Phasing scrappers

Yea i fought different tanks that i actually couldn't kill.

Now, that was a tie, but since they were jumping out of my caltrops and aidselfing the entire match, i saw it as a win. I had them on the defense the entire time. And i maximize my scrappers damage so if i couldn't, a lot of other couldn't.

The tanks might have pushed me to reconstruction and MoG, but that's it. Not even DP. I get them to go on the defensive side and let my regen heal for me.

If i was a tank and could do nothing but survive every fight, i would delete that tank, or get really good end and proc attacks so i could deal some decent damage.

Even on my main, if someone is chasing me and i'm about to die, i don't care if i *could* kite and survive. The fact is they are a better player and possibly a better toon.

The score may say i won, i lost, or i tied....but really all i care about is if i know the game better then them, that i have more experience. I've actually beat some players i still today consider better then myself, and the reason is they didn't get some lucky pvp recipes to sell to make their toons, or they have too many to comepltly focus on one for dueling.



I do play a regen and come back fast, and my fire brute can HF/aidself to near full health as soon as he comes in, so i wouldn't know any slower.

If my teammate is dieing under the stage i can get there, by or before, the 30 second timer goes off with full hp and end. Sometimes i use inspirations if i have them, since they always pile up anyway. Others i run there without toggles to get my end and turn them all around 27 seconds. Of course my main has SS and CJ/hurdle, and i like to train by jumping around the environment, so i'm kinda used to getting places fast and dodgeing things that may slow me down.




And to the last point, yea if i have their health steady at about half the entire match, they have to kite to live and my HP has been full the entire match, i should go lay in rest for them? Nah nah, it obvious who the better player or better character is in that situation.

Kinda like Mac and his bunny scrapper fighting vinces cold/dark cor lol

First off i'm not making anybody read this, and i wouldn't if i had the power too. hey if my messages make someone upset or frsutrated, please don't read them. I'm not here to insult anybody but merely show my view, because i know i'm not the only one who has it. Perhaps on this forums, as some people never came on or left. *cough* Zen shadow

I'm guessing metaphor, because i've never heard of powers have certain colours being blue or red. It doesn't make you weak, it just means that particular playstyle has some weakness to it. Not like Strength/weakness but has weak in it.

I'm proud to not touch Blue if all it means is i'm a coward.

Rawr! Nobody Stops the Juggernaut!

That's one of my few warzone pvpers. And one of the reasons i took it was so i didn't have the urge to flee combat like a coward. Espically because i'm untouchable after.

I basically unbind my Enter during duels so that never happenes.

Offensive use of phase, i support that.

I didn't know u broke up duels rumble bunny....meh maybe i did but the fact is i basically switch to your side when it's warzone because BU EC followed by KoB and Fossilise is absolutely awesome. So i kinda let it slide i guess.

First off i love the quote, good thread that was.

Yea personally i don't like making people cry, angry, frustrated etc. Idk, maybe it's how i was raised, i don't get a laugh out of others feeling down. I perfer giving the baby in the stroller a lolly pop then taking it myself.

Posts in forums are meant to be read. But essentially what you're doing is calling the vast majority of CoH PvP'ers "weak cowards". Simply because of your own personal agenda. Please realize this.

We're not getting upset, because your claim is just as absurd as mine about blue powers being bad. We're just trying to let you understand that your own personal agenda is your own personal agenda...it in no way affects us. We use powers the way they're intended to be used...the way they were designed to be used by the designers of the game. Not the way that Sentry4 personally feels they should be used.

Also, wtf @ comparing PvP in a videogame to a baby in a stroller. There's no lollipop here, there's no stroller, and there's no baby - there's me and another player and last I checked 0-0 is a better end result than 0-1. As long as that math continues to hold true, I'll be using the powers and inspirations I have available to ensure that's how it stays. If I can't beat him, I'm not just going to lay down and let him have the easy kills - I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure the match ends in a tie because a tie is always better than a loss.

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That's not math it's philosophy because you said "better". Which is what i'm debating.


See, the problem is that next to anything is invincible when it constantly runs. Even with TS, unless you have more then one person you can heal or get away. That's the reason i don't run and kite with my regen.

I actually ran into a kiting regen while on juggernaut, it would ridiculous. They tried taunting me saying i couldn't kill them. When they are noob enough to have to kite on a regen to survive. I got the kill later with help, but really i would respect them a lot more if they were not a coward.

How is ones skill rated? is it kill:death ratio? no or else i could call prowler the one of the best players out there. I hear i was like giggles, but i never saw them, got PL'd by then once, that was awesome...but, skill is basically rated by other players. If someone beats me but did so by some cheap or stupid tactic then really i'm the more respectable player.
Once you guys learn that kill:death ratio isn't everything maybe you wont play in a cowardice style.

Offensively as though it will help you Win the match, like waiting for BU to wear off etc. Instead of just prolonging the loss or tie.

