I'm guessing you're pulling your info from redtomax. He appears to have some of these miscoded. Only Malaise, Perplex and Brilliant Leadership buff confuse duration (not sure why a pet set is included - likely a bug). The others buff confuse resistance. If I'm adding right, you total out at 5% total bonus.
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Catego...nfuse_Duration
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Catego...use_Resistance
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I wondered about that as confuse resist isn't listed there, but there were several other resists that were right.|
Originally Posted by _Uun_
I'm guessing you're pulling your info from redtomax. He appears to have some of these miscoded. Only Malaise, Perplex and Brilliant Leadership buff confuse duration (not sure why a pet set is included - likely a bug). The others buff confuse resistance. If I'm adding right, you total out at 5% total bonus.
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Catego...nfuse_Duration http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Catego...use_Resistance |
Hmph. Well. That seems pointless. Thanks for the pointer tho'.
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I think you may be the first person in the history of the game to shoot for stacking confuse bonuses. I believe it's just regular additive; i.e., you've added a DO's-worth of bonus to 2.25 seconds of confuse.
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Originally Posted by Enantiodromos
That would leave me with.... 18.75% total bonus on confuse duration?
Is the secret that this is a separate +% to the base, rather than additive with ordinary enhancements? I don't get it. Not that I don't get that global recharge, damage, or accuracy aren't a lot more important than confusion duration, but. Is this the kind of bonus people are shooting for, building in set bonuses? Am I thinking about this all wrong? (Aside from going rather out of my way to get as much confuse duration bonus as I reasonably can?) |
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Well, I have my reasons (it's base 3.725s, not 2.25s, but duration enhancers in AA effectively increase the % chance, which though it starts @30%, readily goes up to ~70% with +95% dur enhance) . |
Originally Posted by Reptlbrain
I think you may be the first person in the history of the game to shoot for stacking confuse bonuses. I believe it's just regular additive; i.e., you've added a DO's-worth of bonus to 2.25 seconds of confuse.
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But it looks like it's not really doable. Or well, what amouts to +2% chance is not worth my while.
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Well, when I16 comes out you can grab World of Confusion and throw the confuse sets in there.
Of course, that still won't help much.
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Hmm....I should really bring out my Ice/Kinetic out for a spin again(after I've transferred to a different server). AA was a terrific power, and I was always tinkering with the best way to slot it(especially increasing the confuse duration as it tended to draw lots of agro). It's too bad I took my year long break when she was one of my most active characters...and too bad she's on a server I no longer play on.
If you have any other suggestions on slotting AA, I'm more than willing to listen.
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Well-- my routine slotting it is all the confuse/end I can get at Lev+3. They're mostly cheap, all you need, and better per slot than anything else available. I mean, as this exercise suggests, not much point in set confuse duration, and... well I suppose you could shoot for the recharge and even the def in Malaise, but that'd be an awful lot of wasted acc.|
Originally Posted by Ignatz
Hmm....I should really bring out my Ice/Kinetic out for a spin again(after I've transferred to a different server). AA was a terrific power, and I was always tinkering with the best way to slot it(especially increasing the confuse duration as it tended to draw lots of agro). It's too bad I took my year long break when she was one of my most active characters...and too bad she's on a server I no longer play on.
If you have any other suggestions on slotting AA, I'm more than willing to listen. |
At 20, six slots will get you to ~89% end and confuse, and by 30, 4x will get you to ~87% end and confuse, so eventually those two other slots for AA can be you know, Damage procs, or whatever. At 50, without going into Coercive Persuasion, you can get ~75% end and confuse with just three slots, and maybe add a third slot of something-else, if you really wanted (e.g., two damage procs and contagious confusion?)... except, knowing what I know about AA confuse % chance, I'd really rather have more confuse dur than that.
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Thanks Enantiodromos. Sorry my reply is late, but your advice is sound. She's currently level 26, and I just need to figure out who to delete from the three servers I mainly play on now. Kind of excited to get her into the rotation again.
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Originally Posted by Enantiodromos
Well-- my routine slotting it is all the confuse/end I can get at Lev+3. They're mostly cheap, all you need, and better per slot than anything else available. I mean, as this exercise suggests, not much point in set confuse duration, and... well I suppose you could shoot for the recharge and even the def in Malaise, but that'd be an awful lot of wasted acc.
At 20, six slots will get you to ~89% end and confuse, and by 30, 4x will get you to ~87% end and confuse, so eventually those two other slots for AA can be you know, Damage procs, or whatever. At 50, without going into Coercive Persuasion, you can get ~75% end and confuse with just three slots, and maybe add a third slot of something-else, if you really wanted (e.g., two damage procs and contagious confusion?)... except, knowing what I know about AA confuse % chance, I'd really rather have more confuse dur than that. |
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For my Ice/Storm, I used all the EndRdx/Confuse I could fit in, and only added Damage procs once I had Endrdx and Confuse capped. I was able to have both the Malaise and Cacaphony damage procs in there. At 50, I have EndRdx/Confuse, Confuse and the Contagious Confusion proc from Coersive Persuasion (purple set), EndRdx/Conf and Chance for Psi Damage from Malaise and a common EndRdx. Capped EndRdx and Confuse, with the two procs. Works great, even if the damage doesn't happen all that often. The added Recovery from the two sets helps.
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Originally Posted by Enantiodromos
Well-- my routine slotting it is all the confuse/end I can get at Lev+3. They're mostly cheap, all you need, and better per slot than anything else available. I mean, as this exercise suggests, not much point in set confuse duration, and... well I suppose you could shoot for the recharge and even the def in Malaise, but that'd be an awful lot of wasted acc.
At 20, six slots will get you to ~89% end and confuse, and by 30, 4x will get you to ~87% end and confuse, so eventually those two other slots for AA can be you know, Damage procs, or whatever. At 50, without going into Coercive Persuasion, you can get ~75% end and confuse with just three slots, and maybe add a third slot of something-else, if you really wanted (e.g., two damage procs and contagious confusion?)... except, knowing what I know about AA confuse % chance, I'd really rather have more confuse dur than that. |
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So, I'm contemplating AA again. And I'm curious, for the first time ever, to try and systematically set-bonus something out in a build. I don't normally do this.
So considering this Ice/Rad I have languishing. If I went:
3x Malaise, 3xPerplex in AA (4%)
3x Entropic Chaos in Chillblain, (2.75%)
3xSovereign Right, 3x Brilliant Leadership in Jack, (3.75%)
3x Kismet in Maneuvers (1.65%)
3x Harmonized Healing in Radiant Aura (1.65%)
3x Essence of Curare in Block of Ice, Choking cloud, EMP (4.95%)
That would leave me with.... 18.75% total bonus on confuse duration?
Is the secret that this is a separate +% to the base, rather than additive with ordinary enhancements?
I don't get it. Not that I don't get that global recharge, damage, or accuracy aren't a lot more important than confusion duration, but. Is this the kind of bonus people are shooting for, building in set bonuses?
Am I thinking about this all wrong? (Aside from going rather out of my way to get as much confuse duration bonus as I reasonably can?)
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