I lol'd
"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict
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aw man, that video of him killing a half-afk scrapper shows massive mf skills.|
Originally Posted by macskull
By the way, here are some of this guy's PvP videos.
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anyways, yah, i remember this dude. this is the guy that said he could beat my fire/elec dom's face in on his tank, post pff nerf, so i messed with him in a lab map up to a tie. it was awesome how emo he got. like, think of spinezor getting emo over pre-nerf pff and multiply it by 10.
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If in any of those vids he was fighting someone that had any skill, I am betting they would have ended differently, I don't think the guys he fought knew that there is something called movement and evasion or escape powers or ......I could go on and on. Just terrible.
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Originally Posted by black_barrier
aw man, that video of him killing a half-afk scrapper shows massive mf skills.
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OLD SCHOOL PvP
Rad/Psi,Psi/Em,Fire/Em,Cld/Sonic,FF/Sonic,Grav/Ta,Storm/Psi,Sp/WP,Fire/Psi,Sonic/Pain
RIP:Southern Comfort PvP,PE PvP,INTEGRITY PvP,After School Special PvP Test SG's,TPvPL Season1+2 Runner ups
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Funny you should mention that! I was watching some old pvp vids last night and came across this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJKwA...eature=related|
Originally Posted by Psyrene
If in any of those vids he was fighting someone that had any skill, I am betting they would have ended differently, I don't think the guys he fought new that there is something called movement and evasion or escape powers or ......I could go on and on. Just terrible.
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After seeing a few of the others I recognized the name of the Shield/SS tank. Proof it doesn't take someone with any coordination to win.
*Warning* Painful to watch.
*edit* Whoops had the wrong link up. Equally painful to watch still. And yes all for 1 kill on both accounts.
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That was ******* awful.
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Originally Posted by MrLiberty
Funny you should mention that! I was watching some old pvp vids last night and came across this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZecjQXUKsVw
After seeing a few of the others I recognized the name of the Shield/SS tank. Proof it doesn't take someone with any coordination to win. *Warning* Painful to watch. |
Please god tell me that the entire 5 and a half minutes wasn't them fighting for one kill... I stopped watching about 30 seconds in.
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it was....<_<|
Originally Posted by macskull
Please god tell me that the entire 5 and a half minutes wasn't them fighting for one kill... I stopped watching about 30 seconds in.
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and yeah i remember that dude.....i think he said something like: "I am the best shield tank in game"...
Hiber is being talked about here like it's the equivalent of phase and it's really not.
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actually, unless you're fighting a storm team, it practically is.
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Originally Posted by SkeetSkeet
Hiber is being talked about here like it's the equivalent of phase and it's really not.
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roll a fender after rogue comes out. If you have to fend now, roll a cold/dark or rad/psi
Even after Defenders get Hibernate (assuming that's what will happen since I can't think of a new power pool that would get Focused Accuracy that wouldn't be a clone of something they already have) Corruptors will still be better because of their higher damage, Scourge, and higher base HP (and therefore more mileage from +HP set bonuses). There will be more parity between the two but I don't think there will be many build combinations where a Defender would be preferred over a Corruptor.
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cold/psi.|
Originally Posted by macskull
Even after Defenders get Hibernate (assuming that's what will happen since I can't think of a new power pool that would get Focused Accuracy that wouldn't be a clone of something they already have) Corruptors will still be better because of their higher damage, Scourge, and higher base HP (and therefore more mileage from +HP set bonuses). There will be more parity between the two but I don't think there will be many build combinations where a Defender would be preferred over a Corruptor.
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if hiber is in a pool with powerboost or webnades.
otherwise, we are back to square 1.001.
if power mastery got focused acc though, that would basically make defenders 100% viable again.
I don't see either of those happening, really... Ice Mastery will probably be something like the Blaster version (though they could take a leaf from Ice Armor's book and given the +def toggle some perception as well, which would make it unique among APP/PPP shields). Power Mastery won't get FA because it already has 5 powers and they missed their chance when they dropped Force of Nature into an already no-brainer choice of an APP (!?!?!?!).
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^ This|
Originally Posted by _Lith_
That was ******* awful.
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Oh I popped my ub0rpwnz one with shield and ended with no ende after "crash".....yeah...
That is why melee sucks.
