First thing I am going to tell you is to drop the forms. Forms suck and offer nothing in my opinion. Human-only is the way to go if you want the full nastiness of a Peaecbringer. Sure there are people that have taken the forms and swear by them, but I personally think they suck (insert expletive).
You need to drop Glowing Touch and take Hasten. There is no point in taking Hasten unless you plan on slotting it with three slots. GT is useful is you want to heal teammates, but if there is even one healer then you do not need it because its a waste of endurance for you when you could be attacking whatever is attempting to kill your team mate.
Photon Seekers, Thermal Shield and Quantum Shield need to also come a lot soon. You should take Thermal before Quantum because you will face fire, and cold a lot sooner in the game than energy, or negative. Besides you have an inherent resistance to those types so no need to worry about Quantum until in your 30s. Photon Seekers is a good PBAoE attack because they are utterly useless if summoned as a normal seeking pet. Either way theys hould be taken before level 41. Preferably after you take Dawn Strike you should take Photon Seekers. Also you do not need to slot and accuracy in Dawn Strike. If you are going to use normal IOs then 3 dam and 3 rech is optimal slotting.
Just a couple starting points for you, hope it helps.
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I think this is why I get damn confused with Khelds....there are SO many choices, EVERYONE has a different build for them...=S
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No need to be confused. There is no right or wrong way to play them. Just find what works for you run with it. If you are ready to delete it after 19 levels that means you didn't really want to make it in the first place. You can't really get a good taste of Peacebringers after only 19 levels of gameplay.
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Having come from the other thread, you should know that a lot of people advised him to take the other forms, Novella. You obviously have your preference, but going human only is trickier and may not be the best for someone that is trying out the AT.
Grabbing the forms let's you know what is out there, and you can adjust your build if you find you don't want to use a form. Also, it's usually easier to level up using the forms (or at least Nova), then respeccing into all human when you're in the late 20s or so.
So that is what I would advise you, Techbot. Grab the forms as you go and see what you like using. That way you can know what you like. Just remember to be careful with your slotting, as I said in the other thread.
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I understand a large portion of the boards will tell someone to take the forms, but in my experience with dealing with those new to Kheldians you actually learn a lot more going the human form route before you have experience witht he character.
I have never done forms on a Peacebringer, but I have back in the day on a Warshade when Kheldians were first released. My first Warshade was Nova/Human and I didn't find it any easier leveling with forms as opposed to being human. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
I think going the human form route on a Peacebringer is a lot easier than human only on a Warshade. People that tend to take forms from the start have a very limited view on the AT because they spend a large amount of time in the forms and do not get to see the marvel that the other powers yield.
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I agree with Novella. In my experience, PBs are most effective when used as Human-Form only. They are like uber-blasters, with slightly less overall damage, but with many many more options. Warshades handle the tri-form thing a lot better. I had my PB go the tri-form route and was really hating it, and so I switched to just human and dwarf and that was a lot better, and then I dropped dwarf and now he really hums.
Photon Seekers rock.
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Forms can be a stage, as well. (Don't forget, we DO have dual builds now.)
Grab Nova, work with it for a while, paying attention to what comes up in humanform. Mid-20s to 30, switch over, work the slots from Nova into the Human build, and keep going. And if you're not comfortable with all human yet - you can just wander over to a trainer and switch back.
I definitely say try out the forms. While you're at it, though, remember you don't have to take *both* forms, either - but I do encourage you to give them a good, solid try out. They're part of what defines a Kheld as an AT (or two,) after all.
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Arkeela: Level 50 Natural Peacebringer
Primary Power Set: Luminous Blast
Secondary Power Set: Luminous Aura
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Gleaming Bolt
- (A) Accuracy IO
- (A) Resist Damage IO
- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (3) Accuracy IO
- (3) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Resist Damage IO
- (5) Resist Damage IO
- (5) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Healing IO
- (9) Healing IO
- (9) Recharge Reduction IO
- (34) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (11) Accuracy IO
- (11) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Run Speed IO
- (A) Healing IO
- (15) Healing IO
- (15) Healing IO
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (17) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (19) Damage Increase IO
- (19) Accuracy IO
- (48) Accuracy IO
- (50) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Resist Damage IO
- (21) Resist Damage IO
- (21) Resist Damage IO
- (37) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Endurance Modification IO
- (23) Endurance Modification IO
- (23) Endurance Modification IO
- (A) Resist Damage IO
- (25) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (27) Damage Increase IO
- (27) Accuracy IO
- (46) Accuracy IO
- (48) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Resist Damage IO
- (29) Resist Damage IO
- (43) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Healing IO
- (31) Healing IO
- (50) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (33) Damage Increase IO
- (33) Damage Increase IO
- (33) Accuracy IO
- (34) Recharge Reduction IO
- (34) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (36) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (39) Recharge Reduction IO
- (39) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Disorient Duration IO
- (42) Disorient Duration IO
- (42) Accuracy IO
- (42) Accuracy IO
- (43) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Healing IO
- (45) Healing IO
- (45) Endurance Reduction IO
- (45) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (48) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (50) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Accuracy IO
- (A) Run Speed IO
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 1: Energy Flight
- (A) Flight Speed IO
- (A) Flight Speed IO
Level 6: Bright Nova Bolt
- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (13) Damage Increase IO
- (43) Accuracy IO
- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (13) Damage Increase IO
- (40) Accuracy IO
- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (7) Damage Increase IO
- (17) Damage Increase IO
- (40) Accuracy IO
- (40) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (7) Damage Increase IO
- (31) Damage Increase IO
- (39) Accuracy IO
- (46) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (46) Accuracy IO
- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (29) Damage Increase IO
- (36) Accuracy IO
- (37) Accuracy IO
- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (25) Damage Increase IO
- (31) Accuracy IO
- (36) Accuracy IO
- (37) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Taunt Duration IO
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
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Welcome to the world of the oh so shiny Kheldians. And as you've seen already there are a ton of options to chose from and at first it can seem daunting. Those choices though are the real strength in being a Kheldian. No other AT in the game can be as much a "jack of all trades, master of none" that the Kheldians can and they give teams flexibility.
