Question about the server


Celestial_Lord

 

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I am using the trial version and there is like no one on it. Are things different for the trial and full or is everybody on a different map?


 

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champion server kinda dead... so most are in cap or Grand and randomly throught the zone


 

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You probably came on early on in the morning, it is kind of dead for a couple of hours if your in Atlas. Click TEAM, then FIND on top of your chatbox and you will see a list of who is on and in what zone. Many of us were probably in another zone.


 

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no i have checked it throughout the day and all the severs are always light


 

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i remember the old days when there were loads of people running around. they should lower the price to play so people would continue.


 

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Originally Posted by once ace View Post
i remember the old days when there were loads of people running around. They should lower the price to play so people would continue.
how about they fix pvp first?


 

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The City of Heroes subscriber base is down. The game has taken a hit, between Aion, Champions Online, and the economy. Unfortunately, it will only get worse when Star Trek Online debuts in February. But it should grow back up a bit once Going Rogue releases around May.

Despite the declining population, Champion's blue side is still fairly active. It requires a bit more work to find teams than it did two years ago, but it's still more than feasible. I'd suggest sending a global tell to @Cobalt Azurean for an invitation to the BMT of Champion global channel, where people announce strike / task forces, giant monster teams, etc.

Now, if you prefer playing redside... honestly, you may be better off on Freedom, Virtue, or Justice. Those are the only three remaining servers with a decent redside population for teaming, sadly. Not to say that Champion's redside is completely devoid of life, but it's much less active than blueside, and finding teams is much more difficult. I played redside Champion exclusively for over a year, and 90% of my time was spent solo.


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Redside is, admittably, not exactly crowded; but it often shows a better population on the weekends.

The server isn't dead; there's always someone else on no matter what time of day it is, although really, you'll find more online during evenings and weekends - anytime after 6pm EST is usually your best shot.

Champion's more of a community-centered server rather than a huge, huge population server. If you're looking for large amounts of players, Champion might not be for you. But if you want a community that's closer together, Champion might be a better bet. It really depends on your taste.


 

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I WANT TO PLAY WITH LOADS OF PEOPLE INSTEAD OF WALKING AROUND IN A GHOST TOWN!!! Which server has the most people on hero side. Would it hurt if everyone just played on two servers?


 

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Freedom has the most people. A server merge at the moment is doubtful. Besides, not everyone wants to play on a crowded server, for various reasons. For one thing, available character names would be much more scarce.


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Originally Posted by Once Ace View Post
I WANT TO PLAY WITH LOADS OF PEOPLE INSTEAD OF WALKING AROUND IN A GHOST TOWN!!! Which server has the most people on hero side. Would it hurt if everyone just played on two servers?
Also since your on the Trial version you will not see all of the chatting that is going on.

AP is kinda dead last time I started a new toon


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In addition to what was said above, about being in the right zone/right time, global channels, and missing chat due to the nature of the trial... A lot of the action that happens on Champion is within Supergroups. When I get on one of my toons it is usually pretty easy to find a team with my SG, and I've noticed fewer pug invites than when I'm on Pinnacle, Protector, or Virtue.

It never hurts to have toons on more than one server- lots of people do it for many different reasons. If you are looking for lots of people on at any one time, and can't join an SG, etc.- I'd go to Virtue, Freedom, Infinity, or Justice, but don't give up on Champion completely.


 

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Originally Posted by Once Ace View Post
I WANT TO PLAY WITH LOADS OF PEOPLE INSTEAD OF WALKING AROUND IN A GHOST TOWN!!! Which server has the most people on hero side. Would it hurt if everyone just played on two servers?
I shall assume you are young, given the shouting caps and the preferences you seem to be imposing upon people you have only just introduced yourself to. The rest of the playerbase does not revolve around your play schedule or choice of server(s).

There are players on any server. Keep looking, and you will find them. In the meantime, you may want to consider being the type of person that people would want to play with, once you do find them.


 

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Take the advice about joining BMT. Before I did I sometimes found it hard to find teams. Not any more!

Additionally, on that channel you'll meet a lot of experienced, long term players.

Remember that a trial account is limited, as was pointed out above, and you will miss a lot of what's going on until you're on a full account.


