Recluse Debuffing STF'rs?

Odds are, this isn't something where he can just pop in and toss off a couple of sentences. It looks complex enough that he'll have to dig around to find the answers. You know, like when they were looking at Taunt effects and discovered that it worked differently from the way everyone thought it did.

The question still remains...

Why did CoH Developers make KB Resistance, and KB Protection. They encompass the same situation. Why go to the effort?

As for the end statement, I agree, with the right team if things go south it can be handled. I would rather just see tanks be tanks, and not this CRAP. 95% isn't good enough. There isn't enough here to negate the simple fact that a tank is a tank, why not allow it to be a tank. Over HALF of the tanks Have Problems with STF's.


Ice - Problems with ToHitt buffs from the towers combined with the fact Recluse does -Def = Tears Ice Tankers to shreads (The only fix for this is to bring a few thermals or sonic defenders/controllers to pump up those resistances.)

Fire & Dark - problems with repeatedly being treated as the red headed stepchildren of tankers due to low HP and the inability to keep on thier feet in dire times of need. (Such as the end of an STF.)

As for the fact that status effects are not stable, and doing so in our favor, no... i would rather that stay in our favor... who wouldn't? But i love having things fair, and I don't think asking that CoH put in a KB Resistance Proc or set or Add KB Resistance to the game would hurt. PvP'rs may complain, but thats simple... turn off the bonus in PvP zones.

To also solve this delimma, change the effects of Recluse himself to allow ppl that have invested the time and effort into thier Fire, Dark and Now Electric tankers to be able to run STF's. Have his Attacks only effect KB Protection, and lower the values of his attacks so they have a "cap" and we can plan for the worst.

The only other thing that is frustrating is that the "Repel" theory can't be tested by players. Vengeance and ID both have KB Protection Added into them, therefore ONLY dev's can test that theory. I still think is has merit, but I am leaning heavily to beleiving that the KB Resistance is now the problem as stated previously. The sad fact is, only Castle can tell us that now.

Castle oh Castle where are you?

As stated, Statesman and Gecko are gone. The game has underwent massive changes, and its still fun. Some good changes, some bad, but it's moving in the right direction. I would like to see it continue to. And this is "MY" issue. I am sure you have a "ME" issue yourself with the game. Who doesn't?

As for my "Definition" of a tank, being thrown around like a ragdall isn't one of them. I spend the time to ensure I have more then enough KB "Protection" because it's my job as a tanker. I also do it because I understand the limitations of my toon and obviously you do as well. But as good experienced gamers we have the obligation to say "something isn't right here" and dammit, I am saying it.

The Ice tanker tohitt buff from the tower/ Recluse tears you a new *** is another issue entirely, but if those pictures are any indication, they need to be checked by developers to ensure that Recluse isn't debuffing more then just defense, or status effect protections. It's thier obligation to make sure we get a solid game that we can depend on. That's what we pay for every month.

As for the KB Statement, we can beat that horse dead a thousand times, you are aware of my stance and I am aware of yours. Netiher is nessecarily right, neither is nessecarily wrong. We just agree to disagree. I still stand by my belief that tankers need to be tankers, and not this psuedo scrapper crap they made Dark, Fire and Electric now.

As for the statement of me "Making this a bigger issue then it is" that's my right. As i stated before, you and everyone else has thier own issue with this game. This is mine for the moment. Respect that, and the same can come your way someday.

The Repel Theory DOES need to be tested. If not we will never know. Castle oh Casle where art thou!!!

There is one of his attacks that causes defense debuff though I never noticed the amounts, and the -kb is possibly an effect related to one of his attacks that has kb and lingers for about 10 seconds. Honestly, it could simply be a failsafe put in when fighting him so that the kb is ensured to stack, but I've never had either of these be an issue.

Snowflake Kitten - Ice/SS Tanker - Master of the Statesman's Taskforce achieved last year sometime, and completed at least 6 or 7 more times afterwards.

Oh, and fwiw, the blue tower has the tohit buff.

I had a reply here, but I deleted it cause I have no idea what EverStryke is complaining about.

Just to clear something up here. The concern of Stryker,myself and quite a few others that like playing this game in all its aspect, are not saying that anyone persons opinion is better than anyone elses. A questions was simply asked to the devs and that was why cant all the tanks in this game stand toe to toe with all Av's in this game without the need of outside buffs. I'm not saying survive without assistance just stand there as in not be knock around like a rag doll. As a tank you are to hold aggro from off your teammates and that is very hard to due when you 15 feet away on your backside. It seems to me that everyone that has posted here has a great knowledge of this game and all have valid points. I would like to thanks all that have put thier opinions out there because the more we talk about potential problems the better this game will get. If previous problems and concerns were never brought to light then we would still be playing issue 1. I dount understand why just asking a simple question causes some people to start pointing fingers.
The devs will decide if this is a valid problem are not and no matter how the outcome I would hope that we as a gaming community will continue to question and argue or individual views. After five years of playing this game it seems to me anytime someone speeks thier mind certain people have to shoot them down simply to make themselves seem the bigshot. I am sure a plenty of interesting things will be said about my opinion and that is your right but please understand im not atttacking anyone, im just tired of all the community bashing of each other. We dont control the game, the devs do and if we dont ask questions then we will never know the answers to our questions.