+Regen in toggles?


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If I put the +regen proc from regenerative tissue and the +regen/Recovery from numinas into a toggle will that make the regen rate boosts constant or will it negate them?


 

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Originally Posted by Plusone View Post
If I put the +regen proc from regenerative tissue and the +regen/Recovery from numinas into a toggle will that make the regen rate boosts constant or will it negate them?
They will be constant as long as the toggle is active.

However, while I could be wrong, I'm pretty sure the only heal toggles are found on Willpower and Regeneration, with Rise to the Challenge and Integration.

On these builds you are going to be much better off putting the procs into passive powers like Fast Healing, the pool power health, and on tanks, scrappers, and brutes, the Epic / Patron Physical Perfection power.


 

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On these builds you are going to be much better off putting the procs into passive powers like Fast Healing, the pool power health, and on tanks, scrappers, and brutes, the Epic / Patron Physical Perfection power.
Ahhh,
I didnt think they wuld actually work in auto powers, are there any other of these +regen uniques?


 

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Ahhh,
I didnt think they wuld actually work in auto powers, are there any other of these +regen uniques?
No. The Numina Unique and Regenerative Tissues Unique are the only +regeneration single IO's in the game. However, multiple enhancement sets offer regeneration as a bonus, like the Numina set, or the Luck of the Gambler set for defense, or the Scirocco Dervish Set for PBAOE attacks.

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Now, as to your other implied question, here's a screen shot. It's from a kin, and the mouse is hovering over Transfusion.



Now, in the little pop-up there's a line that says Allowed Enhancement Set Categories. These are the various enhancement sets that you can use on each power.

Now, when you go and drop by WentWorths or the Black Market, you'll get a screen like this.



Here you can see the available recipes are sorted by category. Basically, all you have do to is match up the enhancement sets. If you have an enhancement set that is from the Healing enhancement, you can use it in any power that allows the Enhancement Set Catagory: Healing.


 

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Knowing that those are the only two +regen procs set my mind at ease, lol. I've been agonizing over this wpr build for a while in mids, only have it to 29 in game, but according to mids, if i can get my hands on those 2 uniques, i'll be at 962% regen, 115.2 hp per sec, before i turn on RttC at 50.


 

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I no longer have a Willpower character to verify this with, but common build advice is that putting the +Regen uniques into RttC causes them to only fire when an enemy comes into range of the toggle, rather than when you turn on the toggle. Slot them elsewhere.


 

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Originally Posted by Laevateinn View Post
I no longer have a Willpower character to verify this with, but common build advice is that putting the +Regen uniques into RttC causes them to only fire when an enemy comes into range of the toggle, rather than when you turn on the toggle. Slot them elsewhere.
I can't verify this with the exact same set-up, but I can verify if you slot a Kismet into Invincibility, it'll work only when enemies come into the radius and 2 minutes after they have left it.

(Kismet and Numi/Regen Tissue work exactly the same way, just different bonus. Same with Invincibility and RttC)


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Why would you need the +regen if you haven't been in melee range of a foe for 120 seconds ?

It may not be ideal, but its not a bad place per se and could provide a good set bonus opportunity.



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The main problem is that doing this causes the effects to scale (down) with foe level. That is definitely undesirable. I cannot confirm this behavior with the regen uniques, but I can confirm it for Kismet in Invincibility.


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What is the wording that lets you know a bonus counts as a "set bonus" (for example the Luck of the Gambler +Recharge) and therefore works all the time even if the toggle is turned off, compared to one that works like an "enhancement bonus" (such as you are saying the heal uniques) and only works when the toggle is active?

If I recall, the +Perception works all the time even when slotted into Build Up. How is it worded different from +Regeneration?


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http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Table_of_Special_IOs

is much better than the in game documentation for this purpose.



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What is the wording that lets you know a bonus counts as a "set bonus" (for example the Luck of the Gambler +Recharge) and therefore works all the time even if the toggle is turned off, compared to one that works like an "enhancement bonus" (such as you are saying the heal uniques) and only works when the toggle is active?
Special effects that behave like a set bonus will show up under the set bonus listing in your character info, procs will not. (LotG 7.5, for example, shows up in your set bonus listing, but Numina's unique doesn't.) For a comprehensive list, see http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Table_of_Special_IOs


 

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Also, the ones that are not set bonuses say things like "chance of" or "for 120s".

Anything that's listed as an actual set bonus for number of enhancers slotted always acts, well, like a set bonus.


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Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
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Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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thanks all!


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