 

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Originally Posted by Shaytanah View Post
Take the advice about joining BMT. Before I did I sometimes found it hard to find teams. Not any more!

Additionally, on that channel you'll meet a lot of experienced, long term players.

Remember that a trial account is limited, as was pointed out above, and you will miss a lot of what's going on until you're on a full account.
You cannot use any channels but local, team and help on a trial account. This excludes global channels, sending tells and talking in broadcast and request. (Though you can see the broadcast and request channels.)

The OP seems a little, well, demanding* to me so far, and going all capslock when people aren't telling you what you want to hear does seem a bit childish.

The fact is that while Champion is quite active, very little of that activity occurs in the low level zones except on weekends.

If you want to play on a server where there will usually be a fair number of players in Atlas Park and the other low level zones at most hours, then i'd suggest Freedom or Virtue. Freedom is the somewhat better choice if you're looking for a server where capslock demands are expected when someone doesn't immediately get what they want. Since you're on a trial account you're limited to level 14 and barred from global channels, so Freedom and Virtue really are your best choice right now.



Once Ace, feel free to come back and play on Champion if you get a full account. There's a lot that happens here, but it's mostly coordinated through global channels.





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You're generally not going to find a ton of people walking around in the zones no matter where you go, the game is heavily instance based.


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wans't being childish. you just can't see my expression on this side of the computer. All im saying is it isn't what it used to be. thank guys though for all the input.


 

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Originally Posted by Once Ace View Post
you just can't see my expression on this side of the computer.
Are you certain of that...?


 

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Originally Posted by Once Ace View Post
wans't being childish. you just can't see my expression on this side of the computer. All im saying is it isn't what it used to be. thank guys though for all the input.
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Originally Posted by Once Ace View Post
I WANT TO PLAY WITH LOADS OF PEOPLE INSTEAD OF WALKING AROUND IN A GHOST TOWN!!! Which server has the most people on hero side.
So, that was grown up? You're right, most of us can't see your expression, so we have to go by the words you write.

Welcome to the internet where others can only go by what they see when viewing what you write/post, and not your expression or tone of voice when you wrote it. Someone could be sitting there with a beatific expression gently petting the kitten they rescued from a burning building, but if they post "UR A BUNCH O TERDBURGLNG COEKHEDS1!" we'll just have to pretend we can't see the Nobel Peace Prizes hanging on the wall behind them and react to what's posted.

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Would it hurt if everyone just played on two servers?
Yes, it would. The reasons are numerous and explained repeatedly in other sections of the forums.

Someone posts MERGE DUH SERVERS NAO!!11!!!1!!1! every other week or so because no one on their chosen server will team with them.

Try searching for "server merge".
Most threads will feature this:
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From Memphis Bill

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Why server consolidation is not a good idea.

Welcome to the forum. You have posted one of the oft repeated suggestions, "Consolidate the servers."

Disclaimer

Yes. This is a cut and paste reply that I keep handy, as well as a quick bit of instruction on how to search. Neither are meant to cause fights or to be insulting. The search instructions are in, not just because forum rules say flat out to search, but to help you and anyone else reading this use the search tool effectively.

The body of the cut and paste reply is the way it is because we've seen these arguments numerous times before. They're a summary of the salient points that come up each time. They are not here to insult you, make you feel stupid or otherwise "bring you down a peg." Instead, they are meant as instruction and information. Please read through the points and the explanation behind them to see the issues that are commonly brought up in response. They may not always match your suggestion 100% - in fact, you may have explained around one or two of them - but they're there for consideration and refinement of your idea.

Yes, I do look forward to the time, with some of these suggestions, that someone not only addresses all the points, but does so exceptionally well. It'll probably be added to the end of the cut/paste reply, with credit. For now, though, read and consider the points. They really are just there to help you, and move discussion along to help ideas evolve.

If you're going to see this and say an "evil forum vet is just shooting down your idea," or "You think you're the last word because of your post count," you're wrong. Heck, if you say the second, you've just worried more about my post count than I have in the last four plus years. Tongue-in-cheek comments in here are meant as hummor, not put downs.


TL,DR section.
First, my stock answer, one which I stand by and repeat with all due fervor. HELL NO.

