scrapper options


Antigonus

 

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Ok, i want to make another scrapper to play with. i have a fully IO claw/regen scrapper who is pretty damn good so far. but i want to make another one to switch it up so i'm not playing the same guy, as much as i love him.

Anyways, i was thinking of a bs/wp or bs/fire. staying away from regen because i have one already. what would be better of the two, and how would wp match up against regen? I always wanted to know.

thanks


 

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Everything sucks compared to regen, but fire is the 2nd best.


 

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Originally Posted by V_tec View Post
Ok, i want to make another scrapper to play with. i have a fully IO claw/regen scrapper who is pretty damn good so far. but i want to make another one to switch it up so i'm not playing the same guy, as much as i love him.

Anyways, i was thinking of a bs/wp or bs/fire. staying away from regen because i have one already. what would be better of the two, and how would wp match up against regen? I always wanted to know.

thanks
Just out of curiosity, if you already have a Scrapper but you want to mix it up as you say, why play another Scrapper? Why not try one of the other melee classes if melee is your preference? If you like those sets, playing a different AT might be a good way to play the sets you enjoy while getting a very different feel.


 

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i like scrappers, plus i like the blue side. and i think i'm going to go with fire as my secondary. thanks for the help guys.


 

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If you feel like playing fire armor I'd recommend a fire/ss/earth tank. It won't disappoint (in pve while leveling, or in pvp).


 

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Originally Posted by Frosticus View Post
If you feel like playing fire armor I'd recommend a fire/ss/earth tank. It won't disappoint (in pve while leveling, or in pvp).

I'd go with Frosticus on this. I have both a Fire Tank and Scrapper, and the Tank is far better than the Scrapper. Greater survivabilty and as good or better damage thanks to Rage.


 

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Originally Posted by Supermax View Post
Everything sucks compared to regen, but fire is the 2nd best.
i have more issues killing SRs, fire scrappers are so squishy unless you spend a ton on them.


 

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SR is horrible without a big investment too. When elude isn't up, my SR gets hit with literally every single attack. Elude is essentially the entire set, and without a huge investment, it's not going to be up enough.


 

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Originally Posted by Antigonus View Post
I'd go with Frosticus on this. I have both a Fire Tank and Scrapper, and the Tank is far better than the Scrapper. Greater survivabilty and as good or better damage thanks to Rage.
tank has some good burst, KoB and fossilize. But even scrapper has better burst. Scrappers do way more damage.

i wouldn't go fire, it's so squishy, WP atleast has some +hp.


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i wouldn't go fire, it's so squishy, WP atleast has some +hp.
Fire is tons better than WP. All WP has going for it is +HP and RttC, which drops when mezzed. Other than that, its resistances and defenses to anything but smash/lethal aren't all that wonderful, while Fire has solid resistance to everything except cold as well as one of the best self-heals in the game.


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I love my fire/fire/pyre scrap. Sure he dies a lot and sometimes can't hit the broad side of a barn, but when it works I feel like a blaster with healing flames!

Personally, I think */fire needs the conceal pool for kb ios and phase.


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Originally Posted by macskull View Post
Fire is tons better than WP. All WP has going for it is +HP and RttC, which drops when mezzed. Other than that, its resistances and defenses to anything but smash/lethal aren't all that wonderful, while Fire has solid resistance to everything except cold as well as one of the best self-heals in the game.

in a melee fight, WP is better. That's excluding RttC, because it can be assumed every good player has mez or mez procs.

Aidself is basically like healing flames.

With 4 numinas/2 miracles (getting to 100.03 heal and 97.64 rech)

HF

Heal = 53%
Rech = 20.2 seconds

Aid self

Heal = 41.6%
Rech - 10.1 seconds

HF can't be interrupted, but i never have a problem getting off aid self unless there is a toggle on me, inwhich case KoB just drops it.


WP has more health, more regen, same S/L resistence (still most common) and more defense.

Their defense is usually only around 25%, but that is still useful against a lot of people.


I always see Fire tanks running away or kiting like crazy waiting for HF, never see a WP tank do that. Actually sometimes they just sit under AP and nobody can kill them unless they get a heavy or a friend.

Fire is squishy, it was my first 50 pvper and *could not* preform as some other brutes i saw. I even looked for a good fire brute to get some help from to find most of them switched to something else, or quit like everyone else.

Even on a tank, contsantly taking damage, a 50% heal every 12 seconds or so is not enough.

I say 12 because i hit there with mine after a lot of recharge and hasten, it's not even that for most.

+HP is king, and fire is way behind WP.

And i didn't even factor in WP's SoW, atleast it has a tier 9.


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I wouldn't complain if they gave FA a 'Power Surge' like T9.

EDIT: Power Surge not Overload


 

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Originally Posted by Sentry4 View Post

I always see Fire tanks running away or kiting like crazy waiting for HF, never see a WP tank do that.
Yeah, by that time, the WP is already dead.

Also, lol at you saying aid self is as good as HF when literally like 2 hours ago you made a thread complaining how you couldn't use aid self in a melee duel vs someone because you kept getting interrupted. And that's a melee duel, the biggest joke in the game. Against ranged damage, WP will die in seconds.


 

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Originally Posted by Sentry4 View Post
I even looked for a good fire brute to get some help from to find most of them switched to something else, or quit like everyone else.
Incorrect, you came to the boards and trash-talked the good Fire Brutes (see as an example: Con's SS/Fire). Refusing to play your character well and ignoring all the good advice you've been given by those with tons more experience than you isn't the same thing as not being able to find someone to get advice from.


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