Quick question: No Duel Pistols for us scrappers?
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Blasters can softcap ranged defense and/or smash/lethal defense
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Originally Posted by xen10k
I don't think it's the fact that they associate Dual pistols with scrappers.
They associate SR with pistol using. Lately, gun fighters are not the stand up, quick draw fighters we had in westerns. They are matial art dodgers with a weapon in their hand to shoot their enemy while dodging everything thrown at them. The shooting is cool, The dodges and moves they've got are _really_ cool. Now, which AT has a power set that allows dodging and slick defensive moves? last I checked, it wasn't blasters. ( I'm not saying they have actual dodge graphics, but the idea behind the Power) I admit, I wanted a DP/SR scrapper. I love the concept. It's not likely to happen and I get that and am willing ot deal with it. But it's still a cool concept and I can still dream. |
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Originally Posted by Moonlighter
No John Woo love? The Killer? Hard Boiled?
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Holy Smokes! I didn't know my question was gonna spawned into this discussion. I'm all about GUNG-FU!!! If anything I would love this to be a Epic Power. Missy K is getting tired of Body Mastery....I got the pistol but not as cool at the Dual Pistols! Maybe Im bias but I love John Woo films
I dont needs no guns.
I slices and dices fast enoughs that shooting is irrelevants.
And stuff can shoots me, but not like I feels it anyways.
So, in short: No.
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Originally Posted by xen10k
I don't think it's the fact that they associate Dual pistols with scrappers.
They associate SR with pistol using. Lately, gun fighters are not the stand up, quick draw fighters we had in westerns. They are matial art dodgers with a weapon in their hand to shoot their enemy while dodging everything thrown at them. The shooting is cool, The dodges and moves they've got are _really_ cool. Now, which AT has a power set that allows dodging and slick defensive moves? last I checked, it wasn't blasters. ( I'm not saying they have actual dodge graphics, but the idea behind the Power) I admit, I wanted a DP/SR scrapper. I love the concept. It's not likely to happen and I get that and am willing ot deal with it. But it's still a cool concept and I can still dream. |
Yes, you can go the blaster route and IO out the toon, but that's just it. You have to IO it out.
However, instead of giving it to scrappers, I've actualy thought of a different idea.
Combine the new Dual Pistols with Martial Arts, for an assault set. Have the pistols not disappear when using the martial art powers.
Now. Dominators just recieved a new set.
But don't end it there, because quite frankly, some of us out there don't want a Control Set.
Make a new AT. Assault/Defense. High Damage/Low Hit Points.
Epics can be team buffs/debuff powers (possibly at MM levels), and a pets...maybe some self utility powers too or a hold and immobilize...basically epic powers that really round out the toon.
Now people can have the gunfu/sr scrapper they've wanted (I know when I bought this game 5 years ago, I was wanting something akin to Dual Pistols/WP Scrapper, as WP mixes SR and Regen concept nicely imo).
But they can also have Fiery Assault/Fire Armor AT! Or Ice Assault/Fire Armor! Or Energy Assault/Invulnerability...ect...ect...ect.
Seeing as how VEATS fall into this category nicely, and how you can trick out Dominators already to have Perma Mez Protection, good defense, and a armor...this really seems like a good idea for an AT imo.
The only reason I can see not to do it, is they may fear that everyone will be playing this AT, as it does the one thing the other ATs haven't been able to do yet...give a player exactly what I said before...a nice well rounded toon.
It's what I loved about the VEATS, and would love more about the Kheldians, if they didn't feel as well...kheldians I guess. :P
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Where's my rad/rad, energy melee/energy aura, and sonic/sonic scrapper? =O what about psi/psi? illusion/ scrappers anyone?
Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.
How about before we get ANOTHER crappy S/L Set, they give us some more Elemental Love.
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Originally Posted by Jeminiks
How about before we get ANOTHER crappy S/L Set, they give us some more Elemental Love.
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duel.. dual... oh DAMNIT.. now the forums have got ME confused...
duel: a prearranged fight with deadly weapons by two people
dual: double: consisting of or involving two parts or components usually in pairs
Ok, good... I got it right.
Anyway... dual pistols gets a change ammo power. It *IS* an elemental set. Or Lethal. Betting on Lethal, Fire, Cold and Toxic.
Be well, people of CoH.
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Originally Posted by Moonlighter
No John Woo love? The Killer? Hard Boiled?
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In Equilibrium, it really was "gun-fu". The Grammaton Clerics were using their firearms as an integral part of their martial arts (though they clearly knew how to fight damn well without them). The distinction is that most John Woo or any other movie's characters (including UltraViolet) feature Scrappers who occasionally fire a gun. In Equilibrium, they really are Scrappers with a Gun powerset.
PS: I don't think UltraViolet would even come into the discussion except that its fights so obviously shared visual styles that people recognized from Equilbrium.
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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
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Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
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Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
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Shadowslip: 50 DDC
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Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Make it an epic so I can get my Dead Pool and Matrix on! That is all...
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Originally Posted by Rieze
Make it an epic so I can get my Dead Pool and Matrix on! That is all...
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Originally Posted by Rieze
Make it an epic so I can get my Dead Pool and Matrix on! That is all...
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