?? on SR

I left a great deal of my in depth knowledge (not that it was very deep) with the Great Defense Nerf of 2005 and went on to build resistance based toons. After 5 years of play, and 21 honestly made (meaning NONE were of the "shake 'n bake" overnight kind or where the "PLMEH" variety) Level 50 toons I decided to make my first SR Stalker. Looking at the build I note 2 types of defense... that of Melee/AoE/Ranged and then specific type of defense like Energy or Psionic. In the game calculations, which type is done first? Is it like To-Hit and how it is figured in first, ahead of Accuracy, in the calculations? How is Defense figured if (just giving a number here) you have 10 Melee Defense and then have 10 Smashing Defense? One last question, I was always told that SR was hard to play, heavy cost to endurance, and only really good for PvP. I have found that to be untrue personally, he survives as well or better than my Regen/Dark Scrappers I made and seems average to light on Endurance, did something change? The only real nemesis I have found so far has been DE Guardians with that crystal pet of theirs. FYI the build is Dark/SR and I mostly solo at a 3/+1 since level 23 and the toon is now 44. Oh has anyone else found the level 32 big power of Dark Scrapper/Stalker to be rather anti-climatic as I did? Thanks to any who take the time to answer and Merry Christmas to all.

Two words, white space.

Let's see if I can fix this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airman_America I left a great deal of my in depth knowledge (not that it was very deep) with the Great Defense Nerf of 2005 and went on to build resistance based toons. After 5 years of play, and 21 honestly made (meaning NONE were of the "shake 'n bake" overnight kind or where the "PLMEH" variety) Level 50 toons I decided to make my first SR Stalker. Looking at the build I note 2 types of defense... that of Melee/AoE/Ranged and then specific type of defense like Energy or Psionic. In the game calculations, which type is done first? Is it like To-Hit and how it is figured in first, ahead of Accuracy, in the calculations? How is Defense figured if (just giving a number here) you have 10 Melee Defense and then have 10 Smashing Defense? One last question, I was always told that SR was hard to play, heavy cost to endurance, and only really good for PvP. I have found that to be untrue personally, he survives as well or better than my Regen/Dark Scrappers I made and seems average to light on Endurance, did something change? The only real nemesis I have found so far has been DE Guardians with that crystal pet of theirs. FYI the build is Dark/SR and I mostly solo at a 3/+1 since level 23 and the toon is now 44. Oh has anyone else found the level 32 big power of Dark Scrapper/Stalker to be rather anti-climatic as I did? Thanks to any who take the time to answer and Merry Christmas to all.

The way multiple types of defense is handle is the To Hit calculation will take the best one based on the attack. For instance if you have 10% defense against range attacks, 30% against smashing and you get attacked by a range/smashing attack your defense will be 30%.

This should answer most of the questions regards defense mechanics: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Defense

@SpaceNut - My 50s, AE arcs and current projects at ParagonWiki

In cases like that, the highest of the defense numbers is the one that applies. Like if you had 10% defense against ranged and 20% defense against energy, then you would have 20% defense against a ranged energy attack since that is the higher of the two.

Yeah, you need to put the way Resistance works out of your mind. With Resistance, each Typed Resistance (50% Smashing / 35% Lethal) gets applied to all corresponding types of incoming Damage (100 pts Smashing / 100 pts Lethal becomes 50 pts Smashing / 35 pts Lethal).

With defense, the highest Defense number is used for the ToHit Roll. (So, if you have 30% Melee Def / 20% Smashing Def / 10% Lethal Def, then versus any Melee attack that does Smashing/Lethal, you're Defense in the ToHit equation is 30%... the highest of the three).

So, for Defense toons, you'll either want to focus on shoring up you Positional Defenses (melee/ranged/AoE) or your Typed Defenses (s/l/e/n/c/f). Since toxic and psi attacks often don't have corresponding Defense or even a Positional attribute attached to them (that's right, a mental attack that's neither melee, ranged, nor AoE)... then you'll still want to find toxic/psi Resistance.

OP said:
[quote]I was always told that SR was hard to play, heavy cost to endurance, and only really good for PvP. I have found that to be untrue personally, he survives as well or better than my Regen/Dark Scrappers I made and seems average to light on Endurance, did something change? [...] FYI the build is Dark/SR and I mostly solo at a 3/+1/[quote]

The way Defense [and Acc Debuff] works in this game is that 45% Defense protects you twice as well as 40% Defense, which protects you twice as well as 30% Defense which protects you twice as well as, umm, 10% defense.

Yes, 45% is eight times better than 10%.

Also, 90% protects you just as well as 45%, almost all the time.

(You subtract it from the enemy To Hit, which is almost always 50%, and multiply that by a number based on their level and rank. So a +2 boss always hits 1.56 times as often as an even-con minion.)

Dark Melee has -ToHit in every attack. So it works very well with SR to get enemies down to the "ToHit floor".

Congratulations on finding an excellent pairing!

Zombie Man: