already (at least partially) exists, and was even applicable to TFs/SFs for a short period. Being able to crank a TF/SF up to various "insane" levels (perhaps even higher than the system currently in use for regular content) might be able to compensate somehow for the additional power given by whatever will boost level 50s (such as "universal enhancement slots" or whatever form the mechanic takes).

Originally Posted by Cien_Fuegos

hate to say it but i think devs were right about taking it away people were exploiting it....
as in lowering tf to -1 and soloing it or raising to +4 and farming for purples

Originally Posted by Aggelakis

No, people were dropping diff to -1 and then team-steamrolling it for the same merits as a team completing it on +4. THAT was the exploit, not either of the two you call out. Neither of those is bad.

Originally Posted by Aggelakis

Oh, there was also the bug with level-locked AVs (e.g. LRSF) spawning far lower if the diff setting was -1. I forgot about that part!

Originally Posted by Rajani Isa

Yeah, and thus steam-rolling the Master badges.

Originally Posted by Eric Nelson

Yes, which is why my suggestion covered only RAISING the difficulty level of TFs, not LOWERING it.

Originally Posted by Cien_Fuegos

hate to say it but i think devs were right about taking it away people were exploiting it....
as in lowering tf to -1 and soloing it or raising to +4 and farming for purples

Originally Posted by Rajani Isa

But it's all the same system. They *cant* get it to ignore just the -1 setting on a TF at the moment, but they *can* get it to ignore all of the rep settings.

Originally Posted by ZachsMind

I gotta admit, having only recently returned after a year hiatus, and not sure if I'm gonna renew or not a month from now, the only real thing that I wanna see is something I don't think they're interested in doing. More post Level 50 content.

Power customization? Awesome! Wanted to see that years ago and it's GREAT they figured out how to do it. Outstanding! However, pulling out the crayons on my old toons doesn't really encourage me to stick around. Kinda too little too late I'm sorry to say.

This Going Rogue thing doesn't interest me at all cuz I don't do CoV. I've tried but I just find the backstory and the environment kinda boring. Paragon City is simply more inviting than Rogue Isles. I'm sure Masterminds must be a blast to play and Dominators look like Controllers on acid. That's all well and good but I'd just like to do something with my fifty that didn't make me feel like I was wasting my time.

The Statesman TF is great. Don't get me wrong. Always fun to run through that again. And the stuff through the Midnighter's Club where you go back in time for some reason and ..I don't really understand it that much but they got Cyclopses! That's always fun to pound on multiple Cyclopses! ..Cyclopsi? What's the plural of that.. oh it doesn't matter.

Then there's the Shadow Shard.. meh.

Then there's the AE content but (and yeah i know its JUST a game and all that but still) wouldn't the idea of having AE keep heroes off the streets combating real criminals? It's awesome that players get to generate their own stories, but these stories are not integral to the events of the game itself, so it's really just more pointless than betting on those monkey things in Pocket D's basement.

I do enjoy making new alts. Spending more time doing that now that I've returned than playing my fifties, but you can only do the Hellions/Skulls thing so many times, and the sewers are a great way to hop to ten kinda quick but only if there's enough people online to do it with ya. And Positron desperately needs a face lift. Really, he does. I mean okay so his face is out of the suit, but the task force itself is still ...dang.

I miss my fifties. It's kinda why I left. I rerolled my fifties and tried playing them again on different servers, but its somehow not the same. It's like reading bronze age stories of the same characters after having experienced them in the golden and silver ages. It's fun but the magic is ..off.

It's not about the destination. It's the journey. There shouldn't even BE a destination. Fifty shouldn't be the end cap. Never shoulda been. I fear if CoX doesn't ever figure that out, well Champions Online isn't going to usurp it, but the first hero-oriented multiplayer game that DOES figure out how to have endless content regardless of a character's past accomplishments and experience? Guess where everyone's gonna fly?

Originally Posted by Cien_Fuegos

i agree player content has added to more things to do at any level..

( can use it at 1 5 10 15 20 25 etc to 50)

BUT...

one bad thing ae has is even with great stories ( will not mention names here) you have to wade through a lot of junk to get to the good stuff ( needle in haystack)
( cant even go by stars because some people get friends to 5 star them even thou its a bad story)
not everyone was cut out to be a comic book writer... no matter how many conventions/comic books u have under belt....out of 1000 maybe 100 are good and i think im high on that number

Originally Posted by Eric Nelson

Yes, which is why my suggestion covered only RAISING the difficulty level of TFs, not LOWERING it.

Originally Posted by ZachsMind

I gotta admit, having only recently returned after a year hiatus, and not sure if I'm gonna renew or not a month from now,...It's not about the destination. It's the journey.