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The bolded part doesn't fly for me. I remember when ALL outcasts had elemental powers, not just the level 10 or 15+ ones. The developers DO change mobs if they are overpowered.|
Originally Posted by Autonomous Prime
I think it may have started when the devs realized that the 5th Column is really overpowered at lower levels. For instance, some of their troops in the level 1-15 range get Martial Arts attacks(status effects included), grenade or rocket launchers with knockback, rifles that can reduce recharge speed, or area of effect attacks in general(even minions). The Mek Men have Energy Melee attacks that disorient(which includes a point-blank area of effect attack and Stun), and Vampyr Mesmerists have a hold power(even worse, both units are minions).
Then, before they could get to work toning down their abilities, somebody in Legal misunderstood the German laws against portraying Nazis. Everyone overreacted and decided to instead create a whole new villain group to replace them, and worked on removing every reference to the 5th Column, even changing the game's backstory in places like having Atlas die fighting off the Council in the 50's instead of the 5th Column/German forces in 1941. They can't honestly deny it, because we're still seeing variations on "that group that got their butts kicked by the Council". As a side effect, the 5th Column are STILL friggin' overpowered in the lower level ranges! They seriously need to be nerfed! |
And I seriously doubt the law bit. As I recall, there were several games where players could play as Axis/Nazis or at least against them (Wolfenstien, for example) released before CoH. And that would be a VERY sloppy move to make for an international company.
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Originally Posted by Autonomous Prime
I think it may have started when the devs realized that the 5th Column is really overpowered at lower levels. For instance, some of their troops in the level 1-15 range get Martial Arts attacks(status effects included), grenade or rocket launchers with knockback, rifles that can reduce recharge speed, or area of effect attacks in general(even minions). The Mek Men have Energy Melee attacks that disorient(which includes a point-blank area of effect attack and Stun), and Vampyr Mesmerists have a hold power(even worse, both units are minions).
Then, before they could get to work toning down their abilities, somebody in Legal misunderstood the German laws against portraying Nazis. Everyone overreacted and decided to instead create a whole new villain group to replace them, and worked on removing every reference to the 5th Column, even changing the game's backstory in places like having Atlas die fighting off the Council in the 50's instead of the 5th Column/German forces in 1941. They can't honestly deny it, because we're still seeing variations on "that group that got their butts kicked by the Council". As a side effect, the 5th Column are STILL friggin' overpowered in the lower level ranges! They seriously need to be nerfed! |
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
The bolded part doesn't fly for me. I remember when ALL outcasts had elemental powers, not just the level 10 or 15+ ones. The developers DO change mobs if they are overpowered.
And I seriously doubt the law bit. As I recall, there were several games where players could play as Axis/Nazis or at least against them (Wolfenstien, for example) released before CoH. And that would be a VERY sloppy move to make for an international company. |
Though I guess I should have specified more that I was just speculating when it came to mentioning someone in Legal misunderstanding the German laws, and an overreaction from the company. Even if NCsoft is an international company, they're still only human. Plus, bear in mind that Cryptic Studios(and not just the people that went over to NCsoft/Paragon Studios) still had a say in City of Heroes when the 5th Column got removed. You know what they say about too many cooks spoiling the broth.
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The Council are basically a rebalanced 5th Column, mechanically.
I don't know what all the fuss is about. This is obviously one big Nemesis plot.
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