Searching effectively

1. Click on "Search" up at the top of the forum.
2. On the left, under "Forum(s) to search," select "Suggestions and ideas."
3. On the right, Keyword Search Terms. This is probably where your problem was if you did search. Try the following, exactly as typed:

+server -pvp -"re: "

This will search for anything with "Server" in the title, including Servers, Combine Servers, Consolidate Servers, and The Server At Mcdonalds Is Rude. it will eliminate "PVP," so you won't see PVP server requests, and the -re: portion of it removes replies, so you'll see the root of every thread that comes up, letting you see just how many threads there are on this. (The last helps for other subjects, as well.)

4. Click the "In subject" radio button. This is a search, not a cute blonde in a bikini. Here, you want to ignore the body.

5. Leave Username Search blank.

6. Date range, Newer Than, change the 1 to a 3, and the time to Months.

7. Result format doesn't matter. Click on "Submit."

As I try this now, (12/3/08,) we have:
Consolidate Server
Server Stats RSS Feed
$server modifier ofr chat
Fix the forum server
Earlyissue server
Merging low population server
Combine slow server
Server status
Global chat on the Character and Server Screens
Rated M server
Add Ponies, Nerf Vills, merge Servers, PistolMelee
Server Visiting
Display Central Time on Server Status Page

Ignoring the smartalec reply, that's three full discussions about this topic.

You should have read one of them if (inevitably) something similar comes up in your search.

Now, on to the topic at hand....

Why server consolidation is not a good idea.

1. Just because YOU like living in New York City doesn't mean I can't like Kansas.

Yay, you love having huge lag spikes as you get near the black market/wentworths and a busy broadcast. Congrats. Enjoy Freedom. Some of us - many of which you will get replies from with this subject - like *low population* servers. If we *wanted* to be on Freedom, we'd *be* on Freedom.

I have characters on Freedom. I rarely play them (and actually moved a character OFF of Freedom to finish leveling it to 50) because *I DON'T LIKE FREEDOM.* I dislike the banality of broadcast, the high percentage of *horrid* teams I've come across there, the lag around any gathering point- and I've got a decent connection and system. For much the same reason, I typically startin Galaxy City instead of Atlas Park - I don't *want* to log in to a costume contest with several 50s spamming powers and nonsense arguments in broadcast.

Some of us *like* nice, quiet servers.

2, Kansas, part 2.

In addition, servers have their own personalities. No, I don't mean that literally, there's no AI to worry about if you start hearing "Daisy, Daisy" over your speakers or headset. Freedom's a crowded mess. Virtue is the RP server. Pinnacle is the "Drunk" server. Others have specific communities, such as those from Australia/NZ, Europe, etc.

3. "I only saw one other person. World of Conancraft has eleventy billion!"

So what?

We don't run around camping spawn points in this game. People are in missions. People are spread across many zones. Search on a map or do a /whoall and you'll miss those in missions, as well as those who are, for whatever reason, on /hide. Your "search" there didn't give you a full picture, not in the least.

I understand the "feel" of things being "not very populated," but take a good look around when you're in game. Typically, you don't really have a lot of visibility. Standing in steel canyon, there could be multiple, full 8 person groups surrounding you, and it's likely you'd never see them. We have buildings, walls, architecture, trees and more limiting our visibility. Yes, it can make you feel more alone... but that's rarely the case. Add to that that the population is spread between many, MANY zones, most quite large, and among two sides... well...

4. "I put up my LFT flag and nothing happened!"

Learn to search. Don't just wait. Form a team yourself.

5. "I AM SPARTACUS!" No, not any more.

Remember logging in and seeing all those slots? Everyone has those - some buy more than the base 12, you get an extra one each year, you could have a total of 36 on any server. Everyone does. Every one has a character with a unique name. Maybe not a *good* name, but a unique one. Every one has a character with a unique name. Maybe not a *good* name, but a unique one.

Now merge servers. Suddenly, CoolBlasterDude from server 1 is getting merged with CoolBlasterDude from Server 2. Who gets to keep their name? Nobody has been able to answer this with any degree of satisfaction. Add a number? But I am NOT CoolBlasterGuy1. And what if the name's too long? Does the older character keep it? What if they're not as active?

People are *VERY* attached to their names. They are, quite obviously, part of their character.

6. "This Is SPARTA!" Sorry, Sparta exists already. You are GenericSG 8734 287 9798.