Personally I went triform on my PB. As others have said you should try out all the forms and figure out what your personal style is and then respec from there as needed. With the dual builds too you have more options depending on if you want to PvP, have human only, human/nova, human/dwarf, triform, etc. Experiment with a build with all forms and figure out what you really want and go from there.
For me my build approach went something like this, 1 - mid 20's Nova form, slot it, love it, forget the rest. Mid 20's - mid 30's Dwarf form, slot it, love it, forget the rest. Mid 30's - 50 Human form, slot it, love it, forget the rest. When I say forget the rest I'm not saying don't use your other forms, only don't worry about slotting them and focus on the form of choice.
I find the first 20ish levels you don't need a lot of def/resist and can get away on pure damage, hence nova and if you focus on it you can get optimal slotting by the mid 20's. By the mid 20's you start to feel squishy and need that mitigation, hence dwarf. Finally by the mid 30's your nova and dwarf are slotted, you know how to use them, and it's time to really up your power for the end run to 50. For me my human form only took the melee powers, making it a pseudo scrapper.
Your build looks pretty good, although I would slot dwarf with your resists and leave it at that. You don't need the end mods that much as dwarf is a slow attacker. I also wouldn't worry too much about endurance reducers in your human forms if you are a true triform. With Stamina, and Conserve Energy you'll be okay, and if you run low get to range and shift to nova for a good recovery boost. You may have to slow your attack chain a little, but you can actually regain endurance like that and/or pop a blue and be right back in it. That right there will help save some slots to move into hasten, some recharge into dwarf, boost your self heals a little, etc.
All in all though it's a decent build. Welcome to Kheldians, if you stick around I'm sure you'll find it worth your wild, no matter what your playstyle is. Just remember, like a good wine, Kheldians get better with age. 19 just isn't enough time to really get a good grip on what you can do.
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Few thoughts from a quick scan -
Drop the end reduction IOs from the forms. Really not needed. Drop one into WDStrike (another damage, perhaps,) perhaps a damge into gleaming bolt if you plan on using it at all. Why three IOs in Health? If you feel you need IOs elsewhere, take them from there, barring a nice global drop.
May want to move Hasten up - say, to where Thermal shield is. (The most skippable of the shields, IMHO.) Hasten's buff, after all, does carry over even if you can't use it in forms directly.
Make use of your alternate build so that you can do both Human and Triform as you level. You will find the different builds will work better in different situations.
When leveling my PB I found the powers I liked initially weren't the ones I liked when I got to 50. There are many powers you can choose so I had many respec's until I finally found the right build for my play style. Some powers won't actually start to be worthwhile until they are slotted so you might slot something and think "this is great" on the other hand you may come the conclusion that the power is a bit cack.
All people can do when looking at your build is point out the obvious flaws and maybe help a little with the slotting, other than that it is all down to how you want to play your PB.
Make sure you set up some binds, especially so that TAB will focus on quants and voids. If you are using multiple forms then binds are useful for changing trays when changing forms and also if you click human you drop the form and start up your shields automatically.
Only thing I can say about the most recent build you posted, Techbot Alpha, is why no Photon Seekers? They're such a joyful mininuke which stacks so nicely with a timely execution of Solar Flare (or Pulsar)... 
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
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I'd rather save slotting to put into the forms, Xen. With that last build, I had enough attacks and enough slotting in each form to feel comfortable, without compromising on something like Photon Seekers.
Plus, I just hate the recharge on them 
And yeah, I'll probably end up dual-building.
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Well, to each their own, but Ascendantia's build is quite form-heavy and Photon Seekers are very good on it as well. Naturally I gave up on some Human-form abilities.
