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My favorites are the "Peeps! Make me an uber build!" types who return to the thread an hour later to complain it hasn't yet been done for them.

I thought about posting a longer and more detailed rant about that, but I can't be bothered. Would one of you do a really good writeup of why that's annoying, and post it here, so I can cut and paste it?

While i wouldn't do it, i don't have a problem to seeing people ask for builds. I enjoy making builds and playing around with the numbers, but i know a lot of my friends who doesn't. Even a vet-ier friend then me often ask me to do is character in LARPs.

What i hate is those who "ask" rudely for a build. Or those that totally forget to give any details. "Make me the best pvp build!" without saying wich sets he wants.... or "make me the best elec/WP!" without mention what he's planning to do with it. (solo/team, PvE/PvP, etc)

If you want someone to work for you, you could at least be bothered to work on your demand so it's clear what you want.

Another thing that i hate, while it's not totally related to the "build question", is when people ask for advice in a negative way. "why does X sets sucks" when the person admit in his post not knowing anything about the set.


P.S. All those who attack the OP about him being too serious about a game.... that's exactly what you're doing. Except that you take it far more seriously then he ever did. =P

Does it hurt anyone to help some n00b? Even if they say "price is no object" they are usually looking for the end of the road, not the journey. I find it rude that people act like gaming should be just like it was back in the good ol days of AD&D. When you guarded your character sheet with your life. You were the best cause you kept all the secrets to your self.

I have many times asked for a build. Usually its to see what people would do, but it almost always gives me ideas. Makes me think about WHY they may have picked power A over power B. I may not use it, but it helps me as a player find better ways of playing. If you dont like that people ask, then dont read. I dont like knockback or empathetic. I love ele/ blasters. I join those convos, i read the discussions, i debate. You don't have to read my words. You dont have to read my posts. You can skip them all.

The only types of post i got tired of was: MA/AE is ruining the game, and SSK is ruining the game. I got tired of those cause nothing new came up with them after a while..... it was all the same doommongering.

So feel free to debate if people should or shouldnt ask for help, but if you are against helping others, I'd hope you NOT ever ask for help from anyone.

And I'll agree, rude demanding posts are a pain.

There's nothing wrong with it. Some people like to just make builds. I'm one of them. Sometimes I'll work up a build for someone, sometimes I don't feel like it. If you don't like people asking for builds, just ignore them.

Thanks everyone for coming and posting comments- it is refreshing to hear what other people think about the subject. For the record, I wouldn't go into a thread where someone is asking for a complete build be made for them and start a ruckus. I suppose that is the point of discussing the matter here- we can discuss and I don't have to worry about griefing anyone about something I don't personally subscribe to doing.

I can see people wanting everything handed to them, particularly new players who may not have a good understanding of the game. Typically I offer suggestions though instead of an outright build. I will frequently provide a framework, such as my first 20 levels of Invulnerability guide but it's rare that I'll do everything for someone.

Things like "You'll want power X, Y & Z as soon as possible and you'll want power W sometime but it's lower priority than power A." or "Power B is generally skippable because ________" That approach gives them the information they really need to avoid gimping themselves while helping them figure things out. Giving them a complete 1-50 build complete with slotting doesn't help them nearly as much.

I've pretty much given up trying to suggest things to PuG players with absolutely terrible builds; generally even something like "You'll have an easier time if you take Unyielding on your tanker" frequently aren't well received. I actually mentioned that to a tanker playing a level 40 ish Invuln on a PuG awhile back and was told that HE was an uber veteran and knew everything there was to know about tanking and Unyielding was a crap power. Obviously I couldn't know anything about Invuln, he was the tank; I was only playing a dark defender. Ah well, I just had to go ahead and handle the tanking myself... as a dark/dark defender.

Personally, I craft my own builds and design them to do what I want. I don't generally share them unless asked, because I have a lot of personal rules that I don't feel like explaining and justifying every time. For instance, I'm not going to change travel powers, underslot High Pain Tolerance, or skip Grant Cover. I generally cringe seeing builds anyone else made, because they always skimp a ton in certain areas to achieve things, and that drives me nuts.

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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.