What else has a name? Supergroups. And I can *guarandamntee* that the same name is in use on multiple servers. Sometimes it's 'branches' of the same SG, sometimes it's coincidence. But with *everything* involved in an SG - from its identity and reputation on the server, to everything stored in the database about what it owns, what its base is like and such, this would be a disaster in the making. And no, auto merging them when the servers merge, even if they have room to, is not an option.

This, of course, assumes that they *CAN* move supergroups as a unit. More than likely, it'd just be a mass character move, with bases, prestige, anything stored in bases and all SG affiliations just gone forever.

7. "I am... where'd Spartacus go?"

Remember all those slots? Well, you start with 1/3 of the available ones. You can buy up to 36 total (24 on top of the ones you get initially.) Now, what do you suppose would happen if you merged two servers, and someone has, say, 20 characters on each? Not unusual. In fact, before those extra slots, I had *filled up* several servers. Do those characters just disappear? Do they move? Free move to another server sounds great, right... well, except you now kick them from their supergroup, remove them from their friends lists and more. This makes for angry and unhappy customers. Or rather, ex customers.

8. I will play where I damn well want to. And you can too.

And that should be blunt enough. If I want a crowded server, I'll go to Freedom. If I want an RP server, I'll go to Virtue. I do NOT want to be shoved onto another server I *don't* like. If I wanted to go there, *I'd be there.*

If the server you're on isn't "busy" enough for you, you have two options that won't bother anyone else.
(A) If it's low enough, reroll. You have a ton of character slots for a reason.
(B) If you don't want to reroll, server transfers are available, and relatively cheap. They also finish fast - you should be up and running and being spammed to join someone's SG on the new server in a few minutes, in most instances. So YOU can go to the server of YOUR choice without screwing ME over.

9. "It'll free up server hardware for Freedom!" No, no it won't.

Freedom, because of the load it tends to have, already has more resources dedicated to it than other servers. And ALL of the servers have been upgraded multiple times. The servers are not allocated exactly the same. The servers that handle less of a load have less dedicated to them. So this argument doesn't fly.

10. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

Last but not least (at least until better points come along to be added,) server consolidation is widely viewed in the industry as an MMO going on life support. No, we don't have WoWs numbers (and you should actually pay attention to when and how they got those.) They're an abberation in the MMO industry. COH has had and does have a very successful, sustainable population even at its lowest points, so there's no economic need to combine anything. The flip side of that, of course, has been suggested above - you crowd people together, break up their SGs and friends lists, cause characters to go missing and poeple definitely *will* quit, both out of annoyance and a sense of "The game is almost dead!"

In conclusion....

As stated before, when it comes to server consolidation... HELL NO.
Anyway, i hope you enjoy the game and find the teams you want. Which can be difficult on a trial account, but i blame the RMT'ers for most of that. Well, actually, all of that. Damn RMT'ers.


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Originally Posted by Schismatrix View Post
Someone posts MERGE DUH SERVERS NAO!!11!!!1!!1! every other week or so because no one on their chosen server will team with them.
And it is not difficult to see why.


 

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Looking for a community based server and people who know what they're doing? Stay. But, if you're looking for copious amounts of players and little to no knowledge on some stuff, seek a different server. (Try Freedumb.) If you're more into RP'ing, Virtue is that way ---->


 

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AHHHH! I went to FREEDOM for a day and......(Horror Story, brace yourselves)..........

I actually managed to get on a sewer team, i didnt know they were uncommon (i avoid dozens a day on Champion server).

There was about 50 people under Atlas Statue and someone (get ready for it....) EXPLODED! BOOM! 48 people said "How did you do that?". So....like the Noob that i am.....answered "Buy the Cyborg Pack!". 48 voices rang out "How do you do that?". OMG!

I had to log, i couldnt stop laughing.

That's your drama for the day.....ENJOY


 

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That's not drama. That's lack o' knowledge. There's a difference.


"Champion (the Community Server... or GTFO) is like a small town where everyone knows each other's names, for better or worse." -kojirodensetsu.
"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." - Maslow's Hammer

 

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I see plenty of other folks running around on Champion, both Red and Blue sides. Granted, they aren't hordes consisting of eleventy-billion, but I do see 'em.