scrapper options
Everything sucks compared to regen, but fire is the 2nd best.
Ok, i want to make another scrapper to play with. i have a fully IO claw/regen scrapper who is pretty damn good so far. but i want to make another one to switch it up so i'm not playing the same guy, as much as i love him.
Anyways, i was thinking of a bs/wp or bs/fire. staying away from regen because i have one already. what would be better of the two, and how would wp match up against regen? I always wanted to know. thanks |
i like scrappers, plus i like the blue side. and i think i'm going to go with fire as my secondary. thanks for the help guys.
If you feel like playing fire armor I'd recommend a fire/ss/earth tank. It won't disappoint (in pve while leveling, or in pvp).
If you feel like playing fire armor I'd recommend a fire/ss/earth tank. It won't disappoint (in pve while leveling, or in pvp).
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I'd go with Frosticus on this. I have both a Fire Tank and Scrapper, and the Tank is far better than the Scrapper. Greater survivabilty and as good or better damage thanks to Rage.
SR is horrible without a big investment too. When elude isn't up, my SR gets hit with literally every single attack. Elude is essentially the entire set, and without a huge investment, it's not going to be up enough.
I'd go with Frosticus on this. I have both a Fire Tank and Scrapper, and the Tank is far better than the Scrapper. Greater survivabilty and as good or better damage thanks to Rage.
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i wouldn't go fire, it's so squishy, WP atleast has some +hp.
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I love my fire/fire/pyre scrap. Sure he dies a lot and sometimes can't hit the broad side of a barn, but when it works I feel like a blaster with healing flames!
Personally, I think */fire needs the conceal pool for kb ios and phase.
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Fire is tons better than WP. All WP has going for it is +HP and RttC, which drops when mezzed. Other than that, its resistances and defenses to anything but smash/lethal aren't all that wonderful, while Fire has solid resistance to everything except cold as well as one of the best self-heals in the game.
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in a melee fight, WP is better. That's excluding RttC, because it can be assumed every good player has mez or mez procs.
Aidself is basically like healing flames.
With 4 numinas/2 miracles (getting to 100.03 heal and 97.64 rech)
HF
Heal = 53%
Rech = 20.2 seconds
Aid self
Heal = 41.6%
Rech - 10.1 seconds
HF can't be interrupted, but i never have a problem getting off aid self unless there is a toggle on me, inwhich case KoB just drops it.
WP has more health, more regen, same S/L resistence (still most common) and more defense.
Their defense is usually only around 25%, but that is still useful against a lot of people.
I always see Fire tanks running away or kiting like crazy waiting for HF, never see a WP tank do that. Actually sometimes they just sit under AP and nobody can kill them unless they get a heavy or a friend.
Fire is squishy, it was my first 50 pvper and *could not* preform as some other brutes i saw. I even looked for a good fire brute to get some help from to find most of them switched to something else, or quit like everyone else.
Even on a tank, contsantly taking damage, a 50% heal every 12 seconds or so is not enough.
I say 12 because i hit there with mine after a lot of recharge and hasten, it's not even that for most.
+HP is king, and fire is way behind WP.
And i didn't even factor in WP's SoW, atleast it has a tier 9.
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I wouldn't complain if they gave FA a 'Power Surge' like T9.
EDIT: Power Surge not Overload
I always see Fire tanks running away or kiting like crazy waiting for HF, never see a WP tank do that. |
Also, lol at you saying aid self is as good as HF when literally like 2 hours ago you made a thread complaining how you couldn't use aid self in a melee duel vs someone because you kept getting interrupted. And that's a melee duel, the biggest joke in the game. Against ranged damage, WP will die in seconds.
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Ok, i want to make another scrapper to play with. i have a fully IO claw/regen scrapper who is pretty damn good so far. but i want to make another one to switch it up so i'm not playing the same guy, as much as i love him.
Anyways, i was thinking of a bs/wp or bs/fire. staying away from regen because i have one already. what would be better of the two, and how would wp match up against regen? I always wanted to know.
thanks