Vengence Question


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I see a few players every now and then that venge out their char crazily. I have vegence on my dom, but I rarely use it since I dont get the opportunity a lot. How does it even work and how can people stack it?


 

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1. You need a dead teammate to cast it on.
2. There's a very tiny window during which it can stack - it's not supposed to, but it can.


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Has anyone done a 7 stack veng cast to see how badly DR hits it? Considering it capped a ton of stuff before and caused 208-1 blow outs, It would be intesting to see how much DR rapes it.


 

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Originally Posted by EmpYou View Post
Has anyone done a 7 stack veng cast to see how badly DR hits it? Considering it capped a ton of stuff before and caused 208-1 blow outs, It would be intesting to see how much DR rapes it.

I haven't tested it but I know the tohit cap will can be hit pretty easy without it. As can squishy defense is much the same. The +dam should be okay but still whacked pretty hard. I can't imagine much more than brutes and veats get alot out of more than 1.


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Originally Posted by trainway1 View Post
I see a few players every now and then that venge out their char crazily. I have vegence on my dom, but I rarely use it since I dont get the opportunity a lot. How does it even work and how can people stack it?
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as far as how...those with venge standing next to each other can target a dead teammate (out of range), que Veng, and have someone tp the fallen to your group..

of course all the que'd Vengeance's will trigger at the same time


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Originally Posted by Hindenburg View Post
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as far as how...those with venge standing next to each other can target a dead teammate (out of range), que Veng, and have someone tp the fallen to your group..

of course all the que'd Vengeance's will trigger at the same time
In the old days, people would get nuked hardcore if they tried that little tactic.


 

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In the old days, people would get nuked hardcore if they tried that little tactic.
This ain't the old days.

And this tactic (TP bug) is still used very often during the last mission of LRSF. Shivs-Pets-Nuke-Que Veng-TP dead ally-Stack Veng. Not sure if the Devs consider it an exploit but it has never been fixed.


 

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Originally Posted by Tokyo View Post
This ain't the old days.

And this tactic (TP bug) is still used very often during the last mission of LRSF. Shivs-Pets-Nuke-Que Veng-TP dead ally-Stack Veng. Not sure if the Devs consider it an exploit but it has never been fixed.
It's even still done in PvP...there are people that use 4 accounts, triple Vengeance (and other misc buffs) their primary toon every few minutes for zone play. Gotta love it...


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You're right - this ain't the old days.

And its stupid to do in the new days because of DR - thus it is a stupid PvP tactic, old or new days


It is epic to see done still in PvE.


 

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Originally Posted by EmpYou View Post
You're right - this ain't the old days.

And its stupid to do in the new days because of DR - thus it is a stupid PvP tactic, old or new days


It is epic to see done still in PvE.
I think its stupid as well, but for a different reason. To use 4 accounts to help you PvP or help you "enjoy" PvP is pretty sad in my opinion. But, one toon with triple Vengeance and Kinetic, Cold and Heat buffs is enough to rile up most everyone in zone (cept for the people that are on the side of the exploiter it seems)...DR regardless. This tactic happens pretty regularly and I usually just ignore the offender if I can.


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Originally Posted by CrazyJerseyan View Post
I think its stupid as well, but for a different reason. To use 4 accounts to help you PvP or help you "enjoy" PvP is pretty sad in my opinion. But, one toon with triple Vengeance and Kinetic, Cold and Heat buffs is enough to rile up most everyone in zone (cept for the people that are on the side of the exploiter it seems)...DR regardless. This tactic happens pretty regularly and I usually just ignore the offender if I can.
I hit aim>boostrange and use a fully range slotted tp foe and drone them from across the zone

If you see someone "ruining" fun it is never really that difficult to "ruin" theirs.

also people doing such things aren't "exploiting" well other than stacking veng which has been cited as not WAI by the devs.


 

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I hit aim>boostrange and use a fully range slotted tp foe and drone them from across the zone

If you see someone "ruining" fun it is never really that difficult to "ruin" theirs.

also people doing such things aren't "exploiting" well other than stacking veng which has been cited as not WAI by the devs.
Thats definitely a technique, I'll just go run a TF since thats all I'm usually waiting for when burning time in zone anyways. Not sure what the devs position on it is, but when I searched online for CoH exploits/cheats, the one example that popped up plain as day was stacking vengeance.

Like I've said b4, if the only way you can PvP is to use stacked vengeance and buffs to be effective...well, I don't know what to say.


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Even amongst the hardcore, stacking vengence wasn't done. Its the reason vengence was/is banned for most arena matches.

It is an exploit and its not that difficult to do if youre good and practiced. Why people would do it in zone PvP is beyond me. PvP now is like shooting fish in a barrel, Im not sure how you can make it any easier.


 

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Originally Posted by EmpYou View Post
Even amongst the hardcore, stacking vengence wasn't done. Its the reason vengence was/is banned for most arena matches.

It is an exploit and its not that difficult to do if youre good and practiced. Why people would do it in zone PvP is beyond me. PvP now is like shooting fish in a barrel, Im not sure how you can make it any easier.
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