Controller for zone pvp


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Maybe not very sturdy for zone pvp, but what would be a good combo for a zone controller?

Ice/rad? Ill/TA? I'm looking for something that might get a kill once in a while, which i'm sure will be hard since most will just superspeed or ps once you put toggles on them.

Thanks.


 

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Ill/TA would be pretty beastly.


 

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I agree on Ill/Ta. I should of added that I mostly pvp in Siren's.


 

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Ill/TA won't be getting any solo kills since it lacks damage and persistent debuffs other than Acid Arrow. You'll be useful on teams as disruption, between tossing holds, confuses, PA, Entangling Arrow, and Glue Arrow. Ice/Rad would be a better solo option - while nothing like it used to be, a damage-spec'd Ice/Rad can still be a pain to fight (though zone-wise there are better options, like Ice/Cold or Earth/Cold).


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I can see Ice/Rad, and maybe Ice/cold, but never thought about earth, cold. What makes it decent for zone Mac?


 

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Lots of -def, Stalagmites, and Earthquake or Quicksand to drop Stalkers' stealth.


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Ah, you know, never looked at it that way.

So, what do you think between earth/rad or earth/cold for zone? Which one would you 'lean' towards?


 

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Was just looking at the builder. Noticed Ice/ had arctic air which does -stealth. Is that viable for zone use to unhide stalkers?


 

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Very.


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i have a half-io'd ill/ta and it's a fun toon.
it does lack a lot of the damage that helps you be survivable in zone (kill or be killed), but it's a good team toon.


 

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Well, Im still rolling these ideas around.

So far im choosing from the following

ice/rad
ice/cold
ice/thermal

earth/rad
earth/cold
earth/thermal

mind/thermal
mind/cold

Since I tend to solo alot in Sirens and RV, Im leaning away from Ill/ since i'm told by you guys that its fairly low in dmg (at least when paired with /TA?)

Anyone have any experience with any of the combos ive listed?


 

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Earth and almost anything works well you can break stalkers hide with it as mentioned already here ..

I got earth/trick arrow its a little end heavy but plenty of tricks in the bag to help the team out ..

btw its pretty much a team toon lol but fun as hell


 

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If you make another earth/TA, I will make it my personal mission to kill you repeatedly. Ask fierce, I think I made him go emo one night.


 

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If you make another earth/TA, I will make it my personal mission to kill you repeatedly. Ask fierce, I think I made him go emo one night.
Lol, why so much hate on earth/ta?


 

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Cause eppy plays a stalker.


 

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Since TA appears to be a good disruption set, would it be crazy to just make a TA/Sonic defender instead for zone? I figure at least you would be able to do some nice ranged dmg. Maybe even TA/Ice? But I'm hearing Ice isnt so hot for pvp anymore.

I do have a cold/ice defender on guardian, but havent played him since like before I14, so not sure how he would do.


 

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If you're thinking of making a TA/Son or TA/Ice, I'd say it'd be better to make it a corr instead. That way you'll do more dmg and still have good disruption. You can still PvP with defenders but as PvP is now there really isn't any reason to play one.

I love my Earth/TA troller. It's just a shame he doesn't do much dmg.


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Originally Posted by snake1313 View Post
Since TA appears to be a good disruption set, would it be crazy to just make a TA/Sonic defender instead for zone? I figure at least you would be able to do some nice ranged dmg. Maybe even TA/Ice? But I'm hearing Ice isnt so hot for pvp anymore.

I do have a cold/ice defender on guardian, but havent played him since like before I14, so not sure how he would do.
No, simply because the biggest hurdle defenders have to deal with is to pick Perception (Tactics) or Phase. Not a fun choice.

Also, ice is bad.


 

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Originally Posted by snake1313 View Post
Since TA appears to be a good disruption set, would it be crazy to just make a TA/Sonic defender instead for zone?
No. Defenders are bad. They have no access to hibernoob, like every other squishy does. Which means you absolutely have to take phase. And their damage is fairly bad too. Basically a corruptor can do absolutely anything a defender can do, but the corr can do it better.


 

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Still tossing around build ideas for Sirens. Originally wanted something to combat the doms in Sirens. I've narrowed my choices to:

Ice/cold
Ice/ta
Ice/thermal

Ill/cold
Ill/ta
Ill/Thermal

I guess Ice/ would have arctic air and all the -recharges and slows. Ill/ would have Superior Invisi going for it, but not sure if that matters since i could just go steath and stealth io, and would have to dip into concealment anyway to get phase.

Any new advice? I did talk to a nice guy in Sirens last night that was on an Ill/ta that seemed to do well. I havent seen any /Thermal controllers though lately, or /cold.

Will continue my search! Thanks to all that respond. Probably going to roll this toon before Wednesday before I head outta town.


 

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I have an Ill/Therm, and I wouldn't really call it a zone build. Its like rough support and a bit of disruption. If you were going therm, I wouldn't use Ill for zones.


 

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Originally Posted by _Lith_ View Post
I have an Ill/Therm, and I wouldn't really call it a zone build. Its like rough support and a bit of disruption. If you were going therm, I wouldn't use Ill for zones.
What does Ill/ lack for zones? I thought Superior invisi would help some in that dept. So ice/ would be better for zone ?


 

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Originally Posted by snake1313 View Post
Still tossing around build ideas for Sirens. Originally wanted something to combat the doms in Sirens. I've narrowed my choices to:

Ice/cold
Ice/ta
Ice/thermal

Ill/cold
Ill/ta
Ill/Thermal

I guess Ice/ would have arctic air and all the -recharges and slows. Ill/ would have Superior Invisi going for it, but not sure if that matters since i could just go steath and stealth io, and would have to dip into concealment anyway to get phase.

Any new advice? I did talk to a nice guy in Sirens last night that was on an Ill/ta that seemed to do well. I havent seen any /Thermal controllers though lately, or /cold.

Will continue my search! Thanks to all that respond. Probably going to roll this toon before Wednesday before I head outta town.


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Originally Posted by ConFlict View Post
Very.
I like /FF with force bubble for this purpose.


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Originally Posted by Necromatic View Post
I like /FF with force bubble for this purpose.
Since I Siren's alot, that would mean i'd have to make a defender to have it available for that zone i guess.