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Originally Posted by PettyTheftz
Does the 7.5% global recharge bonus cap at 5, like the other set bonus attributes?
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All enhancement sets cap at 5.
However you can have 5 lotg 7.5s as well as 5 recharge bonuses of 7.5 from other sources.
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nope.|
Originally Posted by Kahlan_
However you can have 5 lotg 7.5s as well as 5 recharge bonuses of 7.5 from other sources.
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Set bonus's are limited per name.
I tried this on a stone tank. Once you hit 5 7.5 boosts, that's it. no more count.
You can still get other recharge boosts, like 5%, or 6.5%, or 10% (purple), but you can only have 5 of any single named IO bonus effect.
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Interesting, my experience in game with this was that it is possible. I will have to check when I get home today. Perhaps something has changed.
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Originally Posted by je_saist
nope.
Set bonus's are limited per name. I tried this on a stone tank. Once you hit 5 7.5 boosts, that's it. no more count. You can still get other recharge boosts, like 5%, or 6.5%, or 10% (purple), but you can only have 5 of any single named IO bonus effect. |
the 7.5% boosts from set bonuses are NOT the same as the LotG 7.5% boosts. They have different names, and thus you can have 10 total 7.5% boosts.
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Yes that's my experience. I just snuck away and checked in game and that is how it is operating still.
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I'm pretty sure this isn't true. So I just picked up 2 sets of Kinetic Crash impacts on Live and will transfer my stone to test and see whether or not this is actually true. |
Originally Posted by Lohenien
the 7.5% boosts from set bonuses are NOT the same as the LotG 7.5% boosts. They have different names, and thus you can have 10 total 7.5% boosts.
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If you are unable to stack 5 LotG 7.5% rchg + 5 set bonus 7.5% rchg, than that is something new. Since IOs have been available, it has been possible to stack these. I have not checked in a long time, but I have in the past tested and put 5 LotG plus 3 set bonus 7.5% and gotten the recharge from all 8. I look forward to seeing your results so we can know if this has been changed.
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It is actually true. It has been tested before, many times. Devs have confirmed for us why it's true. If it has changed, it should be considered a bug until we're told otherwise.|
Originally Posted by je_saist
I'm pretty sure this isn't true. So I just picked up 2 sets of Kinetic Crash impacts on Live and will transfer my stone to test and see whether or not this is actually true.
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What matters is the name of the bonus as it appears in your "Powers" tab in character info. You can only have 5 of any one name as it appears in that list. An LotG: Recharge has its own name, separate from a that given by "actual" set bonuses of the same magnitude.
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| Castle further elaborated on the rule of five in I13 Closed Beta saying that the exclusion of more than five of the same bonuses is based on the name of the bonus and not its value. For example, a character can benefit from up to five global benefits of Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Recharge Speed, which gives a global +7.5% bonus to Recharge Rate, as well as up to five set bonuses of +7.5% Recharge. That's because the first bonus is named "Luck of the Gambler: Recharge Speed" while the second is "Huge Recharge Bonus". One can find the names of the bonuses listed in the Combat Attributes window. |
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Originally Posted by je_saist
nope.
Set bonus's are limited per name. I tried this on a stone tank. Once you hit 5 7.5 boosts, that's it. no more count. You can still get other recharge boosts, like 5%, or 6.5%, or 10% (purple), but you can only have 5 of any single named IO bonus effect. |
LOTG are a global bonus that is treated as a seperate bonus when regarding the rule of 5.
You can indeed have 5x 7.5% bonuses from sets such as basilisks gaze or kinetic crash, and also have 5x LOTG global 7.5% bonuses on the same character.
This is how I achieve 120% + global recharge bonuses on characters while using no purple sets. I have several on live with this configuration, so I promise it works the way im saying.
thanks for the answers,
looks like I can go ahead with my build, Mids was treating all 7.5 recharge as the same pool.
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You are correct they are limited by name. And, since the LotG recharge has a different NAME from the other 7.5% bonuses, you can have five of each.
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Originally Posted by je_saist
nope.
Set bonus's are limited per name. I tried this on a stone tank. Once you hit 5 7.5 boosts, that's it. no more count. You can still get other recharge boosts, like 5%, or 6.5%, or 10% (purple), but you can only have 5 of any single named IO bonus effect. |
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So Mids is incorrect in it's cap warning of 7.5 recharges when factoring in LotGs with set bonuses?
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Originally Posted by PettyTheftz
thanks for the answers,
looks like I can go ahead with my build, Mids was treating all 7.5 recharge as the same pool. |
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If that's what it's doing, then yes, it's incorrect.|
Originally Posted by PumBumbler
So Mids is incorrect in it's cap warning of 7.5 recharges when factoring in LotGs with set bonuses?
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Edit: I threw together an Earth/FF controller to test that on, and it's not doing that for me. I slotted 5 LotGs, two sets of Basilisk's Gaze and a set of Kinetic Crash, and it isn't showing any warnings.
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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
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Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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Awesome, I never looked at that for a long time so it's probably been fixed for quite some time now.
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Originally Posted by UberGuy
If that's what it's doing, then yes, it's incorrect.
Edit: I threw together an Earth/FF controller to test that on, and it's not doing that for me. I slotted 5 LotGs, two sets of Basilisk's Gaze and a set of Kinetic Crash, and it isn't showing any warnings. |
I'll add my anecdotal data that the LoTG doesnt count for the limit of 5 x 5.75
You can 5 x LoTG plus 5 x set bonues of 5.75. Though only tested with the 5 x set bonus plus a couple of LoTG's
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Yes, this has long been put to rest, but somehow continues to rear its ugly head from time to time.
As has been pointed out above, set bonuses "stack" toward the Rule of 5 cap by using their UNIQUE BONUS NAME (as appears in your character's "Info" screen on the "Powers" tab). Since the LotG +7.5% Recharge IO has a completely separate and unique name for its bonus, it is completely separate and unique from other +7.5% bonuses.
As UberGuy pointed out, if someone is not experiencing the above, then it should be considered a bug and perhaps reported as such.
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Does the 7.5% global recharge bonus cap at 5, like the other set bonus attributes?
thanks in advance.