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Do the Council ever win one?

Alasdair

By Alasdair,
Posted on: 2009-10-22 22:13 in CoH and CoV General Discussions

 

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Originally Posted by Obscure Blade View Post
There's a mission from a Skyway contact that always makes me think that; where you are sent to go beat up Lost to make joining them frightening to the homeless. Isn't that terrorism?
By actively combating them you are demonstrating that that forces of law and order will not stand for their criminal acts, thus discouraging prospective recruits from joining up. The 5th Column and Council spawns soapboxing on the corners are actively promoting violence and treason and thus are not protected by the right to free speech. Also, all those guys I beat up for loitering had outstanding warrants (for loitering).

What's more interesting than how badly the Column are wtfpwning the Council is the lines about taking captured Council away for experimentation.

 

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Originally Posted by Heraclea View Post
In the street battles between the Council and the 5th Column, do the Council ever win one?
Not while I'm there to lend a hand! I'll help the 5th trounce them, and then when the surprised uber-goon turns to thank me, that's when I break his nose.

Slimey, yet satisfying.

 

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Just out of curiosity, has anybody else noticed some rather odd 'encounters' between Arachnos and Council soldiers in the Nerva Archipelago? Usually involving them pointing guns at each other and muttering something about "trust."

I think they are new (though it may just be down to a lack of attention on my part.) Maybe it's a sign of how desperate the Council are these days.

 

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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
^ This

I like them as the bad guys. In the sense that, without a strong and threatening foe, any story or game will suck.

Besides, it's a bit daft taking all this as anything other than a game. Especially a game which lets you be the bad guy.

I know you guys in the States are still very 'Omg Nazis Killkillkill!' and such. Anything including 'Nazi' might as well paint itself black, red and grow horns.


In real life = I'd never even consider anything to do with them, except maybe arrest
In real life, there are several active white supremacist groups in the United States. I can't say more without violating the forum TOS, though.

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In a Game = Pretendy Fun Time Games. I like making stories, even about villains and anti-heroes and suchnot.

Also, Canon wise, the 5th aren't really Nazis anymore. Their leader is a gas-faced space alien hybrid looking to rule the world. Dictator, maybe, fascist? Only to Kheldians, probably
Dude, they're fascists. Having Requiem as a leader doesn't mean they can't be. Also, I have no doubt that Reichsman will have an incredible impact on their ideology, if it's drifted at all.

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Originally Posted by LordSquigie View Post
By actively combating them you are demonstrating that that forces of law and order will not stand for their criminal acts, thus discouraging prospective recruits from joining up. The 5th Column and Council spawns soapboxing on the corners are actively promoting violence and treason and thus are not protected by the right to free speech. Also, all those guys I beat up for loitering had outstanding warrants (for loitering).

What's more interesting than how badly the Column are wtfpwning the Council is the lines about taking captured Council away for experimentation.
I kinda wish this musing would at least acknowledge that when these groups see you, they attack on sight, with lethal force. I also doubt that most of the Council or 5th Column have permits for chain guns, assault rifles, rocket launchers, grenades, heavily armed robots...

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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
It's probably you trying to get them to recruit more female members that does that, GG.
I'm happy with them being a male-only group

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I also noticed a Family guy in IP fighting a 5th Column guy and calling him a fascist pig.

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Originally Posted by KaliMagdalene View Post
I kinda wish this musing would at least acknowledge that when these groups see you, they attack on sight, with lethal force. I also doubt that most of the Council or 5th Column have permits for chain guns, assault rifles, rocket launchers, grenades, heavily armed robots...
Hey, this is Paragon. Where they sell Enriched Plutonium at Wentworths - cheap. Weapons restrictions clearly aren't a big priority for local law enforcement. They probably just borrow a rocket launcher from the neighbors before heading out for their latest world conquest scheme.

"Could I have some milk? I'm out. Oh, and I need the rocket launcher again."

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Originally Posted by Obscure Blade View Post
Hey, this is Paragon. Where they sell Enriched Plutonium at Wentworths - cheap. Weapons restrictions clearly aren't a big priority for local law enforcement. They probably just borrow a rocket launcher from the neighbors before heading out for their latest world conquest scheme.

"Could I have some milk? I'm out. Oh, and I need the rocket launcher again."
Well, Wentworth's caters to superheroes who are licensed law enforcement.

Also, I treat most of that as abstraction.

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Originally Posted by KaliMagdalene View Post
As much as the 5th is a villain group with more flavor and history than the Council, it kinda creeps me out to see people cheering fascists on.
Yeah, but they're OUR fascists!

 

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Originally Posted by KaliMagdalene View Post
I kinda wish this musing would at least acknowledge that when these groups see you, they attack on sight, with lethal force. I also doubt that most of the Council or 5th Column have permits for chain guns, assault rifles, rocket launchers, grenades, heavily armed robots...
Well, I could be serious about it, but then I would have to be serious. Still, they do open fire on you just for walking by. It's really strange redside. I mean, I hop over to say, "Hey, I know a guy who owns a pig farm," and they're all, "No witnesses!" I was just trying to be helpful!


Hmm, "You got a permit for that thing?" would make a pretty good taunt...

 

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Originally Posted by LordSquigie View Post
Well, I could be serious about it, but then I would have to be serious. Still, they do open fire on you just for walking by. It's really strange redside. I mean, I hop over to say, "Hey, I know a guy who owns a pig farm," and they're all, "No witnesses!" I was just trying to be helpful!


Hmm, "You got a permit for that thing?" would make a pretty good taunt...
It's not so much seriousness as repetition. The same joke's been circulating since 2004, after all...

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