Seriously it's a video game and your throwing terms like "cowardice" and "respect" like they mean anything at all. Do you really think some guy/girl playing the avatar your facing cares if you personally respect them, ya right. Once you learn that its a video game and in said video games no such thing as a cowards exist, just winners and losers. Do you get it yet?

And why is a tactic "cheap" or "stupid" cause you deem it so? LOLZ you make me laugh so hard that anyone could think such things in a video game.

I'm calling whoever is afraid of death and uses phase because of that cowards.

Whether the majority does it or not does not concern me.

And i just realized the title, phasing scrappers? Wait what kind of scrapper needs phase anyway? You should be able to get your defenses up high enough that you don't need it.

Just because it's a game doesn't mean the people playing it arn't real. Respect, honor, cowardice exist with people.

still don't get it do you, there is NO DEATH IN THIS GAME SO ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF. Sorry I don't like doing that but it was neccesary. And what moron in their rite mind wouldn't at least pick up the temp phase from warburg. Its not a matter of need it's a matter of ability to do so. Why not take 1 more option if it is indeed an option.

yes actually it does actually the avatars they are playing are NOT REAL. And respect, honor, cowardice are all over rated in RL.

For ***** sake were you born in the early 1900's, honor seriosly?

+1

"Skill" is evasion, knowing what powers to use when, good inspiration management, but most importantly the ability to perform a role really well in a variety of situations (good Blaster, good Emp, good Tanker, good Stalker, etc.). Ultimately duels are meaningless as long as the rock/paper/scissors mechanic exists and the only measure of performance is the ability to do well in a team situation in a given role. For example, I don't duel often even though I have some characters capable of it, because I'm much more comfortable in a team situation playing a squishy when I know the entire other team will be gunning for me (I usually play an Emp or support-spec'd Therm). In a dueling situation, kill:death ratio is all that matters because there's no other way to win a duel. For example, next time I duel one of your toons (if I ever decide I'm feeling bored and need a laugh) I'll just damage you until you hit a heal, and then say "You had to heal, I win" and then quit the match. However, the system will give you the win since I quit early. Does that mean you won? Heck no - you had to heal, therefore I win!

(See how stupid faulty logic is?)

Regarding "cheap tactics," you'll find that the GMs are in support of us, and not you - in short anything goes in PvP short of utilizing geometry exploits. You put toggle debuffs on me and I run into a group of NPCs, which aggro on you and kill you? Too bad, fair game. I have a team and you're solo, and we kill you? Too bad, fair game. I drone you? Too bad, fair game. Ironically, you're the one talking about "cowardice" and "honor" - aren't you the one who uses a flying AR/EM Blaster who uses Boost Range + TP Foe to teleport people into midair and snipe them, and then TP away if you get grounded? But, for you that's okay, because "he wouldn't be able to kill anything the normal way" (your words, not mine) and because "anything goes" (in my words), yet it's ironic that you're perfectly okay with such tactics yet when someone uses phase, it's the end of the ****** world.

Because something will go wrong and require you to need it (or wish you'd had it). My clicks might be recharging when I take a sudden burst of damage on my Regen, or my health might be dropping and my team's nowhere near me on my SR. I might just be taking too much damage, or get into a situation where I'm at risk of dying. I'll phase because it will stop me from dying, which will buy me time for my teammates to get there or for the situation to change so I have the upper hand. In a duel situation, I've got Phase for the occasions where my heals aren't ready and/or my opponent is outdamaging my regen when IH is running.

This is a videogame. There's no such thing as "honor" or "cowardice" here. "Respect" for other players is covered by the terms of the EULA. There's no clause in the EULA that says "don't phase if you're about to die" or "don't use inspirations." When I'm playing an FPS like Call of Duty, I don't give a rat's *** that there's someone at the other end of the screen. I'm there to win and short of network manipulation everything's fair game. In an RTS like Halo Wars, the same deal goes - I'll rush my opponent at the start before he can build up his defenses, because if he doesn't prepare for all potential outcomes, he deserves to lose. Or I'll turtle and then overwhelm him with heavy units, and again, he deserves to lose for not taking the initiative beforehand. I don't care who's at the other console - I'm just some pixels on a screen trying to fight other pixels on a screen and not die. Same holds true here.

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I'd say your friend cheated.

Not that I'm against using inspirations or accolades in a duel. But if it's agreed upon BEFORE hand not to, then you don't.

You don't break the rule, because your losing.

Maybe he should of put phase into his build.

Yeah...using the power option is just wrong

And except for Hibernate, Phase can be fought against. It's called grabbing Phase Shift yourself, so when they phas,e you phase and keep on attacking.

hey u noub ur noub big fat noub face weak liek jiggly puff no talak k noub? y dont u cahnge ur mentality for ppv and then we can see how big ur cup of water is LOLOLOL get wrek

i am not make build with noub power just 2 fite noubs liek u. not my fault if ur 2 bad at ppvs and need 2 take phace shift to survive

Agree 2 this noub... BOOM got u. u werent expecting that get rake liek leaf and go eat dinosaurs OH WAIT dinosaurs r extinct so u will starve 2 death