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That's great and all if you're willing to pay $10 a pop to transfer characters to Freedom or want to spend the time leveling new characters there, but the other fourteen servers (including the EU servers here) aren't doing so hot. Increased population on one server and decreased population on at least ten others isn't generally a good sign, regardless of how you want to look at it.|
Originally Posted by Warhamster
You hit the nail on the head sir, that is correct.
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I'm not debating whether Freedom RV populations are higher or lower than they were before I13, but I am stating that the general PvP populations on all the other servers are lower.
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I know for certain that the, on my home server of triumph, 6 very active very good pvpers quit. Now while it may not be alot at first glance, this is triumph, the total RV population is lucky to exceed 10.
I transfered to freedom, and I actually plan on quitting soon. Aion doesn't intrest me, nor does CO, i play H3 and H:CE more then this game sometimes, KotR online thing looks interesting tho.
I know pretty well and respect war as a pvper, but i find his view on the pvp population a little short sighted and shallow.
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Originally Posted by OPTICAL_ILLUSION
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They need to make Freedom, and whatever other high PvP populated server into "PvP servers" where all zones that border RI and Paragon become pvp/PvE zones. The "PvE servers" can get waves of NPCs for RPing purposes. If you dont get what im talking about, you can ask meh. oh yeah! and 3 free transfers for all.
As far as the original topic, Freedom RV zone population has been steadily rising compared to i12 ever since i14. Not i13 but i14... at least that from my observations constantly being in RV.
It's quite possible that you're right about the general population on all servers combined possibly being lower. As I said before, I have no way of measuring that. However this thread up to this point has been about the population of Freedom.
With that in mind as brutal as it is to say, as a Freedom Pvper I really don't care how the other servers are fairing for their PvP population and neither should you. Keep in mind that well over 95% of this games revenue comes from players that you would have to drag kicking and screaming into a PvP zone. They wont touch it with a 10 foot pole. After the epic change we saw to PvP in i13, it's pretty clear that the devs have their own direction for PvP that doesn't necessarily include keeping the PvP player in the loop. They will make changes and never worry. PvP could dry up completely and it wouldn't matter. In the grand scheme of things, they can do whatever they want and it wont hurt their bottom line.
When you look at the big picture, really look at it, there is no reason to not be selfish. Kick back and enjoy, it's the only thing you have control over.
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Originally Posted by macskull
That's great and all if you're willing to pay $10 a pop to transfer characters to Freedom or want to spend the time leveling new characters there, but the other fourteen servers (including the EU servers here) aren't doing so hot. Increased population on one server and decreased population on at least ten others isn't generally a good sign, regardless of how you want to look at it.
I'm not debating whether Freedom RV populations are higher or lower than they were before I13, but I am stating that the general PvP populations on all the other servers are lower. |
Im not really sure the Devs even know where they are going atm. Though not untouched, nothing ridiculously significant as i13 has been implemented. They nerfed some stuff and rebroke some other things, but I think they are about as lost as the average PvEer in RV.
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^ ^| Keep in mind that well over 95% of this games revenue comes from players that you would have to drag kicking and screaming into a PvP zone. They wont touch it with a 10 foot pole. In the grand scheme of things, the devs can do whatever they want to PvP and it wont hurt their bottom line. |
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I'd say it's likely they have a plan, it's just not important enough to push past the people that pay the bills, and the content they demand.
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Originally Posted by _Lith_
Im not really sure the Devs even know where they are going atm. Though not untouched, nothing ridiculously significant as i13 has been implemented. They nerfed some stuff and rebroke some other things, but I think they are about as lost as the average PvEer in RV.
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Yeah that's grand and all. The other servers however have no pvp population. |
Originally Posted by Warhamster
You hit the nail on the head sir, that is correct.
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Champion for example is pretty fucken dead.
If you're really into pvp, you'll get a ton of fun for your 9.99 fee. Don't get mad, get transferred.
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Originally Posted by Alpha_Zulu
Yeah that's grand and all. The other servers however have no pvp population.
Champion for example is pretty fucken dead. |
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Triumph was my home, and it had a amount of pvp that was just right. You had maybe 15 ppl on at any time, but out of the 15 maybe 9-10 were skilled or atleast competent so it was a good mix. I used to go to freedom to practice survival techniques, just off the shear numbers that always was present. You were guaranteed to get spiked often or atleast attempted spikes once you developed methods. |
Originally Posted by Alpha_Zulu
Yeah that's grand and all. The other servers however have no pvp population.
Champion for example is pretty fucken dead. |
Then i13 dropped, and alot the skilled ppl from the tiny server left, than later even the non skilled folk left. So those who were left was forced to go to a pvp populated server, unfortunately all the other server basically were facing the same thing, so we all wound up on freedom for good. I know this could not have been castles master plan, because it would have been alot simpler to make a pvp server and herd us all there for the slaughter. Instead of making us flee to freedom, but then again they couldn't tax us those awesome transfer fees then hmmm.
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
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Aion looks kinda sweet actually surprisingly so ep, idk yet i will sunday however because i'm in the beta, so i'll be there this week lol. Starwars looks sweet too.
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Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon
I know for certain that the, on my home server of triumph, 6 very active very good pvpers quit. Now while it may not be alot at first glance, this is triumph, the total RV population is lucky to exceed 10.
I transfered to freedom, and I actually plan on quitting soon. Aion doesn't intrest me, nor does CO, i play H3 and H:CE more then this game sometimes, KotR online thing looks interesting tho. |
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
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That's the same reason I use to love Victory PvP, it was always 15 people max and we all knew each other so keeping the zone balance was easy. Fights rarely end up base camping since we will just switch to keep it going until the zone die. I venture to Freedom when I wanted a massive zone orgy fights, now it's pretty dead. |
Originally Posted by Ravens_NA
Triumph was my home, and it had a amount of pvp that was just right. You had maybe 15 ppl on at any time...
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Same with Virtue, and Justice servers I use to love since the PvP size was pretty reasonable.
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Getting some feedback from other servers is good, thanks guys for posting the changes you've experienced.
By the way, how do I get my red badge of courage back? This new green badge is boring.
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I logged several accounts to promote your rep. I'm pro like that. Get shoed.
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Originally Posted by Warhamster
Getting some feedback from other servers is good, thanks guys for posting the changes you've experienced.
By the way, how do I get my red badge of courage back? This new green badge is boring. |
What were you thinking? I'm trying to maintain a reputation here.
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Originally Posted by Silit
I logged several accounts to promote your rep. I'm pro like that. Get shoed.
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lately we have had a full team each side in RV on Liberty... + a few add ons
That might not seem like a big deal to Freedom players but its been a nice turn out for us.
As for the other zones... not so much...
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded...
"The potato goes in the FRONT."
You hit the nail on the head sir, that is correct.