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Over in the A&P forum, there is a discussion about Epic AT's Link

In that thread there is talk about keybinds and Macros to swap your power trays when you shape shift. Does anyone have a set of Macros that they would not mind sharing? I'm getting tired of having to click powers when I shape shift, and my Macro creation ability is suspect.

Oh while you are at it, does anyone have a macro that will have your character say something when using the costume change emotes? I tried what BaB posted, but I keep getting errors.



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I have a set of 3 macros that I use on my PB to shape shift and change power trays. I'll share 'em with you when I get home.


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I only use macros for cosmetic purposes in video games.

On my shapeshifter Warshade I just click the power and hit - and = to shift my power bar from nova to human to dwarf.


 

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There's a reason my current Peacebringer is Human only....


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/macro Nova "powexectoggleon Dark Nova$$gototray 4"

/macro Dwarf "powexectoggleon Black Dwarf$$gototray 5"

/macro Human "powexectoggleoff Black Dwarf$$powexectoggleoff Dark Nova$$gototray 1$$powexectoggleon Gravity Shield"

Note 1: Change tray numbers to suit - these are the trays I use for my WS.

Note 2: Do not copy and paste from here. Windows tends to change quotations to smartquotes which are not recognized in game. The quotes in this case are necessary to tell the game to execute more than just the first command.

Note 3: Obviously change Black Dwarf to White Dwarf, and Dark Nova to Bright Nova if you're a Peacebringer.

Note 4: You can also swap the secondary and tertiary trays: gototrayalt <#> and gototrayalt2 <#> should work for those.

Note 5: You can drop the powexectoggleon part for the human macro if you don't use the shields. I can't see a reason not to use them, so switching on my Smash/Lethal shield when out of other forms is helpful.


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Bonus: /macro costume "cce 1 <ccemote>$$s <witty saying here>"


 

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If I remember correctly it's something like this:

/macro Squid "powexecname Dark Nova$$GotoTray 9"

Edit: Scooped while doing actual work.


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My PB and Warshade are essentially Human-Only because of one simple reason:

I feel the Dwarf and Nova forms are merely hamstrung versions of Tankers and Blasters, respectively. If I felt like playing as an NPC, I would roll up a Wolf Spider again and turn off the XP accrual at level 2.

Besides, with the "extra" powers you get as either form, while at the same time you're still getting powers that can only be used in human form, you have to divide your enhancement slots even more sparsely among powers that you may or may not be using. What the Hell is the point to getting any of those human powers when you'll just be switching between Nova and Dwarf and you can't even USE them!? I remember the days when Fitness didn't transfer into the Alternate Forms, and that was what sold it for me: [To Hell] with the Alternate Forms.

I know there are players out there who swear by Tri-Form, or even just one Alternate Form, but it all seems like such a waste to me. I don't bother with the alternate forms. They distract from powers that make my character versatile, powerful and shiny.


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Originally Posted by Dying_Breath View Post
/macro Nova "powexectoggleon Dark Nova$$gototray 4"

/macro Dwarf "powexectoggleon Black Dwarf$$gototray 5"

/macro Human "powexectoggleoff Black Dwarf$$powexectoggleoff Dark Nova$$gototray 1$$powexectoggleon Gravity Shield"
Beat me to it.


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Originally Posted by Mr_Grey View Post
My PB and Warshade are essentially Human-Only because of one simple reason:

I feel the Dwarf and Nova forms are merely hamstrung versions of Tankers and Blasters, respectively. If I felt like playing as an NPC, I would roll up a Wolf Spider again and turn off the XP accrual at level 2.

Besides, with the "extra" powers you get as either form, while at the same time you're still getting powers that can only be used in human form, you have to divide your enhancement slots even more sparsely among powers that you may or may not be using. What the Hell is the point to getting any of those human powers when you'll just be switching between Nova and Dwarf and you can't even USE them!? I remember the days when Fitness didn't transfer into the Alternate Forms, and that was what sold it for me: [To Hell] with the Alternate Forms.
I both agree and disagree, that's why my Peacebringer is Human spec and my Warshade is Shapeshift (though I'm working on a Tri-form, but I need sets for that).

I might go against my normal theology and try those macros out. They really sound good.


 

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Originally Posted by Dying_Breath View Post
Note 1: Change tray numbers to suit - these are the trays I use for my WS.

Note 2: Do not copy and paste from here. Windows tends to change quotations to smartquotes which are not recognized in game. The quotes in this case are necessary to tell the game to execute more than just the first command.

Note 3: Obviously change Black Dwarf to White Dwarf, and Dark Nova to Bright Nova if you're a Peacebringer.

Note 4: You can also swap the secondary and tertiary trays: gototrayalt <#> and gototrayalt2 <#> should work for those.

