They're terrible.
I don't recommend them at all.
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I haven't heard that the damage itself was bad. From mids', it looks like it'd do a hefty amount of damage (off the top of my head, at lvl 50 with max slotting for damage Zapp is 336 dmg, x80% from build up is 604 dmg, x2 from hide crit = 1208 dmg).
Isn't AS like 304 dmg x BU x 2.25? So like 1231 dmg? I'm looking at PvE numbers, by the way.
The only thing that I've heard complained about (besides the fact they used to use Stalker ranged mods which made the damage like 50% lower) is the long animation (like 7.5-8 sec vs normal snipes which are half that...but then a blaster with Aim+BU will only be doing half that damage).
I plan to get the snipe on my Elec/Regen for the rech bonuses from the snipe sets and because I think it'd be cool to be able to pull of a ranged AS...even if it takes half a year to shoot off.
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
I haven't heard that the damage itself was bad. From mids', it looks like it'd do a hefty amount of damage (off the top of my head, at lvl 50 with max slotting for damage Zapp is 336 dmg, x80% from build up is 604 dmg, x2 from hide crit = 1208 dmg).
Isn't AS like 304 dmg x BU x 2.25? So like 1231 dmg? I'm looking at PvE numbers, by the way. The only thing that I've heard complained about (besides the fact they used to use Stalker ranged mods which made the damage like 50% lower) is the long animation (like 7.5-8 sec vs normal snipes which are half that...but then a blaster with Aim+BU will only be doing half that damage). I plan to get the snipe on my Elec/Regen for the rech bonuses from the snipe sets and because I think it'd be cool to be able to pull of a ranged AS...even if it takes half a year to shoot off. |
I too am also taking it for the 7.5 recharge from the Sting of the Manticore set.
So the major beef with it is just the long recharge time? That's not too bad at all. In my build without focus chi, the snipe will do a base of 541 negative energy damage. Seems worth it to me!
Just wanted to see what other stalkers opinions of the snipes were. Thanks for your feedback!
Stalker snipes are great! ...
... for getting Melee/AoE defense from set bonuses.
Unenhanced, AS does about 389 when hidden with a 3 second animation
Moonbeam does 256 with a 8 second animation.
One will allow you to use several other attacks during a Build Up period, the other will not.
Better off getting the single target blast.
"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict
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Yeah, I agree. I happen to have had room for one more power after all the necessities and the single target blast. The animation/cast time for the snipes are ridiculously long. I'll likely use it as a set mule.
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Originally Posted by Reiraku
Unenhanced, AS does about 389 when hidden with a 3 second animation
Moonbeam does 256 with a 8 second animation. One will allow you to use several other attacks during a Build Up period, the other will not. Better off getting the single target blast. |
The snipes don't crit!? Why the hell not!!?
They need to fix that, pronto.
I'm pretty sure that they still do, or at least Mace Beam (the snipe) does.
Yeah snipes crit. Also i use my moonbeam(other than 7.5% recharge among things) to make some pretty clean pulls.
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Originally Posted by TRTerror
make some pretty clean pulls.
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How good are the stalker snipes?
I don't think i've ever seen a stalker use one in pvp or pve, and that usually means they are bad. But in mids their damage seems pretty high.
Thanks in advance for any information provided on this topic.