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lol |
Originally Posted by _Nanu_
... why not carry greens? it's not like you need any other type of inspirations to survive, stop being lazy.
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@Ra Ra
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vigilance granting a perception bonus per member in the team = how to fix this ****.
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Originally Posted by macskull
I don't see either of those happening, really... Ice Mastery will probably be something like the Blaster version (though they could take a leaf from Ice Armor's book and given the +def toggle some perception as well, which would make it unique among APP/PPP shields). Power Mastery won't get FA because it already has 5 powers and they missed their chance when they dropped Force of Nature into an already no-brainer choice of an APP (!?!?!?!).
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That's not going to happen... what are you gonna call that power? icywebs? and power boost with hibernate has no concept there. But if anything power mastery might get FA and we'll see a whole new ice mastery EPP with hibernate, a def shield or permafrost, hoarfrost, and maybe freezing touch or greater ice sword, and or frozen aura. That'll will make def have an edge over corr if they can heal 580 and still have another heal going on. It's nice vs spike when ur emp is across the map and hibers down (and it helps with insp management in 1v1s). If they get permafrost, which has a good amount of dmg res and slow res, then defenders can pump out DPS in 1v1s vs slows. it's too early to say tho. But "hiber is in a pool with powerboost or webnades" is broke in concept, which the devs love to follow, and for power balance as well.|
Originally Posted by black_barrier
cold/psi.
if hiber is in a pool with powerboost or webnades. otherwise, we are back to square 1.001. if power mastery got focused acc though, that would basically make defenders 100% viable again. |
other than FA in power mastery (but thats not likely since Power has five powers already) i suspect this
Ice Mastery;
Freezing touch or Great ice sword (both of which have great activation times and dmg)
frozen armor or permafrost
Hoarfrost
Hibernate
and maybe ice slick, block of ice, or frozen aura (if they need a 5th.)
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Originally Posted by Neeto
That's not going to happen... what are you gonna call that power? icywebs? and power boost with hibernate has no concept there. But if anything power mastery might get FA and we'll see a whole new ice mastery EPP with hibernate, a def shield or permafrost, hoarfrost, and maybe freezing touch or greater ice sword, and or frozen aura. That'll will make def have an edge over corr if they can heal 580 and still have another heal going on. It's nice vs spike when ur emp is across the map and hibers down (and it helps with insp management in 1v1s). If they get permafrost, which has a good amount of dmg res and slow res, then defenders can pump out DPS in 1v1s vs slows. it's too early to say tho. But "hiber is in a pool with powerboost or webnades" is broke in concept, which the devs love to follow, and for power balance as well.
other than FA in power mastery (but thats not likely since Power has five powers already) i suspect this Ice Mastery; Freezing touch or Great ice sword (both of which have great activation times and dmg) frozen armor or permafrost Hoarfrost Hibernate and maybe ice slick, block of ice, or frozen aura (if they need a 5th.) |
PERMAFROST?? aww heeeelll no
weapons mastery for defenders with a web, kinetic shield and targeting drone.
(ie, how to make RPing trap defenders wet their undies)
That would be hot but Traps already has webnade
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Not web envelope though.|
Originally Posted by macskull
That would be hot but Traps already has webnade
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A port of mace with changes:
Wide Area Web Grenade
Scorpion shield clone
Targeting Drone
A hold
Something else lrm/frag grenade/whatever.
would be nice
WAWG
Surveillance
Body Armor (with the Defender mod for epic shields it might be decent unlike the Blaster version which is craptastic)
Targeting Drone
LRM
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corruptors have traps and that didn't stop mace mastery from having not one, but two webs.
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Originally Posted by macskull
That would be hot but Traps already has webnade
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What medications are you taking, and how do i get some. First off...lol this won't happen.....second...perception is least of the problems defenders have. I agree giving them ice mastery (hoardfrost, hibernate, and some form of perc. toggle.) will help greatly. But in the end corrupters and controllers still have the upper hand on them. Maybe if you upped the defenders base dmg and doing something to vig (giving them +perc in vig is lolzy) that is worth something. I'm sure BAD barrier will have something crazy too say. Hypnotic > Bad Barrier.
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Originally Posted by black_barrier
vigilance granting a perception bonus per member in the team = how to fix this ****.
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By the way, here are some of this guy's PvP videos.
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