Note 5: You can drop the powexectoggleon part for the human macro if you don't use the shields. I can't see a reason not to use them, so switching on my Smash/Lethal shield when out of other forms is helpful.


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Bonus: /macro costume "cce 1 <ccemote>$$s <witty saying here>"
Thank you!

All worked perfectly. I owe you one.



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"Silly villain, CoX is for Heroes!" -Saicho

 

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Originally Posted by Demon_Shell View Post
I only use macros for cosmetic purposes in video games.

On my shapeshifter Warshade I just click the power and hit - and = to shift my power bar from nova to human to dwarf.
Same here. Dwarf I go to tray 9 with - and nova go to tray 2 with =. I have shields in 3 and human in 1.



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There isn't a way to have the macro change the second tray is there? As is, it changes the first tray, but I don't change that one on any of my characters.

If I can get this to work the way I want, I would totally use this. It's pretty cool


 

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Originally Posted by Dying_Breath View Post

Note 4: You can also swap the secondary and tertiary trays: gototrayalt <#> and gototrayalt2 <#> should work for those.

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Originally Posted by Demon_Shell View Post
There isn't a way to have the macro change the second tray is there? As is, it changes the first tray, but I don't change that one on any of my characters.

If I can get this to work the way I want, I would totally use this. It's pretty cool

/macro dwarf "powexectoggleon Black Dwarf$$gototrayalt 4"


 

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My bad, thanks.

Blue! Dude! You gotta try this! It's awesome!

The only downside is that you have to have one extra button to go back to human form.


 

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Originally Posted by Mr_Grey View Post
Dwarf and Nova forms are merely hamstrung versions of Tankers and Blasters, respectively.
You are wrong. I am proof.


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Originally Posted by Knowmad View Post
You are wrong. I am proof.
Knowmad and Bullett are both Kheld masters.

I have teamed with both and they can tank stuff that would eat most tanks into the ground. Ok, usually it's me on the ground, but still...


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Originally Posted by Knowmad View Post
You are wrong. I am proof.
But... how much influence and IO sets to achieve your fabled awesomeness, you tentacled badgehunting freak?

I have/had a PB on Victory that I'd delete in an instant if it wasn't that I'm fond of the concept for him. He's just a couple of levels past getting the lobster form right now, and I found it horribly difficult to play him until now. I wanted to go 2-form with him, so skipped the squid.

I think Kheldians, like other archetypes, appeal specifically to a certain type of player. To truly excel with them you really have to like playing them - and in my case this is proving difficult.

How about a "Ask Knowmad" thread where we (OK, "I") could plumb the depths of your experience?


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Originally Posted by Stalemate View Post
how much influence and IO sets to achieve your fabled awesomeness, you tentacled badgehunting freak?
I've spent a lot, but after I13 you no longer need to. Imagine a level 23 Kheld on a large team with standard level 25 SOs running Dwarf form with 3 +res SOs. You have perma ~80% resistance to all damage but psi (and 20% to that). You also have a 40% boost to base damage from the inherent and a PBAOE that fires every few seconds. Add IO sets (especially with recharge bonuses) and it quickly gets insane, even moreso than with most ATs because IOs help greatly with the Kheld slot crunch. Much of Khelds bad rep comes from people who played them before i13, those who solo without IOs and good key binds, or those who spread their slots too thinly across all three forms.

On a team after i13, Khelds are tank mages. I admit I may be a bit biased by having played my Warshade for thousands of hours over 4.5 years.


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Originally Posted by Knowmad View Post
You are wrong. I am proof.
I always found it MUCH easier to play my Warshade without the Lobster or Nova. I tried running both (even a Triform), but lo-and-behold, down I go. Dump the alternate forms and POOF! Whole new game.

Seriously, with a WHOLE lot of work, work that comes at the detriment of other capabilities the Kheldian would otherwise be capable of, the Peacebringer or Warshade can measure up to stuff most Tankers would tremble at. Conversely, you can put the same effort into a Tank or even a Scrapper and wind up with a powerhouse that would make most AVs and GMs tremble, all without sacrificing any capabilities.

In the meantime, I have been able to take my Human Form Kheldians and really make the otherwise ignored powers shine through regular use. Hell, my Warshade even goes into "Tanker Mode" when he kicks on Eclipse. My Peacebringer has Light Form to handle her tanking duties (if they ever occur).

In all, I prefer the true versatility of the Human-Only Kheldians, as opposed to the illusory versatility of the alternate forms.


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Have to say I love my PB and not to fond of the WS, but the WS just needs a respec basically and he'll be fine. I've tanked Imp and his fluffies even with lobster and blasted good with the squid. Human form can be great for all activities, it basically just depends on the mood that I'm in, to which playstyle I want.



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