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If you have that much recovery, how much is the ancillary power really adding? Not much I assume since it's half the value of stamina. Why not, I dunno, drop THAT and take power sink? Even if you don't need the recovery, bottoming out enemies' endurance and drawing tons of aggro (you are a Tanker, yeah?) is an excellent tool to have.|
Originally Posted by Coldmed
i have a 3.76 recovery rate plus i have conserve power.i also have taunt..
i also have 88.15 % s/l resistance and 33& defense i "NEED" powersink why exactly???... |
And I think the other guy was thinking of Power Surge. I think he was also thinking this was the scrapper forum.
cp is the power i HAD to get to grab physical perfection..it wasnt cause i wanted to pick it. plus i didnt have slots to slot up f.a. so i grabbed cp and kept it one slotted
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its so obvious I was talking about power surge, sorry to have confused you so much. My comment was toward why people are saying Power Surge is teh suck. short of popping insps, the only way your going to cap all your damage resists (except toxic and psi) is to use power surge. why are people saying not to take this?|
Originally Posted by Coldmed
how does a pbaoe + end - end foe cap you in anything?...is there something im not getting?
as far as im concerned its a consume type power nothing more...is this wrong? and with grounded im already capped out on energy so theres nothing to improve..are you talking about powersurge?? the tier 9 power??. cause im talking powersink the +end power |
About Power sink, not to be confused with Power Surge (it hurts coldmed's brain) of course you take this on every build.
The most skippable power is Stamina. Energize+Power Sink+PP+possibly CP.
A tank can get Energize and Power Sink at level 26 so you don't even need stamiba while exemplaring.
While Power Surge only adds about 12% res remember that that more than doubles your effective res.
IMO if you must skip anything it would be Power Surge and Lightning Reflexes, but by being able to skip Stamina it's better to take everything. If you do take Combat Jumping and a lot of KB IOs you could skip Grounded.
A game is not supposed to be some kind of... place where people enjoy themselves!
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Originally Posted by Coldmed
cp is the power i HAD to get to grab physical perfection..it wasnt cause i wanted to pick it. plus i didnt have slots to slot up f.a. so i grabbed cp and kept it one slotted
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The regen in physical perfection is *that* important to you?
no but the regen/recovery wasto me..like i said..its just an + end power not needed if i have a 3.86 recov AND cp...i dont need it as a taunt tool since i have taunt.
Going through a build where i take out phsyical perfection and cp and put in powersink and l.r i see nothing to warrant picking it up i would only gain 1 % defense and 28% recharge but would LOSE .68 recov and 102 regen
so id go from 3.86 to 3.16 and 489 to 387...thats alot more to lose then just getting a + end power.
to me id rather go with a higher recovery so i dont need it at all...not to mention having cp with a defualt slot for whatever reason.
thats why im asking "WHY" is it so much the needed power some say it us..i really havent seen an answer yet besides "you really wanted regen?"
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You repeatedly mention losing the recovery in exchange for picking up powersink. While technically correct, I'm sure you can see why that prompts others to question your motives. |
Originally Posted by Coldmed
Going through a build where i take out phsyical perfection and cp and put in powersink and l.r i see nothing to warrant picking it up i would only gain 1 % defense and 28% recharge but would LOSE .68 recov and 102 regen
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Besides, lightning reflexes doesn't have an irrelevant effect on energize or the tanker's secondary, escpecially on a build that otherwise hasn't acquired significant sources of global recharge. So when you say something like...
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| so id go from 3.86 to 3.16 and 489 to 387...thats alot more to lose then just getting a + end power. |
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| thats why im asking "WHY" is it so much the needed power some say it us..i really havent seen an answer yet besides "you really wanted regen?" |
- It frees up power choices by ignoring stamina and now physical perfection due to endurance issues, which may lend itself to more survivability in other areas depending on powerchoices (tough/weave), more damage (fireball), or indirect boosts to multiple areas (hasten, lightning reflexes).
- On builds, not always at level 50 mind you, that place a premium on performance in area-effect-attack situations, effectively limitless endurance can be achieved while largely sacrificing typical endurance reduction slotting in favor of other options such as recharge, accuracy, procs, or secondary effects.
- Direct survivability increase when sufficient endurance is drained from enemies such that it inhibits their ability to attack or use any other abilities that depend on endurance, such as debuffing toggles like hurricane or chill of the night.
So yeah. "You really wanted regen?" is what I asked.*shrug*.
I'll note, though, that at 50 with the amount of set bonuses you typically mention when discussing a character, all that is rather irrelevant compared to preference.
you lost me when you said.. i can skip stamina..if thats your ONLY arguement no thanks
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Originally Posted by Coldmed
if thats your ONLY arguement
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how does a pbaoe + end - end foe cap you in anything?...is there something im not getting?
as far as im concerned its a consume type power nothing more...is this wrong?
and with grounded im already capped out on energy so theres nothing to improve..are you talking about powersurge?? the tier 9 power??.
cause im talking powersink the +end power