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
With that last build, I had enough attacks and enough slotting in each form to feel comfortable, without compromising on something like Photon Seekers.
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
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Can't advise on the build, as I went human-only, but I wasn't sure I was keeping mine at 19 either. Turned out to be worth it in the end though.
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What kind of character are you trying to make because from the look of your build I see many holes, but then again I also don't know your play style or what you are trying to achieve.
I can see that you are going to be form heavy, but outside of forms you look to be pretty fragile in human form.
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What kind of character are you trying to make because from the look of your build I see many holes, but then again I also don't know your play style or what you are trying to achieve.
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I can see that you are going to be form heavy, but outside of forms you look to be pretty fragile in human form.
Oh, and I'm not "going to be", the build in my post is an actual Lv50 build that I'm currently playing with.
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
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No. That was in response to the last build that TechBot posted.
I was just trying to get a feel for what the OP is trying to achieve with his Peacebringer.
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No. That was in response to the last build that TechBot posted.
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
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Trying to hang onto my lvl 19 PB, but she just keeps seeming more and more likely to be deleted.
But, after talking to some peeps in another thread, I whipped up a new build for her.
So, as a wise man once said, "If you want build advice, go to the advisors." Or something...
So, a person who is still a complete Kheldn00b begs for aid, oh shiny type people.
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Arkeela: Level 50 Natural Peacebringer
Primary Power Set: Luminous Blast
Secondary Power Set: Luminous Aura
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Glinting Eye
- (A) Accuracy IO
Level 1: Incandescence- (A) Resist Damage IO
Level 2: Shining Shield- (A) Resist Damage IO
- (3) Resist Damage IO
- (3) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 4: Gleaming Blast- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (5) Damage Increase IO
- (5) Accuracy IO
Level 6: Bright Nova- (A) To Hit Buff IO
Level 8: Essence Boost- (A) Healing IO
- (9) Recharge Reduction IO
- (9) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 10: Radiant Strike- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (11) Damage Increase IO
- (37) Damage Increase IO
- (48) Accuracy IO
Level 12: Build Up- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (13) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 14: Swift- (A) Run Speed IO
Level 16: Health- (A) Healing IO
- (17) Healing IO
- (17) Healing IO
Level 18: Incandescent Strike- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (19) Damage Increase IO
- (19) Damage Increase IO
- (39) Accuracy IO
- (40) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 20: White Dwarf- (A) Resist Damage IO
- (21) Resist Damage IO
- (21) Resist Damage IO
- (46) Endurance Modification IO
- (46) Endurance Modification IO
- (46) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 22: Stamina- (A) Endurance Modification IO
- (23) Endurance Modification IO
- (23) Endurance Modification IO
Level 24: Reform Essence- (A) Healing IO
- (25) Healing IO
- (37) Healing IO
Level 26: Solar Flare- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (27) Damage Increase IO
- (27) Damage Increase IO
- (48) Accuracy IO
- (50) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 28: Conserve Energy- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (29) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 30: Glowing Touch- (A) Healing IO
- (31) Healing IO
- (31) Healing IO
Level 32: Dawn Strike- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (33) Damage Increase IO
- (33) Damage Increase IO
- (33) Accuracy IO
- (34) Recharge Reduction IO
- (34) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 35: Restore Essence- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 38: Light Form- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (39) Recharge Reduction IO
- (39) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 41: Photon Seekers- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (42) Damage Increase IO
- (42) Damage Increase IO
- (42) Accuracy IO
- (43) Recharge Reduction IO
- (43) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 44: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (45) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 47: Quantum Shield- (A) Resist Damage IO
- (48) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 49: Thermal Shield- (A) Resist Damage IO
- (50) Endurance Reduction IO
------------Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Accuracy IO
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Rest- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 1: Cosmic BalanceLevel 1: Energy Flight
- (A) Flight Speed IO
Level 10: Combat Flight- (A) Flight Speed IO
------------Level 6: Bright Nova Bolt
- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (13) Damage Increase IO
- (37) Damage Increase IO
Level 6: Bright Nova Blast- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (11) Damage Increase IO
- (36) Damage Increase IO
- (36) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 6: Bright Nova Scatter- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (7) Damage Increase IO
- (15) Damage Increase IO
- (31) Accuracy IO
- (36) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 6: Bright Nova Detonation- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (7) Damage Increase IO
- (15) Damage Increase IO
- (34) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 20: White Dwarf Strike- (A) Accuracy IO
Level 20: White Dwarf Smite- (A) Accuracy IO
- (25) Damage Increase IO
- (40) Damage Increase IO
- (45) Damage Increase IO
Level 20: White Dwarf Flare- (A) Accuracy IO
- (29) Damage Increase IO
- (40) Damage Increase IO
- (43) Damage Increase IO
- (45) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 20: White Dwarf Sublimation- (A) Healing IO
- (50) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 20: White Dwarf Antagonize- (A) Taunt Duration IO
Level 20: White Dwarf Step